[opensuse-marketing] closing old facebook pages
Heya all, I did a google search for our facebook pages. Google said that these are the ones we currently have: https://www.facebook.com/pages/openSUSE/45393742283; product/service with 2600 likes http://www.facebook.com/pages/openSUSE/107715102589260; Interest with 5200 likes http://www.facebook.com/OpenSUSECentral; community page with 5280 likes http://www.facebook.com/groups/opensuseproject/; group page with 5900 members I do not know who owns the first one, but I think it should go. I see Bryen making frequent posts, maybe he can make that happen? We should then try and let people know that the other pages are the ones they should go to. In that regard, the second one, despite the 5200 likes, should imho go too. Again I do not know who 'owns' it but I see Stuart making frequent posts, could you do this, Stuart? Then we need to get you and byren added to the ones left: the community page and the facebook group. These two are the most active so I think it makes most sense to focus on them. And obviously I'd rather see the OpenSUSECentral stay as it has a much prettier URL. I will try to get OpenSUSECentral renamed to openSUSE. There is an individual with that name, let's see if we can get it. If not, let's at least try to rename OpenSUSECentral to openSUSECentral. Gertjan is one of the masters of the OpenSUSECentral page. Gertjan, could you give me and SatManUK (stuart tanner, http://www.facebook.com/georgianpropertiesuk) access too? Stuart offered to be our social media master for the openSUSE 12.1 release so he has things to post to the page and I just like to be in control :D Comments, suggestions? Please, if you know who can change anything on the first two pages, let me know! If we can't remove them we can at least put a notice and a link there to our 'big' pages... Cheers, Jos
On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 18:29 -0200, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
Heya all,
I did a google search for our facebook pages. Google said that these are the ones we currently have:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/openSUSE/45393742283; product/service with 2600 likes http://www.facebook.com/pages/openSUSE/107715102589260; Interest with 5200 likes http://www.facebook.com/OpenSUSECentral; community page with 5280 likes http://www.facebook.com/groups/opensuseproject/; group page with 5900 members
I do not know who owns the first one, but I think it should go. I see Bryen making frequent posts, maybe he can make that happen? We should then try and let people know that the other pages are the ones they should go to.
This was something I was thinking about yesterday the same is repeated across VKontakte.ru also there are dozens of little groups and few well attended ones but we really only need one.
In that regard, the second one, despite the 5200 likes, should imho go too. Again I do not know who 'owns' it but I see Stuart making frequent posts, could you do this, Stuart? Then we need to get you and byren added to the ones left: the community page and the facebook group.
It hasn't got a name so I will have to see who the administrator is and contact them and get them to move everybody over to the central group.
These two are the most active so I think it makes most sense to focus on them. And obviously I'd rather see the OpenSUSECentral stay as it has a much prettier URL. I will try to get OpenSUSECentral renamed to openSUSE. There is an individual with that name, let's see if we can get it. If not, let's at least try to rename OpenSUSECentral to openSUSECentral.
I don't know about groups or pages I really don't think its possible to rename them under facebook rules, once the name is created your stuck with it. It would be better to try and name one of the top two if you want a customised name and merge people that way?
Gertjan is one of the masters of the OpenSUSECentral page. Gertjan, could you give me and SatManUK (stuart tanner, http://www.facebook.com/georgianpropertiesuk) access too? Stuart offered to be our social media master for the openSUSE 12.1 release so he has things to post to the page and I just like to be in control :D
Like I said names cannot be changed, but one of the groups/pages with no name can be used. Don't know about capitalisation if they can be changed but i suspect nothing can be changed but lets see.
Comments, suggestions? Please, if you know who can change anything on the first two pages, let me know! If we can't remove them we can at least put a notice and a link there to our 'big' pages...
Their should be an admin listed, I will mail them and see what they say.
Cheers, Jos
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On Friday, October 28, 2011 04:19:27 PM Stuart Tanner wrote:
On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 18:29 -0200, Jos Poortvliet wrote: ... This was something I was thinking about yesterday the same is repeated across VKontakte.ru also there are dozens of little groups and few well attended ones but we really only need one.
When thinking to centralize groups with openSUSE in the name give a thought that: * Facebook groups have relatively small information capacity. Centralization has a point to certain extent. * Many groups are not using English. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 20:00 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:
On Friday, October 28, 2011 04:19:27 PM Stuart Tanner wrote:
On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 18:29 -0200, Jos Poortvliet wrote: ... This was something I was thinking about yesterday the same is repeated across VKontakte.ru also there are dozens of little groups and few well attended ones but we really only need one.
When thinking to centralize groups with openSUSE in the name give a thought that: * Facebook groups have relatively small information capacity. Centralization has a point to certain extent. * Many groups are not using English.
Of course nobody was talking about for example closing opensuse-polska or any other language variation, just if we have multiple general English language groups or even if there were 10 Polish groups as an example wouldn't it make more sense to bring each localisation into one group - if there are specialist beyond that that's fine they have a purpose such as opensuse-poland-kde or something along those lines. -- Kind Regards Stuart Tanner Director Bolton Linux 24 Vincent Street Heaton Bolton BL1 4SA Tel: 44-(0)1204-410474 Mob: 44-(0)7868-028028 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday, October 29, 2011 04:04:32 AM Stuart Tanner wrote: ...
Of course nobody was talking about for example closing opensuse-polska or any other language variation, just if we have multiple general English language groups or even if there were 10 Polish groups as an example wouldn't it make more sense to bring each localisation into one group - if there are specialist beyond that that's fine they have a purpose such as opensuse-poland-kde or something along those lines.
Right, but still information capacity is not that high. One group for the whole world will have so many posts that your post will disappear from the wall very fast and you will be unable to see answers. Maybe that is how Facebook works, like endless string of not connected events, but do we really want that? Besides, we can't actually control how that works unless we scan Facebook regularly and collect pages that we deem not right as "in need to contact owner", before they can be marked as inappropriate. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner@opensuse.org
Le 29/10/2011 17:19, Rajko M. a écrit :
One group for the whole world will have so many posts that your post will disappear from the wall very fast
or you simply keep for yourself the write right, and use the page only for infos jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgxog7_clip-l-ombre-et-la-lumiere-3-bad-pig... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGgv_ZFtV14 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday, October 28, 2011 10:29:10 PM Jos Poortvliet wrote:
Heya all,
I did a google search for our facebook pages. Google said that these are the ones we currently have:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/openSUSE/45393742283; product/service with 2600 likes http://www.facebook.com/pages/openSUSE/107715102589260; Interest with 5200 likes http://www.facebook.com/OpenSUSECentral; community page with 5280 likes http://www.facebook.com/groups/opensuseproject/; group page with 5900 members
I do not know who owns the first one, but I think it should go. I see
Here's the list that contains all the information I collected: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Social_media_contacts
Bryen making frequent posts, maybe he can make that happen? We should then try and let people know that the other pages are the ones they should go to.
There are 6 admins - including Bryen and myself. I didn't know it was not documented on the wiki page, so just did it.
In that regard, the second one, despite the 5200 likes, should imho go too. Again I do not know who 'owns' it but I see Stuart making frequent posts, could you do this, Stuart? Then we need to get you and byren added to the ones left: the community page and the facebook group.
These two are the most active so I think it makes most sense to focus on them. And obviously I'd rather see the OpenSUSECentral stay as it has a much prettier URL. I will try to get OpenSUSECentral renamed to openSUSE. There is an individual with that name, let's see if we can get it. If not, let's at least try to rename OpenSUSECentral to openSUSECentral.
Gertjan is one of the masters of the OpenSUSECentral page. Gertjan, could you give me and SatManUK (stuart tanner, http://www.facebook.com/georgianpropertiesuk) access too? Stuart offered to be our social media master for the openSUSE 12.1 release so he has things to post to the page and I just like to be in control :D
Jos, Stuart offered to work Facebook and one russion team - but not all of Social media AFAIR.
Comments, suggestions? Please, if you know who can change anything on the first two pages, let me know! If we can't remove them we can at least put a notice and a link there to our 'big' pages...
Consolidation is good. The question is for me, is how to do it best - and whether it makes sense t ohave both a page and a group or not. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner@opensuse.org
On 29.10.2011 Andreas wrote:
On Friday, October 28, 2011 10:29:10 PM Jos Poortvliet wrote:
Heya all,
I did a google search for our facebook pages. Google said that these are the ones we currently have:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/openSUSE/45393742283; product/service with 2600 likes http://www.facebook.com/pages/openSUSE/107715102589260; Interest with 5200 likes http://www.facebook.com/OpenSUSECentral; community page with 5280 likes http://www.facebook.com/groups/opensuseproject/; group page with 5900 members
I do not know who owns the first one, but I think it should go. I see
Here's the list that contains all the information I collected: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Social_media_contacts
I know, I added & changed things also based on the pages I found which were not (yet) mentioned there :D
Bryen making frequent posts, maybe he can make that happen? We should then try and let people know that the other pages are the ones they should go to.
There are 6 admins - including Bryen and myself. I didn't know it was not documented on the wiki page, so just did it.
Aah, ok. Any chance we can close that page & send a message to ppl it's closed, or just put a big warning saying "this page is closed, the official openSUSE facebook page is HERE (link)"?
In that regard, the second one, despite the 5200 likes, should imho go too. Again I do not know who 'owns' it but I see Stuart making frequent posts, could you do this, Stuart? Then we need to get you and byren added to the ones left: the community page and the facebook group.
These two are the most active so I think it makes most sense to focus on them. And obviously I'd rather see the OpenSUSECentral stay as it has a much prettier URL. I will try to get OpenSUSECentral renamed to openSUSE. There is an individual with that name, let's see if we can get it. If not, let's at least try to rename OpenSUSECentral to openSUSECentral.
Gertjan is one of the masters of the OpenSUSECentral page. Gertjan, could you give me and SatManUK (stuart tanner, http://www.facebook.com/georgianpropertiesuk) access too? Stuart offered to be our social media master for the openSUSE 12.1 release so he has things to post to the page and I just like to be in control :D
Jos, Stuart offered to work Facebook and one russion team - but not all of Social media AFAIR.
Ow, sorry stuart, for trying to put more work on your shoulders :D
Comments, suggestions? Please, if you know who can change anything on the first two pages, let me know! If we can't remove them we can at least put a notice and a link there to our 'big' pages...
Consolidation is good. The question is for me, is how to do it best - and whether it makes sense t ohave both a page and a group or not.
We now have 5 or 6 pages. 3 should obviously go. If we manage that we've got a huge improvement. Let's then keep the two biggest pages (one group, one 'interest page') open. The group has seen a lot of work by chuck to see it alive and is the biggest we have. The page has the nicest link (openSUSECentral) so we should try to keep that one too imho.
Andreas
On Monday, October 31, 2011 07:15:37 PM Jos Poortvliet wrote:
[...] We now have 5 or 6 pages. 3 should obviously go. If we manage that we've got a huge improvement. Let's then keep the two biggest pages (one group, one 'interest page') open. The group has seen a lot of work by chuck to see it alive and is the biggest we have. The page has the nicest link (openSUSECentral) so we should try to keep that one too imho.
Jos, let's find out the owners of those new pages first, check that those are adminstrated fine and have a fall-back (so not a single person) - and then remove the others. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.com> wrote:
On Monday, October 31, 2011 07:15:37 PM Jos Poortvliet wrote:
[...] We now have 5 or 6 pages. 3 should obviously go. If we manage that we've got a huge improvement. Let's then keep the two biggest pages (one group, one 'interest page') open. The group has seen a lot of work by chuck to see it alive and is the biggest we have. The page has the nicest link (openSUSECentral) so we should try to keep that one too imho.
Jos,
let's find out the owners of those new pages first, check that those are adminstrated fine and have a fall-back (so not a single person) - and then remove the others.
oS central is VERY well maintained, I know the owners. . You and terrorpup are admins of the group.So we can close the others, really... :D
Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
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On Monday, November 07, 2011 18:13:20 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.com> wrote:
On Monday, October 31, 2011 07:15:37 PM Jos Poortvliet wrote:
[...] We now have 5 or 6 pages. 3 should obviously go. If we manage that we've got a huge improvement. Let's then keep the two biggest pages (one group, one 'interest page') open. The group has seen a lot of work by chuck to see it alive and is the biggest we have. The page has the nicest link (openSUSECentral) so we should try to keep that one too imho.
Jos,
let's find out the owners of those new pages first, check that those are adminstrated fine and have a fall-back (so not a single person) - and then remove the others.
oS central is VERY well maintained, I know the owners. . You and terrorpup are admins of the group.So we can close the others, really... :D
So, please update the wiki page mentioning the owners ;) - and could you rename it to openSUSE, please? oS central is indeed well maintained, I've made the openSUSE page read- only and pointed to os central, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday, November 08, 2011 09:31:57 Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Monday, November 07, 2011 18:13:20 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.com> wrote:
On Monday, October 31, 2011 07:15:37 PM Jos Poortvliet wrote:
[...] We now have 5 or 6 pages. 3 should obviously go. If we manage that we've got a huge improvement. Let's then keep the two biggest pages (one group, one 'interest page') open. The group has seen a lot of work by chuck to see it alive and is the biggest we have. The page has the nicest link (openSUSECentral) so we should try to keep that one too imho.
Jos,
let's find out the owners of those new pages first, check that those are adminstrated fine and have a fall-back (so not a single person) - and then remove the others.
oS central is VERY well maintained, I know the owners. . You and terrorpup are admins of the group.So we can close the others, really... :D
So, please update the wiki page mentioning the owners ;) - and could you rename it to openSUSE, please?
Ok, added the names. The name can not be changed: "Once you have claimed a username by clicking the Confirm button, it is not possible to edit it, or to transfer your username to a different account" However, there is a username infringement form. Which is why I cc Alan Clark as he's the dude in openSUSE with most legal knowledge... Alan, can you or a lawyer fill in the form with something like: See our trademark list: http://www.novell.com/company/legal/trademarks/tmlist.html According to the Novell trademark guidelines once can only use the openSUSE trademark when permission has been given: http://www.novell.com/company/legal/trademarks/guidelines.html The openSUSE trademark guidelines state that permission has to be asked from the openSUSE board at board@opensuse.org: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Trademark_guidelines This has not been done. We'd like this user to refrain from using the openSUSE trademark and for the trademark to be transferred to the openSUSE community site facebook.com/OpenSUSECentral to become facebook.com/openSUSE Thank you very much, XXX (I was about to fill in in but on the bottom of the site it is saying: "By ticking this box you are indicating that you are the owner of this trademark (or a person legally authorised to act on behalf of the owner) and that the username described above infringes your rights." and I'm not sure if I can do that)
oS central is indeed well maintained, I've made the openSUSE page read- only and pointed to os central,
Awesome! Any idea about the other pages?
Andreas
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