A new structure might help. Here's a proposal. We can introduce a thing called "Free Media Program" and under this program we can distribute DVD and other medias to people who apply for them. Names of all "Free Media Person"(from now FMP) will be listed on OpenSUSE website (wiki) for general people to find out. Each "FMP" will be given a set of DVD medias. People finding the "FMP" for their locality will visit him/her and will ask for DVD medias. The "FMP" then will collect a DVD replacement from the person and will give him a "copy" of the DVD. This way individual need can be satisfied.
As for the events, DVD is not everything. Events require banners (atleast designs for such should be provided), batches and other swags (Like T-Shirts for main organizers sent in an Event Box), some amount of financial help and speakers. In case of Fedora, financial help is provided to a selected set of ambassadors, who represent a particular region on earth. The steering committee is formed of such people. "They don't have any country leader system for a particular country". As for OpenSUSE it now depends on us whether we will implement a country based system or a region based system. As far as speakers are concerned a list should be maintained.
Any ways I am always ready for any charge of maintaining DVDs for my region :)
Created this page : http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Free_Media_Persons to list Free Media Persons willing to provide help on circulating DVDs in respective localities.
Am Mittwoch, den 17.06.2009, 12:42 +0530 schrieb Abhradip mukherjee:
Created this page : http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Free_Media_Persons to list Free Media Persons willing to provide help on circulating DVDs in respective localities.
Its tradition in projects to make such decissions not alone!
br gnokii
On 6/17/2009 at 12:42 PM, in message
cd8d020a0906170012t5448b77cw5f2133453662722a@mail.gmail.com, Abhradip mukherjee abhradip@freedomnetwork.co.cc wrote:
Created this page : http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Free_Media_Persons to list Free Media Persons willing to provide help on circulating DVDs in respective localities.
May be it is better if you wait until Zonker who started the thread, comes up with a decision based on all of our inputs.
-- Sankar http://psankar.blogspot.com
May be it is better if you wait until Zonker who started the thread, comes up with a decision based on all of our inputs.
As far as Free Media Persons are concerned, any one can be a FMP. It should not be dependent upon permissions. If anyone has a DVD and wants to help out others by giving a copy, it should not be something for which he needs to take permission.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Sankar Ppsankar@novell.com wrote:
On 6/17/2009 at 12:42 PM, in message
cd8d020a0906170012t5448b77cw5f2133453662722a@mail.gmail.com, Abhradip mukherjee abhradip@freedomnetwork.co.cc wrote:
Created this page : http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Free_Media_Persons to list Free Media Persons willing to provide help on circulating DVDs in respective localities.
May be it is better if you wait until Zonker who started the thread, comes up with a decision based on all of our inputs.
It is always good if community takes an initiative instead of waiting for the project to do something. I am sure Zonker will not mind anything that is for the benefit of the community.
Cheers
-J
Am Mittwoch, den 17.06.2009, 13:40 +0530 schrieb Jigish Gohil:
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Sankar Ppsankar@novell.com wrote:
On 6/17/2009 at 12:42 PM, in message
cd8d020a0906170012t5448b77cw5f2133453662722a@mail.gmail.com, Abhradip mukherjee abhradip@freedomnetwork.co.cc wrote:
Created this page : http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Free_Media_Persons to list Free Media Persons willing to provide help on circulating DVDs in respective localities.
May be it is better if you wait until Zonker who started the thread, comes up with a decision based on all of our inputs.
It is always good if community takes an initiative instead of waiting for the project to do something. I am sure Zonker will not mind anything that is for the benefit of the community.
When there is an endless fruitless discussion maybe you are right. But with this decission? There is not written wat it is, its only a list. How should someone know for what it is?
br gnokii
Cheers
-J
ooh in my country I know this guy too and for my region too ;)
It would have been better if you have provided some link to the page where it is stated and your friend is listed as country ambassador. Perhaps such page do not exist.
It is our task to try out was in the boxes should be and is to design ;) Look at the url after my last words in this mail :D
and
ATM in my country exist a speech "Read first then act!"
Unnecessary harsh words.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:53 PM, S.Kemterbuergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de wrote:
When there is an endless fruitless discussion maybe you are right. But with this decission? There is not written wat it is, its only a list. How should someone know for what it is?
Well, as it's wiki, you can improvise it. Anyways, I have made the changes.
P.S. Don't act over smart and reply just for replying. Opposing efforts by others and behaving harsh will not prove you smarter.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Abhradip mukherjeeabhradip@freedomnetwork.co.cc wrote:
P.S. Don't act over smart and reply just for replying. Opposing efforts by others and behaving harsh will not prove you smarter.
Everybody, calm down please. I'm not pointing fingers at any particular person here - but remember that as ambassadors you're the "front line" to the project. If the project ambassadors are crabby with each other, what does that say about the project as a whole?
Best,
Zonker
Am Mittwoch, den 17.06.2009, 07:59 -0400 schrieb Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier:
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Abhradip mukherjeeabhradip@freedomnetwork.co.cc wrote:
P.S. Don't act over smart and reply just for replying. Opposing efforts by others and behaving harsh will not prove you smarter.
Everybody, calm down please. I'm not pointing fingers at any particular person here - but remember that as ambassadors you're the "front line" to the project. If the project ambassadors are crabby with each other, what does that say about the project as a whole?
yeah, Im sorry for my harsh words
br gnokii
Best,
Zonker
On 06/17/2009 04:10 AM, Jigish Gohil wrote:
It is always good if community takes an initiative instead of waiting for the project to do something. I am sure Zonker will not mind anything that is for the benefit of the community.
Initiative is excellent, as long as we're moving forward as a group and not at cross purposes.
I don't need to personally approve every initiative, and -- in fact -- would prefer not to. :-) But, I do hope we'll have consensus among the people doing the ambassador work and make sure that we have some agreement.
I'm really happy to see so much enthusiasm right off the bat. We have some work to do to get our systems in place and get good at coordinating with one another, but I'm sure that will happen.
Thanks all!
Best,
Zonker
Hello,
Am Mittwoch, den 17.06.2009, 12:25 +0530 schrieb Abhradip Mukherjee:
A new structure might help. Here's a proposal. We can introduce a thing called "Free Media Program" and under this program we can distribute DVD and other medias to people who apply for them. Names of all "Free Media Person"(from now FMP) will be listed on OpenSUSE website (wiki) for general people to find out. Each "FMP" will be given a set of DVD medias. People finding the "FMP" for their locality will visit him/her and will ask for DVD medias. The "FMP" then will collect a DVD replacement from the person and will give him a "copy" of the DVD. This way individual need can be satisfied.
As for the events, DVD is not everything. Events require banners (atleast designs for such should be provided), batches and other swags (Like T-Shirts for main organizers sent in an Event Box),
It is our task to try out was in the boxes should be and is to design ;) Look at the url after my last words in this mail :D
some amount of financial help and speakers. In case of Fedora, financial help is provided to a selected set of ambassadors, who represent a particular region on earth.
The difference between RedHat and Novell, they sponsor a project is RedHat has since his founding earned money with open source - Novell not. Most people from Novell think why we spent money for linux we can have it for free. When you look in the evolution of fedora and SUSE-Linux you can see this. Every decision for give the community more rights an make it easier for the community to engage on the devlopment and distribution of suse, was a lot time after RedHat/fedora ;)
I had a little discussion with zonker about this at last time. He spoke to me he think its better to give this few money was he have for the contrib conf. He has right. Maybe in next time has a guy from Novell an inspiration and the suse-project is given an budget manager (with more money) to ;)
The steering committee is formed of such people.
yeah I know this people, I know Max and Joerg ;)
"They don't have any country leader system for a particular country".
ooh in my country I know this guy too and for my region too ;)
As for OpenSUSE it now depends on us whether we will implement a country based system or a region based system.
Yes we had a little bit discussion about this and no decision how we should handle this is made.
As far as speakers are concerned a list should be maintained.
Any ways I am always ready for any charge of maintaining DVDs for my region :)
ATM in my country exist a speech "Read first then act!"
http://en.opensuse.org/Ambassador/Brainstorming
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