Over the weekend, I met the president of a LUG in Michigan while I was in Indiana. He expressed a past interest in getting someone to come to one of his LUG meeting to talk about openSUSE. Upon closer examination, I realized it wasn't financially feasible to make a trip to Michigan for an evening meeting (thus also having to stay overnight) as his LUG has only about 15 members. And I started to think about who might be closer that can go to that specific city. (Ann Arbor)
That size is typical for a large number of LUGs out there.
I suggested perhaps we can do an online webinar of some sort, and he liked that idea.
The more I thought about this since then, the more I think we should organize a formal webinar program here at openSUSE. We can use these webinars to give focused presentations to LUG groups. We can also meet with more than one LUG group at a time, thus covering greater distances in the same amount of time.
We could, and should, also use the same concept and service to create openSUSE tutorials and other online presentation events that appeal to people beyond just LUGs. For example, if we launch a new product/service/update, we can host a Q&A webinar for journalists.
A nice online OBS webinar tutorial also comes to mind.
There's plenty of commercial software out there that we can use and not have to worry about hosting the software. Some of us have already done meetings via Skype to LUGs. But a) some people have an objection to using non-free software for webinars, and b) those services can cost money, although they provide a hosting service, thus taking away our own need to provide infrastructure.
I think we should actively look at viable open source options and address the feasbility of hosting it within our own infrastructure. And then begin a formal scheduling strategy of webinar events to promote as well as reaching out to LUGs around the world to invite them to request a "virtual" guest speaker at their next meetings.
These meetings/tutorials offer the benefit of live interaction with the community as well as a way to archive our sessions for those who are not able to attend live.
Thoughts, folks?
Bryen M Yunashko openSUSE Project
"Hangouts" on Google+ are great and have the added benefit of being recordable so those who were unable to attend live can still view the entire webinar. An added plus would be the obvious marketing integration and the fact that, let's be honest.. most of the G+ userbase is fairly tech friendly. I know some concerns have been raised about the new privacy policy across Google properties but as you can see from this email, I have learned to accept them. :p
As for F/OSS software I regretfully have no input to offer. I do think the idea in general has a great deal of potential and I applaud Bryen for his creativity :)
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Bryen M Yunashko suserocks@bryen.com wrote:
Over the weekend, I met the president of a LUG in Michigan while I was in Indiana. He expressed a past interest in getting someone to come to one of his LUG meeting to talk about openSUSE. Upon closer examination, I realized it wasn't financially feasible to make a trip to Michigan for an evening meeting (thus also having to stay overnight) as his LUG has only about 15 members. And I started to think about who might be closer that can go to that specific city. (Ann Arbor)
That size is typical for a large number of LUGs out there.
I suggested perhaps we can do an online webinar of some sort, and he liked that idea.
The more I thought about this since then, the more I think we should organize a formal webinar program here at openSUSE. We can use these webinars to give focused presentations to LUG groups. We can also meet with more than one LUG group at a time, thus covering greater distances in the same amount of time.
We could, and should, also use the same concept and service to create openSUSE tutorials and other online presentation events that appeal to people beyond just LUGs. For example, if we launch a new product/service/update, we can host a Q&A webinar for journalists.
A nice online OBS webinar tutorial also comes to mind.
There's plenty of commercial software out there that we can use and not have to worry about hosting the software. Some of us have already done meetings via Skype to LUGs. But a) some people have an objection to using non-free software for webinars, and b) those services can cost money, although they provide a hosting service, thus taking away our own need to provide infrastructure.
I think we should actively look at viable open source options and address the feasbility of hosting it within our own infrastructure. And then begin a formal scheduling strategy of webinar events to promote as well as reaching out to LUGs around the world to invite them to request a "virtual" guest speaker at their next meetings.
These meetings/tutorials offer the benefit of live interaction with the community as well as a way to archive our sessions for those who are not able to attend live.
Thoughts, folks?
Bryen M Yunashko openSUSE Project
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On Sun, 2012-04-15 at 17:51 -0500, Trenton Ray wrote:
"Hangouts" on Google+ are great and have the added benefit of being recordable so those who were unable to attend live can still view the entire webinar. An added plus would be the obvious marketing integration and the fact that, let's be honest.. most of the G+ userbase is fairly tech friendly. I know some concerns have been raised about the new privacy policy across Google properties but as you can see from this email, I have learned to accept them. :p
There are a number of purists out there that won't use Google, because it is not free and open software. Seems this number is growing smaller lately but there's still a lot out there, and we as openSUSE Project advocate a free and open source software world. So it would be a bit of an anathema for us to use Google's proprietary software to promote openSUSE.
My own use of Google is severely limited due to Google's bungling of their services merge last year. And I'm not the only one out there who hasn't been able to Google services because Google isn't responding to these technical complaints. I can't even access my G+ account.
Let's pick something where *we* have full control over the service. Not some big behemoth company that doesn't have time to answer the little guys. :-)
As for F/OSS software I regretfully have no input to offer. I do think the idea in general has a great deal of potential and I applaud Bryen for his creativity :)
A quick search provides a list of open source software offerings at http://elearnqueen.blogspot.com/2011/05/opensource-webinar-software-updated....
We just need someone who either has experience with them or has time to evaluate and make recommendations. Then we can ask our infrastructure folks to give this proposal some consideration.
Bryen
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Bryen M Yunashko suserocks@bryen.com wrote:
Over the weekend, I met the president of a LUG in Michigan while I was in Indiana. He expressed a past interest in getting someone to come to one of his LUG meeting to talk about openSUSE. Upon closer examination, I realized it wasn't financially feasible to make a trip to Michigan for an evening meeting (thus also having to stay overnight) as his LUG has only about 15 members. And I started to think about who might be closer that can go to that specific city. (Ann Arbor)
That size is typical for a large number of LUGs out there.
I suggested perhaps we can do an online webinar of some sort, and he liked that idea.
The more I thought about this since then, the more I think we should organize a formal webinar program here at openSUSE. We can use these webinars to give focused presentations to LUG groups. We can also meet with more than one LUG group at a time, thus covering greater distances in the same amount of time.
We could, and should, also use the same concept and service to create openSUSE tutorials and other online presentation events that appeal to people beyond just LUGs. For example, if we launch a new product/service/update, we can host a Q&A webinar for journalists.
A nice online OBS webinar tutorial also comes to mind.
There's plenty of commercial software out there that we can use and not have to worry about hosting the software. Some of us have already done meetings via Skype to LUGs. But a) some people have an objection to using non-free software for webinars, and b) those services can cost money, although they provide a hosting service, thus taking away our own need to provide infrastructure.
I think we should actively look at viable open source options and address the feasbility of hosting it within our own infrastructure. And then begin a formal scheduling strategy of webinar events to promote as well as reaching out to LUGs around the world to invite them to request a "virtual" guest speaker at their next meetings.
These meetings/tutorials offer the benefit of live interaction with the community as well as a way to archive our sessions for those who are not able to attend live.
Thoughts, folks?
Bryen M Yunashko openSUSE Project
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On Sun, 2012-04-15 at 17:08 -0500, Bryen M Yunashko wrote:
Over the weekend, I met the president of a LUG in Michigan while I was in Indiana. He expressed a past interest in getting someone to come to one of his LUG meeting to talk about openSUSE. Upon closer examination, I realized it wasn't financially feasible to make a trip to Michigan for an evening meeting (thus also having to stay overnight) as his LUG has only about 15 members. And I started to think about who might be closer that can go to that specific city. (Ann Arbor)
That size is typical for a large number of LUGs out there.
I suggested perhaps we can do an online webinar of some sort, and he liked that idea.
The more I thought about this since then, the more I think we should organize a formal webinar program here at openSUSE. We can use these webinars to give focused presentations to LUG groups. We can also meet with more than one LUG group at a time, thus covering greater distances in the same amount of time.
We could, and should, also use the same concept and service to create openSUSE tutorials and other online presentation events that appeal to people beyond just LUGs. For example, if we launch a new product/service/update, we can host a Q&A webinar for journalists.
A nice online OBS webinar tutorial also comes to mind.
There's plenty of commercial software out there that we can use and not have to worry about hosting the software. Some of us have already done meetings via Skype to LUGs. But a) some people have an objection to using non-free software for webinars, and b) those services can cost money, although they provide a hosting service, thus taking away our own need to provide infrastructure.
I think we should actively look at viable open source options and address the feasbility of hosting it within our own infrastructure. And then begin a formal scheduling strategy of webinar events to promote as well as reaching out to LUGs around the world to invite them to request a "virtual" guest speaker at their next meetings.
These meetings/tutorials offer the benefit of live interaction with the community as well as a way to archive our sessions for those who are not able to attend live.
Thoughts, folks?
Bryen M Yunashko openSUSE Project
Kablink had a conferencing technology. I wonder though if it was discontinued since I couldn't find it when I was looking for it.
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 10:02:44 -0700 Roger Luedecke roger.luedecke@gmail.com wrote:
Kablink had a conferencing technology. I wonder though if it was discontinued since I couldn't find it when I was looking for it.
I have short experience as user of Kablink, which makes me skeptic about applicability this days. Interface is somewhat 1995, video was not smooth even with very small picture, audio was missing.
On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 19:43 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 10:02:44 -0700 Roger Luedecke roger.luedecke@gmail.com wrote:
Kablink had a conferencing technology. I wonder though if it was discontinued since I couldn't find it when I was looking for it.
I have short experience as user of Kablink, which makes me skeptic about applicability this days. Interface is somewhat 1995, video was not smooth even with very small picture, audio was missing.
-- Regards, Rajko
In any event, it looks like the video conferencing part has vanished. So that would be a non-option. Maybe we should ask the general list about an option that is FOSS. In fact I'll forward this.
Dear list, we are looking for a way to video presentations or video conferencing. In particular, we are looking for an open source implementation.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Roger Luedecke roger.luedecke@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 19:43 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 10:02:44 -0700 Roger Luedecke roger.luedecke@gmail.com wrote:
Kablink had a conferencing technology. I wonder though if it was discontinued since I couldn't find it when I was looking for it.
I have short experience as user of Kablink, which makes me skeptic about applicability this days. Interface is somewhat 1995, video was not smooth even with very small picture, audio was missing.
-- Regards, Rajko
In any event, it looks like the video conferencing part has vanished. So that would be a non-option. Maybe we should ask the general list about an option that is FOSS. In fact I'll forward this.
Dear list, we are looking for a way to video presentations or video conferencing. In particular, we are looking for an open source implementation.
Hangout is a nice way or skype ( but its a bad implementation and needs several workarounds ) . Ekiga (http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Main_Page) is an alternative but I have not tried it out and am willing to do so. I like the idea, even if we have one each, It will be awesome :D. Damn, we will have 1000 articles
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