[opensuse-marketing] URGENT: openSUSE 11.4 Milestone 1 Announcement
Coolo wants to release the first of six milestones tomorrow. Who can write an announcement? Sorry for late notice, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Hello ;=) May i ask one question ? Hopping this is the good place . What's driving you to release a new version so often ? (not saying this is wrong, just trying to understand why) Generally : what are the goals of the future version (are strategy discussions over yet ?) For example is it to aim at masses or at specialized people, like developpers maybe ? Thanks ;) Fabrice Le Wednesday 01 September 2010 12:11:27, Andreas Jaeger a écrit :
Coolo wants to release the first of six milestones tomorrow. Who can write an announcement?
Sorry for late notice, Andreas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 01 September 2010 12:52:36 fabrice wrote:
Hello ;=) May i ask one question ? Hopping this is the good place .
What's driving you to release a new version so often ? (not saying this is
What do you mean? * every 8 months a new release? * every month a snapshot This is discussed on the opensuse-factory mailing list. This is basically a snapshot and we need regular snapshots for stabilizing the tree.
wrong, just trying to understand why) Generally : what are the goals of the future version (are strategy discussions over yet ?) For example is it to aim at masses or at specialized people, like developpers maybe ?
Strategy discussion is not over yet, there are no general goals for 11.4 yet. But still development is continuing... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Le Wednesday 01 September 2010 14:08:06, Andreas Jaeger a écrit :
What do you mean? * every 8 months a new release? * every month a snapshot
I meant 8 months a new release, i know that suse is not a rolling distribution. Is this kind of cycle mandatory to be up to date for the potentials users/customers ? Is a long term version in the oven ? Fabrice -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On 9/1/2010 8:23 AM, fabrice wrote:
Le Wednesday 01 September 2010 14:08:06, Andreas Jaeger a écrit :
What do you mean? * every 8 months a new release? * every month a snapshot
I meant 8 months a new release, i know that suse is not a rolling distribution. Is this kind of cycle mandatory to be up to date for the potentials users/customers ?
Is a long term version in the oven ?
Fabrice
If I recall correctly, the support cycle for released stable versions is 2 years. -Matt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 01 September 2010 14:23:42 fabrice wrote:
Le Wednesday 01 September 2010 14:08:06, Andreas Jaeger a écrit :
What do you mean? * every 8 months a new release? * every month a snapshot
I meant 8 months a new release, i know that suse is not a rolling distribution. Is this kind of cycle mandatory to be up to date for the potentials users/customers ?
We found it convenient to have a real fixed cycle. Fedora/Ubuntu have 6 months and considered too short while 12 months too long. You need to update the distribution regularly for new hardware support.
Is a long term version in the oven ?
That was proposed as part of one strategy proposal. There was some people that wanted to start a long term version but that was only in the planning phase. There were enough interest to have it but not enough interest to do it. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Wednesday 01 September 2010 14:25:28 Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Wednesday 01 September 2010 14:23:42 fabrice wrote:
Le Wednesday 01 September 2010 14:08:06, Andreas Jaeger a écrit :
What do you mean? * every 8 months a new release? * every month a snapshot
I meant 8 months a new release, i know that suse is not a rolling distribution. Is this kind of cycle mandatory to be up to date for the potentials users/customers ?
We found it convenient to have a real fixed cycle.
Fedora/Ubuntu have 6 months and considered too short while 12 months too long.
You need to update the distribution regularly for new hardware support.
Is a long term version in the oven ?
That was proposed as part of one strategy proposal. There was some people that wanted to start a long term version but that was only in the planning phase. There were enough interest to have it but not enough interest to do it.
AJ, if you didn't find anyone to do the work in this meta-discussion, I can hammer something out now. Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 01 September 2010 14:26:26 Will Stephenson wrote:
AJ, if you didn't find anyone to do the work in this meta-discussion, I can hammer something out now.
Will that would be great! Best you talk directly to Coolo. Feel free to send here a link to your draft for review. THANKS! Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Wednesday 01 September 2010 14:32:21 Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Wednesday 01 September 2010 14:26:26 Will Stephenson wrote:
AJ, if you didn't find anyone to do the work in this meta-discussion, I can hammer something out now.
Will that would be great! Best you talk directly to Coolo.
Feel free to send here a link to your draft for review.
I spoke to coolo and at length to mls, to have something for our readers to get their teeth into: http://news.opensuse.org/?p=4085&preview=true Will -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 01 September 2010 16:51:10 Will Stephenson wrote:
On Wednesday 01 September 2010 14:32:21 Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Wednesday 01 September 2010 14:26:26 Will Stephenson wrote:
AJ, if you didn't find anyone to do the work in this meta-discussion, I can hammer something out now.
Will that would be great! Best you talk directly to Coolo.
Feel free to send here a link to your draft for review.
I spoke to coolo and at length to mls, to have something for our readers to get their teeth into:
Not everybody has access to it, so let me quote it here, Thanks, Andreas openSUSE Releases First Development Milestone With Improved Package Management Performance, New XOrg, KDE and GNOME Versions openSUSE 11.4 Milestone 1 is available today, Thursday, September 2 for developers, testers and community members to test and participate in the development of openSUSE 11.4. M1 starts off openSUSE 11.4 development at a cracking pace with performance improvements in the package management network layer and version updates to major components. This milestone contains libzypp version 8.1, which has a new backend for http and ftp package downloads. MultiCurl replaces the old MediaAria backend, and brings support for zsync transfers and better Metalink download support. These will improve both repository refresh and package install and update performance. Metalink allows the multi-channel download of packages by downloading the individual blocks of a package in parallel from multiple servers. ZSync reduces the amount of data to download by only fetching the changed parts of a file instead of the whole file. This speeds up repository refreshes, since due to the way the repository data is structured, it is easy to locate the parts of the metadata that changed since the last update. The new Curl-based zypp backend also gives libzypp and therefore zypper and YaST better support for network proxies, by using the same proxy configuration as the rest of YaST instead of its own, and adds support for HTTP BASIC password- protected repositories. And as an added bonus, MultiCurl should eliminate slow and hanging package installations that occurred due to bugs in the old MediaAria backend. Other major components that have received updates from upstream projects for Milestone 1 include XOrg 1.9, KDE 4.5 and GNOME 2.32.0 Beta 1. Automated testing and brave openSUSE Factory testers have been validating early builds to make sure that Milestone 1 is suitable for others to test, so please download Milestone 1 and report bugs - the earlier a bug is reported in the development cycle, the more likely it is that it will be fixed on release day, March 10, 2011. The next milestone is scheduled for September 30. -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
I meant 8 months a new release, i know that suse is not a rolling distribution. Is this kind of cycle mandatory to be up to date for the potentials users/customers ?
We found it convenient to have a real fixed cycle.
Right ;)
Fedora/Ubuntu have 6 months and considered too short while 12 months too long.
You need to update the distribution regularly for new hardware support.
a must underline this is a VERY VERY VERY important goal/feature to reach users easily
Is a long term version in the oven ?
That was proposed as part of one strategy proposal. There was some people that wanted to start a long term version but that was only in the planning phase.
There were enough interest to have it but not enough interest to do it. i'm using opensuse since 9.3 and did not know about this, is this communicated enough ?
Andreas
I was asking because sometimes i'm tired of reinstalling softwares and system. Fabrice -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 01 September 2010 14:38:47 fabrice wrote:
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Is a long term version in the oven ?
That was proposed as part of one strategy proposal. There was some people that wanted to start a long term version but that was only in the planning phase.
There were enough interest to have it but not enough interest to do it.
i'm using opensuse since 9.3 and did not know about this, is this communicated enough ?
It was discussed on the project mailing list, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Le 01/09/2010 14:38, fabrice a écrit :
I was asking because sometimes i'm tired of reinstalling softwares and system.
notice upgrades can work. I recently upgraded a 9.2 to 11.3 with little problems (in fact the upgrade was good, simply the computer unable to really run 11.3, mostly by lack of ram (only 128Mo) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
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