Hi again. A good symbol to go along with the release of openSUSE Leap 15.3 I believe is the yin and yang. I propose that artwork to market this release show the symbiotic relationship of Leap and SLE with a yin yang design. The imagery should help with the marketing. I put the topic in the marketing work group notes - https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/153wg. If you have any designs you want to share or other ideas on this topic, I'd love to read it. v/r Doug
My understanding of yin and yang as a random American: one means good and the other evil. Since they're being applied to SLE and openSUSE, aren't we effectively labeling one of the two evil? For numerous reasons, I would like to avoid risking such an interpretation of openSUSE's marketing content.
Otherwise, I like the concept. ________________________________ From: ddemaio ddemaio@suse.de Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 5:38:24 AM To: artwork@lists.opensuse.org artwork@lists.opensuse.org; opensuse-project@opensuse.org opensuse-project@opensuse.org; openSUSE Marketing opensuse-marketing@opensuse.org Subject: Leap's yin to SLE's yang
Hi again. A good symbol to go along with the release of openSUSE Leap 15.3 I believe is the yin and yang. I propose that artwork to market this release show the symbiotic relationship of Leap and SLE with a yin yang design. The imagery should help with the marketing. I put the topic in the marketing work group notes - https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fetherpad.op.... If you have any designs you want to share or other ideas on this topic, I'd love to read it. v/r Doug
Yin and yang are more about opposites (dualism) than anything judgmental (good and evil), or that is my understanding. Interesting note: the Wikipedia page doesn't have the word "evil" anywhere on it, though there is a brief mention of "good and bad" basically stating that's not what yin and yang are.
Anyway, I think there could be some value in this (yin/yang) comparison, but there may also be some drawbacks to consider while moving forward. One drawback is that a "random american" (or even other people, assuming there is anywhere outside America), might have the same understanding, and labeling either distribution evil/bad would at least be not-good for its reputation. Even if that is avoided, are SLE and Leap opposites? One feeds into the other, and in the same way I believe Tumbleweed feeds into Leap, so I have typically appreciated (as somebody who has been around SUSE for a while, so not a newbie in that regard) more of a continuum of Tumbleweed -> Leap -> SLE, which can celebrate the fun/excitement/newness of Tumbleweed, the practicality of Leap, and the stability of SLE without passing much other judgment.
Just some thoughts,
Aaron Burgemeister Identity / Security / Linux Consultant
On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 6:17 AM David Huffman storedbox@outlook.com wrote:
My understanding of yin and yang as a random American: one means good and the other evil. Since they're being applied to SLE and openSUSE, aren't we effectively labeling one of the two evil? For numerous reasons, I would like to avoid risking such an interpretation of openSUSE's marketing content.
Otherwise, I like the concept.
*From:* ddemaio ddemaio@suse.de *Sent:* Wednesday, February 24, 2021 5:38:24 AM *To:* artwork@lists.opensuse.org artwork@lists.opensuse.org; opensuse-project@opensuse.org opensuse-project@opensuse.org; openSUSE Marketing opensuse-marketing@opensuse.org *Subject:* Leap's yin to SLE's yang
Hi again. A good symbol to go along with the release of openSUSE Leap 15.3 I believe is the yin and yang. I propose that artwork to market this release show the symbiotic relationship of Leap and SLE with a yin yang design. The imagery should help with the marketing. I put the topic in the marketing work group notes - https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fetherpad.op....
If you have any designs you want to share or other ideas on this topic, I'd love to read it. v/r Doug
On 2/24/21 2:17 PM, David Huffman wrote:
My understanding of yin and yang as a random American: one means good and the other evil. Since they're being applied to SLE and openSUSE, aren't we effectively labeling one of the two evil? For numerous reasons, I would like to avoid risking such an interpretation of openSUSE's marketing content.
Same concern here, as a random Spaniard. ;-) I also perceive a big risk of that being interpreted as a bad vs evil thing.
And if the idea needs to be carefully explained in order to not be misunderstood, then I think it should not be used as a central marketing idea.
Cheers
On Wed 2021-02-24, ddemaio wrote:
A good symbol to go along with the release of openSUSE Leap 15.3 I believe is the yin and yang. I propose that artwork to market this release show the symbiotic relationship of Leap and SLE with a yin yang design.
Totally. In fact, Yin and Yang is something I have *literally* used in the context of Leap and SLE, also visually.
Though I've been used the concept to talk to the connectedness of the two, the mutual flow between them, not labeling one as Yin, the other as Yang.
From a Yoga perspective, SLE would be more on the Yin-y side than Leap, though using the concepts "active" and "receptive" the two really balance out nicely -- which really is key to our story.
Gerald
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