[opensuse-marketing] what weekly news do we want
As I see this subject is hot, I think it's time to open a thread, not to hijack the task one, so, feel free to give your advice here (I will give mine later) thanks a lot, it's a pleasure to see the marketting team at work again :-) Michal said: Maybe monthly news would be easier? Workload can be spread through whole month and just summarize what happened/is going on... I understand, that weekly newsletter is a lot of work and has tight deadlines, but easy way to relax it could be prolonging the cycle. Monthly? Bi-weekly? Just throwing in some ideas ;-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner@opensuse.org
Hi all! Thumbs up for the monthly newsletter. Over 30 days I guess more people can contribute & the quality of content will be better. Weekly might be too tight especially for guys in full-time jobs. Cheers! Ish Sookun openSUSE Advocate www.openSUSE.org - Geek by birth ... Linux by choice. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |H|A|C|K|L|O|G|.|i|n| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:12 PM, jdd <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:
As I see this subject is hot, I think it's time to open a thread, not to hijack the task one, so, feel free to give your advice here (I will give mine later)
thanks a lot, it's a pleasure to see the marketting team at work again :-)
Michal said:
Maybe monthly news would be easier? Workload can be spread through whole month and just summarize what happened/is going on... I understand, that weekly newsletter is a lot of work and has tight deadlines, but easy way to relax it could be prolonging the cycle. Monthly? Bi-weekly? Just throwing in some ideas ;-)
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2013/12/11 jdd <jdd@dodin.org>:
As I see this subject is hot, I think it's time to open a thread, not to hijack the task one, so, feel free to give your advice here (I will give mine later)
thanks a lot, it's a pleasure to see the marketting team at work again :-)
Michal said:
Maybe monthly news would be easier? Workload can be spread through whole month and just summarize what happened/is going on... I understand, that weekly newsletter is a lot of work and has tight deadlines, but easy way to relax it could be prolonging the cycle. Monthly? Bi-weekly? Just throwing in some ideas ;-)
jdd -- http://www.dodin.org
+1 for monthly.
From my point of view, translate it to Greek, it's hard because we lack translators. Not happy to say it but I did 99% of the translation for 13.1 (only 1-2 people did review).
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Hey, On 11.12.2013 11:12, jdd wrote:
As I see this subject is hot, I think it's time to open a thread, not to hijack the task one, so, feel free to give your advice here (I will give mine later)
Another Idea would be to employ the help of tools like paper.li which automate all of this... Henne -- Henne Vogelsang http://www.opensuse.org Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner@opensuse.org
Le 11/12/2013 11:12, jdd a écrit :
As I see this subject is hot, I think it's time to open a thread, not to hijack the task one, so, feel free to give your advice here (I will give mine later)
some years ago :-), I installed etherpad-lite for the marketting team use on one of my servers. It still works, simply do not start at boot and is not protected in any way. A similar install on openSUSE infrastructure should be nice (of course protected by our usual passwd?) - but for now I wrote some ideas on it: http://dodin.org:9001/p/weeklynews feel free to add what you want where you want - it's only draft! I have nothing against drive.google.com else than being hit by any change google wants to do. same for paper.li that first ask to know all my facebook contacts, what I certainly won't accept. Notice that I'm not against a monthly magazine, but this needs IMHO a much larger team that what we have now I vote for a weekly news starting January 1st as small as necessary to be manageable KISS (Keep It Simple and stupid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle) jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner@opensuse.org
2013/12/11 jdd <jdd@dodin.org>:
Le 11/12/2013 11:12, jdd a écrit :
As I see this subject is hot, I think it's time to open a thread, not to hijack the task one, so, feel free to give your advice here (I will give mine later)
some years ago :-), I installed etherpad-lite for the marketting team use on one of my servers. It still works, simply do not start at boot and is not protected in any way.
A similar install on openSUSE infrastructure should be nice (of course protected by our usual passwd?) - but for now I wrote some ideas on it:
http://dodin.org:9001/p/weeklynews
feel free to add what you want where you want - it's only draft!
I have nothing against drive.google.com else than being hit by any change google wants to do.
same for paper.li that first ask to know all my facebook contacts, what I certainly won't accept.
Notice that I'm not against a monthly magazine, but this needs IMHO a much larger team that what we have now
I vote for a weekly news starting January 1st as small as necessary to be manageable KISS (Keep It Simple and stupid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle)
jdd
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Well I wanted to do backwards, first look for more volunteers and then ask about the period of publishing but this fit nice too so.. thanks for opening this thread. BTW I think Starting january the 1st is a long shot but I think I got what you mean. My other question is do we want this on the wiki as it used to be? I vote yes on that since for many reasons I find it easier to work on. To be more precise I am talking about this Template: http://en.opensuse.org/Template:Weekly_news_full Henne I don't think the idea is to do something like paper.li, if we all are in the same page I think we are talking for something not so faceless(on the community side talking) Stathis if translating is what you really worry about... don't. There are people who are willing to translate :D Translating the weekly news was always more fun that working on Lokalize or the Gnome tool that I am now forgeting it's name and it always had more people on board. Also we need to work on the name. Since we tend to make it Monthly we need to change the name and of course we need some graphics along with tons of other stuff. I thing that http://dodin.org:9001/p/weeklynews that Jdd made can be used, at least for starters, I will come back tommorow to write a list of things that need to be done and then people go there and take tasks. If we are quick I think that we will be ready for an issue on January. Thats it for now Kostas -- --- \m/ --- http://opensuse.gr http://amb.opensuse.gr http://www.kde.gr http://warlordfff.tk --- \m/ --- me I am not I --- \m/ --- Time travel is possible, you just need to know the right aliens -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner@opensuse.org
I also agree for the monthly news. For starting a project like that a monthly basis will enable more people to contribute and translators. If we manage to have it ready on time we can have it at bi-weeks. Weekly basis was difficult also in translating as i remember getting involved with it, because if you do not have the right number of translators to distribute the articles to translate them the job is not done well. Also we risk the variety of news topics. A monthly basis will also help us find news from the globe about openSUSE project and we will not pick articles fast in order to have them on time to get approved to be published on the news. Let's start smoothly it is a big project as i know for my experience in managing the translations in Greek for a time. In any ways i will help :) 2013/12/11 Kostas Koudaras <warlordfff@gmail.com>:
2013/12/11 jdd <jdd@dodin.org>:
Le 11/12/2013 11:12, jdd a écrit :
As I see this subject is hot, I think it's time to open a thread, not to hijack the task one, so, feel free to give your advice here (I will give mine later)
some years ago :-), I installed etherpad-lite for the marketting team use on one of my servers. It still works, simply do not start at boot and is not protected in any way.
A similar install on openSUSE infrastructure should be nice (of course protected by our usual passwd?) - but for now I wrote some ideas on it:
http://dodin.org:9001/p/weeklynews
feel free to add what you want where you want - it's only draft!
I have nothing against drive.google.com else than being hit by any change google wants to do.
same for paper.li that first ask to know all my facebook contacts, what I certainly won't accept.
Notice that I'm not against a monthly magazine, but this needs IMHO a much larger team that what we have now
I vote for a weekly news starting January 1st as small as necessary to be manageable KISS (Keep It Simple and stupid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle)
jdd
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Well I wanted to do backwards, first look for more volunteers and then ask about the period of publishing but this fit nice too so.. thanks for opening this thread. BTW I think Starting january the 1st is a long shot but I think I got what you mean.
My other question is do we want this on the wiki as it used to be? I vote yes on that since for many reasons I find it easier to work on. To be more precise I am talking about this Template: http://en.opensuse.org/Template:Weekly_news_full
Henne I don't think the idea is to do something like paper.li, if we all are in the same page I think we are talking for something not so faceless(on the community side talking)
Stathis if translating is what you really worry about... don't. There are people who are willing to translate :D Translating the weekly news was always more fun that working on Lokalize or the Gnome tool that I am now forgeting it's name and it always had more people on board.
Also we need to work on the name. Since we tend to make it Monthly we need to change the name and of course we need some graphics along with tons of other stuff. I thing that http://dodin.org:9001/p/weeklynews that Jdd made can be used, at least for starters, I will come back tommorow to write a list of things that need to be done and then people go there and take tasks. If we are quick I think that we will be ready for an issue on January. Thats it for now Kostas
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Hi ! This months I'm a bit offline (due work, etc...) but I read the (long) topics in marketing, and project ML... I think that a monthly news will be a good idea, and I could help to spread the word... Good idea this Geeko news! 2013/12/12 George Bratsos <bratsaki@gmail.com>:
I also agree for the monthly news.
For starting a project like that a monthly basis will enable more people to contribute and translators. If we manage to have it ready on time we can have it at bi-weeks.
Weekly basis was difficult also in translating as i remember getting involved with it, because if you do not have the right number of translators to distribute the articles to translate them the job is not done well. Also we risk the variety of news topics.
A monthly basis will also help us find news from the globe about openSUSE project and we will not pick articles fast in order to have them on time to get approved to be published on the news.
Let's start smoothly it is a big project as i know for my experience in managing the translations in Greek for a time.
In any ways i will help :)
2013/12/11 Kostas Koudaras <warlordfff@gmail.com>:
2013/12/11 jdd <jdd@dodin.org>:
Le 11/12/2013 11:12, jdd a écrit :
As I see this subject is hot, I think it's time to open a thread, not to hijack the task one, so, feel free to give your advice here (I will give mine later)
some years ago :-), I installed etherpad-lite for the marketting team use on one of my servers. It still works, simply do not start at boot and is not protected in any way.
A similar install on openSUSE infrastructure should be nice (of course protected by our usual passwd?) - but for now I wrote some ideas on it:
http://dodin.org:9001/p/weeklynews
feel free to add what you want where you want - it's only draft!
I have nothing against drive.google.com else than being hit by any change google wants to do.
same for paper.li that first ask to know all my facebook contacts, what I certainly won't accept.
Notice that I'm not against a monthly magazine, but this needs IMHO a much larger team that what we have now
I vote for a weekly news starting January 1st as small as necessary to be manageable KISS (Keep It Simple and stupid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle)
jdd
-- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+owner@opensuse.org
Well I wanted to do backwards, first look for more volunteers and then ask about the period of publishing but this fit nice too so.. thanks for opening this thread. BTW I think Starting january the 1st is a long shot but I think I got what you mean.
My other question is do we want this on the wiki as it used to be? I vote yes on that since for many reasons I find it easier to work on. To be more precise I am talking about this Template: http://en.opensuse.org/Template:Weekly_news_full
Henne I don't think the idea is to do something like paper.li, if we all are in the same page I think we are talking for something not so faceless(on the community side talking)
Stathis if translating is what you really worry about... don't. There are people who are willing to translate :D Translating the weekly news was always more fun that working on Lokalize or the Gnome tool that I am now forgeting it's name and it always had more people on board.
Also we need to work on the name. Since we tend to make it Monthly we need to change the name and of course we need some graphics along with tons of other stuff. I thing that http://dodin.org:9001/p/weeklynews that Jdd made can be used, at least for starters, I will come back tommorow to write a list of things that need to be done and then people go there and take tasks. If we are quick I think that we will be ready for an issue on January. Thats it for now Kostas
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