[opensuse-marketing] Fwd: flyer
G'day, here's the poster we threw together for Jos yesterday, and thanks to the folks who helped with this. It's pretty rough, lots of things could be improved but with just a few hours from concept to completion I'm pretty happy. It's the first time I've really used Scribus too. So this needs a bit of polishing before it is included in our resources. (improve text and design, fix alignment. Maybe lose some of the box borders for a cleaner look. That sort of thing.) This one was to be printed black and white, but I was thinking, if it was printed in color, some sort of blue ice theme would be fun, to play on the 'cool' idea. By the way Scribus is a bloody excellent program, if you haven't tried it do have a go. It's surprisingly intuitive, at first I had to hunt around the menus to find the attribute I wanted to edit but it didn't take long to start making sense. If you are using Scribus, stick with the current versio n for now (3.3.? I think rather than the 3.9 version which is not backwards compatible). cheers Helen
On 1/27/2011 3:38 PM, Helen wrote:
G'day,
here's the poster we threw together for Jos yesterday, and thanks to the folks who helped with this. It's pretty rough, lots of things could be improved but with just a few hours from concept to completion I'm pretty happy. It's the first time I've really used Scribus too. So this needs a bit of polishing before it is included in our resources. (improve text and design, fix alignment. Maybe lose some of the box borders for a cleaner look. That sort of thing.)
This one was to be printed black and white, but I was thinking, if it was printed in color, some sort of blue ice theme would be fun, to play on the 'cool' idea.
By the way Scribus is a bloody excellent program, if you haven't tried it do have a go. It's surprisingly intuitive, at first I had to hunt around the menus to find the attribute I wanted to edit but it didn't take long to start making sense.
If you are using Scribus, stick with the current versio n for now (3.3.? I think rather than the 3.9 version which is not backwards compatible).
cheers
Helen
Very nice! I'm not quite sure how I feel about the repetitive use of the word "COOL" though. :) -Matt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
It's possibly a little overkill and might not have been my first choice of buzzword, but Jos will be handing these out and it's a natural expression for him, so I think it will work. The aim was just to catch people's interest with a few really great features. Feel free to brainstorm some alternative words and ways to use them! I'd like to do a simpler, cleaner looking version with graphics elegantly incorporated into the text boxes. cheers Helen
Very nice! I'm not quite sure how I feel about the repetitive use of the word "COOL" though. :)
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On 2011-01-27 Helen wrote:
G'day,
here's the poster we threw together for Jos yesterday, and thanks to the folks who helped with this. It's pretty rough, lots of things could be improved but with just a few hours from concept to completion I'm pretty happy. It's the first time I've really used Scribus too. So this needs a bit of polishing before it is included in our resources. (improve text and design, fix alignment. Maybe lose some of the box borders for a cleaner look. That sort of thing.)
This one was to be printed black and white, but I was thinking, if it was printed in color, some sort of blue ice theme would be fun, to play on the 'cool' idea.
By the way Scribus is a bloody excellent program, if you haven't tried it do have a go. It's surprisingly intuitive, at first I had to hunt around the menus to find the attribute I wanted to edit but it didn't take long to start making sense.
If you are using Scribus, stick with the current versio n for now (3.3.? I think rather than the 3.9 version which is not backwards compatible).
cheers
Helen
just for everyone - the latest version is attached as PDF. Obviously we'll make sure this ends up on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Marketing_materials :D
On 01/28/2011 02:51 AM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On 2011-01-27 Helen wrote:
G'day,
here's the poster we threw together for Jos yesterday, and thanks to the folks who helped with this. It's pretty rough, lots of things could be improved but with just a few hours from concept to completion I'm pretty happy. It's the first time I've really used Scribus too. So this needs a bit of polishing before it is included in our resources. (improve text and design, fix alignment. Maybe lose some of the box borders for a cleaner look. That sort of thing.)
This one was to be printed black and white, but I was thinking, if it was printed in color, some sort of blue ice theme would be fun, to play on the 'cool' idea.
By the way Scribus is a bloody excellent program, if you haven't tried it do have a go. It's surprisingly intuitive, at first I had to hunt around the menus to find the attribute I wanted to edit but it didn't take long to start making sense.
If you are using Scribus, stick with the current versio n for now (3.3.? I think rather than the 3.9 version which is not backwards compatible).
cheers
Helen
just for everyone - the latest version is attached as PDF. Obviously we'll make sure this ends up on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Marketing_materials :D
you just do a wrong thing, use a old openSUSE logo and worst you pick it at 72dpi (check image attribute & properties in scribus) I thing that would be not "super good" printing it at 72dpi. I think it's too late for this one, but version 3 need it. -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Bruno,
The link from the git, when I download it, it save, but I can use it.
Does anyone know how to get the correct logo from git. Sorry, I am new
to git.
Chuck
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Bruno Friedmann
On 01/28/2011 02:51 AM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On 2011-01-27 Helen wrote:
G'day,
here's the poster we threw together for Jos yesterday, and thanks to the folks who helped with this. It's pretty rough, lots of things could be improved but with just a few hours from concept to completion I'm pretty happy. It's the first time I've really used Scribus too. So this needs a bit of polishing before it is included in our resources. (improve text and design, fix alignment. Maybe lose some of the box borders for a cleaner look. That sort of thing.)
This one was to be printed black and white, but I was thinking, if it was printed in color, some sort of blue ice theme would be fun, to play on the 'cool' idea.
By the way Scribus is a bloody excellent program, if you haven't tried it do have a go. It's surprisingly intuitive, at first I had to hunt around the menus to find the attribute I wanted to edit but it didn't take long to start making sense.
If you are using Scribus, stick with the current versio n for now (3.3.? I think rather than the 3.9 version which is not backwards compatible).
cheers
Helen
just for everyone - the latest version is attached as PDF. Obviously we'll make sure this ends up on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Marketing_materials :D
you just do a wrong thing, use a old openSUSE logo and worst you pick it at 72dpi (check image attribute & properties in scribus)
I thing that would be not "super good" printing it at 72dpi. I think it's too late for this one, but version 3 need it.
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Thanks Manu.
Chuck
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Manu Gupta
git clone git://gitorious.org/opensuse/webdesign.git
git clone git://gitorious.org/opensuse/art.git
Should work for artwork and web related work It will download the whole repo for you, then from the repo you can get the latest logos
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 08:19 -0500, Chuck Payne wrote:
Bruno,
The link from the git, when I download it, it save, but I can use it. Does anyone know how to get the correct logo from git. Sorry, I am new to git.
Chuck
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Bruno Friedmann
wrote: On 01/28/2011 02:51 AM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On 2011-01-27 Helen wrote:
G'day,
here's the poster we threw together for Jos yesterday, and thanks to the folks who helped with this. It's pretty rough, lots of things could be improved but with just a few hours from concept to completion I'm pretty happy. It's the first time I've really used Scribus too. So this needs a bit of polishing before it is included in our resources. (improve text and design, fix alignment. Maybe lose some of the box borders for a cleaner look. That sort of thing.)
This one was to be printed black and white, but I was thinking, if it was printed in color, some sort of blue ice theme would be fun, to play on the 'cool' idea.
By the way Scribus is a bloody excellent program, if you haven't tried it do have a go. It's surprisingly intuitive, at first I had to hunt around the menus to find the attribute I wanted to edit but it didn't take long to start making sense.
If you are using Scribus, stick with the current versio n for now (3.3.? I think rather than the 3.9 version which is not backwards compatible).
cheers
Helen
just for everyone - the latest version is attached as PDF. Obviously we'll make sure this ends up on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Marketing_materials :D
you just do a wrong thing, use a old openSUSE logo and worst you pick it at 72dpi (check image attribute & properties in scribus)
I thing that would be not "super good" printing it at 72dpi. I think it's too late for this one, but version 3 need it.
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git clone git://gitorious.org/opensuse/webdesign.git git clone git://gitorious.org/opensuse/art.git Should work for artwork and web related work It will download the whole repo for you, then from the repo you can get the latest logos On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 08:19 -0500, Chuck Payne wrote:
Bruno,
The link from the git, when I download it, it save, but I can use it. Does anyone know how to get the correct logo from git. Sorry, I am new to git.
Chuck
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Bruno Friedmann
wrote: On 01/28/2011 02:51 AM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On 2011-01-27 Helen wrote:
G'day,
here's the poster we threw together for Jos yesterday, and thanks to the folks who helped with this. It's pretty rough, lots of things could be improved but with just a few hours from concept to completion I'm pretty happy. It's the first time I've really used Scribus too. So this needs a bit of polishing before it is included in our resources. (improve text and design, fix alignment. Maybe lose some of the box borders for a cleaner look. That sort of thing.)
This one was to be printed black and white, but I was thinking, if it was printed in color, some sort of blue ice theme would be fun, to play on the 'cool' idea.
By the way Scribus is a bloody excellent program, if you haven't tried it do have a go. It's surprisingly intuitive, at first I had to hunt around the menus to find the attribute I wanted to edit but it didn't take long to start making sense.
If you are using Scribus, stick with the current versio n for now (3.3.? I think rather than the 3.9 version which is not backwards compatible).
cheers
Helen
just for everyone - the latest version is attached as PDF. Obviously we'll make sure this ends up on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Marketing_materials :D
you just do a wrong thing, use a old openSUSE logo and worst you pick it at 72dpi (check image attribute & properties in scribus)
I thing that would be not "super good" printing it at 72dpi. I think it's too late for this one, but version 3 need it.
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That's because it's just about impossible to find a good one in the
format I want. I tried looking on GIT and could only find a SVG which
downloaded as a pile of code.
GIT is HORRIBLE to find things on - I hate having to click through
fifty different folders to find things, and there's hardly any jpgs or
pngs, and I have to click before I can see what it looks like. It just
makes no sense at all.
Can we have the final artwork put on the WIKI and made easy to find
please? One page with a graphical index.
Or else gather together some and email it to the list so I can have it
ready to go on my hard drive.
COPYRIGHTS - dister logo is from here http://susestudio.com/artwork/
and I think is ok to use in this context as far as I can tell (ie,
talking about Studio).
My assumption with marketing materials is that they essentially belong
to openSUSE. I havent' followed the entirety of the current copyright
discussion. Any writing I do for other markets (such as magazine
articles) I'll clearly mark with a copyright notice
So it's (cc) or (c)openSUSE as far as I'm concerned. (Jos??)
cheers
Helen
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Bruno Friedmann
On 01/28/2011 02:51 AM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On 2011-01-27 Helen wrote:
G'day,
here's the poster we threw together for Jos yesterday, and thanks to the folks who helped with this. It's pretty rough, lots of things could be improved but with just a few hours from concept to completion I'm pretty happy. It's the first time I've really used Scribus too. So this needs a bit of polishing before it is included in our resources. (improve text and design, fix alignment. Maybe lose some of the box borders for a cleaner look. That sort of thing.)
This one was to be printed black and white, but I was thinking, if it was printed in color, some sort of blue ice theme would be fun, to play on the 'cool' idea.
By the way Scribus is a bloody excellent program, if you haven't tried it do have a go. It's surprisingly intuitive, at first I had to hunt around the menus to find the attribute I wanted to edit but it didn't take long to start making sense.
If you are using Scribus, stick with the current versio n for now (3.3.? I think rather than the 3.9 version which is not backwards compatible).
cheers
Helen
just for everyone - the latest version is attached as PDF. Obviously we'll make sure this ends up on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Marketing_materials :D
you just do a wrong thing, use a old openSUSE logo and worst you pick it at 72dpi (check image attribute & properties in scribus)
I thing that would be not "super good" printing it at 72dpi. I think it's too late for this one, but version 3 need it.
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On 2011-01-28 Helen wrote:
That's because it's just about impossible to find a good one in the format I want. I tried looking on GIT and could only find a SVG which downloaded as a pile of code.
GIT is HORRIBLE to find things on - I hate having to click through fifty different folders to find things, and there's hardly any jpgs or pngs, and I have to click before I can see what it looks like. It just makes no sense at all.
Can we have the final artwork put on the WIKI and made easy to find please? One page with a graphical index.
Fully agreed. I know Robert has a lot of stuff on his computer and I think I want to have it in form of a big tar.bz2 and take it with me to the marketing meeting. There we can sort through it and put it all online. ANYTHING we create, for whatever purpose, should go on the wiki! Including sources! ;-)
Or else gather together some and email it to the list so I can have it ready to go on my hard drive.
COPYRIGHTS - dister logo is from here http://susestudio.com/artwork/ and I think is ok to use in this context as far as I can tell (ie, talking about Studio).
My assumption with marketing materials is that they essentially belong to openSUSE. I havent' followed the entirety of the current copyright discussion. Any writing I do for other markets (such as magazine articles) I'll clearly mark with a copyright notice
So it's (cc) or (c)openSUSE as far as I'm concerned. (Jos??)
Public domain as far as I am concerned, as free as possible at least :D CC by SA or so would probably do. We want ppl to USE this material!
cheers
Helen
On 01/30/2011 12:35 AM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On 2011-01-28 Helen wrote:
That's because it's just about impossible to find a good one in the format I want. I tried looking on GIT and could only find a SVG which downloaded as a pile of code.
GIT is HORRIBLE to find things on - I hate having to click through fifty different folders to find things, and there's hardly any jpgs or pngs, and I have to click before I can see what it looks like. It just makes no sense at all.
Can we have the final artwork put on the WIKI and made easy to find please? One page with a graphical index.
Fully agreed. I know Robert has a lot of stuff on his computer and I think I want to have it in form of a big tar.bz2 and take it with me to the marketing meeting. There we can sort through it and put it all online. ANYTHING we create, for whatever purpose, should go on the wiki! Including sources!
;-)
Or else gather together some and email it to the list so I can have it ready to go on my hard drive.
COPYRIGHTS - dister logo is from here http://susestudio.com/artwork/ and I think is ok to use in this context as far as I can tell (ie, talking about Studio).
My assumption with marketing materials is that they essentially belong to openSUSE. I havent' followed the entirety of the current copyright discussion. Any writing I do for other markets (such as magazine articles) I'll clearly mark with a copyright notice
So it's (cc) or (c)openSUSE as far as I'm concerned. (Jos??)
Public domain as far as I am concerned, as free as possible at least :D CC by SA or so would probably do. We want ppl to USE this material!
cheers
Helen
Dear Helen & Jos ... Sure we should have the sources online, but wiki is just a pain in A (yes a big a) Tools source control are really cool things. as we can track quickly what change or not, and what was the modification. With svg is more easy, you can just get the patch about it. Mainly asking hostmaster to allow the svg type and not text/plain for svg files. Sure the web base browsing interface should be adjusted to perhaps offer a preview. but once you have it locally why bothering about the web things. What would be nice is to have more people able to commit to the git artwork repo, and try to find a way to have one for marketing too. I'm describing now why we must use it. In April or May, if the deal ends with Attachmate, lot's of stuff will need to be revised. Without an scm, we would just end in an horrible mess about what to change, who change it, when it was change last time. All that kind of queries can be run on scm, none of them would be available in wiki. Having a kind of gallery, updated automagically, git clone on a website and it's done ... My main issue with the wiki, is if someone for good or bad reason destroy a page, or change the wiki yet another time we will loose all of what's inside it. Who can actually said, that all of the stuff present in the old-en.o.o was now in en.o.o etc etc ... you will certainly understand, that's I'm not a big fan about the wiki, but yes I also want all marketing material somewhere online. In a manageable way that would be cool. Do we need help from a master of Git : certainly. So he can help each of us which are non-dev's to understand how to work with this great tools. -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 16:35 +0100, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On 01/30/2011 12:35 AM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On 2011-01-28 Helen wrote:
That's because it's just about impossible to find a good one in the format I want. I tried looking on GIT and could only find a SVG which downloaded as a pile of code.
GIT is HORRIBLE to find things on - I hate having to click through fifty different folders to find things, and there's hardly any jpgs or pngs, and I have to click before I can see what it looks like. It just makes no sense at all.
Can we have the final artwork put on the WIKI and made easy to find please? One page with a graphical index.
Fully agreed. I know Robert has a lot of stuff on his computer and I think I want to have it in form of a big tar.bz2 and take it with me to the marketing meeting. There we can sort through it and put it all online. ANYTHING we create, for whatever purpose, should go on the wiki! Including sources!
;-)
Or else gather together some and email it to the list so I can have it ready to go on my hard drive.
COPYRIGHTS - dister logo is from here http://susestudio.com/artwork/ and I think is ok to use in this context as far as I can tell (ie, talking about Studio).
My assumption with marketing materials is that they essentially belong to openSUSE. I havent' followed the entirety of the current copyright discussion. Any writing I do for other markets (such as magazine articles) I'll clearly mark with a copyright notice
So it's (cc) or (c)openSUSE as far as I'm concerned. (Jos??)
Public domain as far as I am concerned, as free as possible at least :D CC by SA or so would probably do. We want ppl to USE this material!
cheers
Helen
Dear Helen & Jos ... Sure we should have the sources online, but wiki is just a pain in A (yes a big a)
Tools source control are really cool things. as we can track quickly what change or not, and what was the modification. With svg is more easy, you can just get the patch about it. Mainly asking hostmaster to allow the svg type and not text/plain for svg files.
Sure the web base browsing interface should be adjusted to perhaps offer a preview. but once you have it locally why bothering about the web things.
What would be nice is to have more people able to commit to the git artwork repo, and try to find a way to have one for marketing too.
I'm describing now why we must use it.
In April or May, if the deal ends with Attachmate, lot's of stuff will need to be revised. Without an scm, we would just end in an horrible mess about what to change, who change it, when it was change last time. All that kind of queries can be run on scm, none of them would be available in wiki. Having a kind of gallery, updated automagically, git clone on a website and it's done ...
My main issue with the wiki, is if someone for good or bad reason destroy a page, or change the wiki yet another time we will loose all of what's inside it. Who can actually said, that all of the stuff present in the old-en.o.o was now in en.o.o etc etc ...
you will certainly understand, that's I'm not a big fan about the wiki, but yes I also want all marketing material somewhere online. In a manageable way that would be cool.
Do we need help from a master of Git : certainly. So he can help each of us which are non-dev's to understand how to work with this great tools.
--
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Sorry, But I have to agree with Jos and Helen more than with you on this one. The main goal is to ensure that any artwork we have is readily accessible and usable. Other project marketing teams have lowered the bar on being able to access material, why haven't we yet? I've brought this up in the past and hit a wall and am glad that Jos and Helen are carrying the ball forward on raising this issue. How many times have we been able to go to some other website or project and simply click and save an image that we want to put on, for example, our blog? And in that instant click process, that project gets automatic free promotion from us. Yet, we cannot do the same for our own project. And then we wonder why we aren't doing a better job of promoting openSUSE. There are definitely technical advantages for artists to use GIT for works in progress or revisions. But final artwork needs to be up on the web where anyone can grab it. Sure I can learn GIT, and so can anyone else. But having a GIT master teach everyone is a rather myopic and self-defeating process. Do you expect the GIT Master to be able to teach GIT to someone who just stops by our site for a minute to grab some artwork for an article or a blog post or a poster or... How in heck do you expect that to happen? Keep the bar low. Make things easily "grabbable." It is far easier for a user to download our ISO's than it is to download graphics. Think about that. :-) Bryen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Le 30/01/2011 16:35, Bruno Friedmann a écrit :
wiki, but yes I also want all marketing material somewhere online. In a manageable way that would be cool.
we probably need both. Don't forget we will need to cope with raw material (not ready to go pubmic) and this can't be done on the wiki. isn't it possible to link to git with a standard URL for final material? (is is for CVS and I didn't go further :-() jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Agreed, this was my thought on reading the very valid reasons for using GIT.
Simple graphical index pages on WIKI with clear links to GIT.
On the wiki include a note saying that illustrations are for reference
purpose only, download the current correct version from GIT. Also some
text for SEO purposes.
Agreed also that the wiki is a pain; perhaps once the Attachmate
merger and branding issues are resolved, a downloadable CD ISO of
media resources, including plenty of 'raw materials' as well as logos,
palettes etc, would be useful for contributors.
cheers
Helen
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:51 AM, jdd
Le 30/01/2011 16:35, Bruno Friedmann a écrit :
wiki, but yes I also want all marketing material somewhere online. In a manageable way that would be cool.
we probably need both. Don't forget we will need to cope with raw material (not ready to go pubmic) and this can't be done on the wiki.
isn't it possible to link to git with a standard URL for final material? (is is for CVS and I didn't go further :-()
jdd
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On Sunday, January 30, 2011 09:35:44 am Bruno Friedmann wrote:
My main issue with the wiki, is if someone for good or bad reason destroy a page, or change the wiki yet another time we will loose all of what's inside it.
I don't think that content destruction is actually possible as servers are backed up, and, also any deletion on the wiki is final only before you remove whole server installation and database entries. Also, there is quite number of files that are spread on people computers, so recreating content, even if hosting just shuts down whole operation, is just a matter of time. I'm pretty sure that no one even consider to shut down wikies before giving some time to take files and articles to other place.
Who can actually said, that all of the stuff present in the old-en.o.o was now in en.o.o
It is not, but old-en.o.o is still there and it will be for some time, at least as long as Novell will keep server up. There are few reasons to keep it running: - Expense for virtualized server that is not used is very low. - Transferring content is time consuming operation and we can't move content that has historic importance, with number of contributors we have now. The problem is that wiki can take files up to 4 MB, which is not that big, and wiki is not able to present svg files, so one would have to download them to see what they are about. There are workrounds, like manually creating icons, but that is a lot of work too. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On 01/30/2011 04:56 PM, Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:
On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 16:35 +0100, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On 01/30/2011 12:35 AM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On 2011-01-28 Helen wrote:
That's because it's just about impossible to find a good one in the format I want. I tried looking on GIT and could only find a SVG which downloaded as a pile of code.
GIT is HORRIBLE to find things on - I hate having to click through fifty different folders to find things, and there's hardly any jpgs or pngs, and I have to click before I can see what it looks like. It just makes no sense at all.
Can we have the final artwork put on the WIKI and made easy to find please? One page with a graphical index.
Fully agreed. I know Robert has a lot of stuff on his computer and I think I want to have it in form of a big tar.bz2 and take it with me to the marketing meeting. There we can sort through it and put it all online. ANYTHING we create, for whatever purpose, should go on the wiki! Including sources!
;-)
Or else gather together some and email it to the list so I can have it ready to go on my hard drive.
COPYRIGHTS - dister logo is from here http://susestudio.com/artwork/ and I think is ok to use in this context as far as I can tell (ie, talking about Studio).
My assumption with marketing materials is that they essentially belong to openSUSE. I havent' followed the entirety of the current copyright discussion. Any writing I do for other markets (such as magazine articles) I'll clearly mark with a copyright notice
So it's (cc) or (c)openSUSE as far as I'm concerned. (Jos??)
Public domain as far as I am concerned, as free as possible at least :D CC by SA or so would probably do. We want ppl to USE this material!
cheers
Helen
Dear Helen & Jos ... Sure we should have the sources online, but wiki is just a pain in A (yes a big a)
Tools source control are really cool things. as we can track quickly what change or not, and what was the modification. With svg is more easy, you can just get the patch about it. Mainly asking hostmaster to allow the svg type and not text/plain for svg files.
Sure the web base browsing interface should be adjusted to perhaps offer a preview. but once you have it locally why bothering about the web things.
What would be nice is to have more people able to commit to the git artwork repo, and try to find a way to have one for marketing too.
I'm describing now why we must use it.
In April or May, if the deal ends with Attachmate, lot's of stuff will need to be revised. Without an scm, we would just end in an horrible mess about what to change, who change it, when it was change last time. All that kind of queries can be run on scm, none of them would be available in wiki. Having a kind of gallery, updated automagically, git clone on a website and it's done ...
My main issue with the wiki, is if someone for good or bad reason destroy a page, or change the wiki yet another time we will loose all of what's inside it. Who can actually said, that all of the stuff present in the old-en.o.o was now in en.o.o etc etc ...
you will certainly understand, that's I'm not a big fan about the wiki, but yes I also want all marketing material somewhere online. In a manageable way that would be cool.
Do we need help from a master of Git : certainly. So he can help each of us which are non-dev's to understand how to work with this great tools.
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Sorry, But I have to agree with Jos and Helen more than with you on this one.
In fact, we are just all agree !
The main goal is to ensure that any artwork we have is readily accessible and usable. Other project marketing teams have lowered the bar on being able to access material, why haven't we yet? I've brought this up in the past and hit a wall and am glad that Jos and Helen are carrying the ball forward on raising this issue.
I agree with that.
How many times have we been able to go to some other website or project and simply click and save an image that we want to put on, for example, our blog? And in that instant click process, that project gets automatic free promotion from us. Yet, we cannot do the same for our own project. And then we wonder why we aren't doing a better job of promoting openSUSE.
There are definitely technical advantages for artists to use GIT for works in progress or revisions. But final artwork needs to be up on the web where anyone can grab it.
An that's the key point : artist or content provider need good tools Git is one for that (no restriction on upload, branches, revisions etc) And marketing people, or all consumers, need a browse, see/preview, clic download interface I can't imagine another way to do that. Can be just a directory browsing, or even better a wiki page automagically generated. Each git repo folder = one category ( Presentations, Logos, How-To etc ... ) How to achieve that : well a webserver somewhere (need to be define) create a one time git clone then a cron job refresh it every 5/15 minutes, and a script parse that and generate page and links It's not that hard to realize.
Sure I can learn GIT, and so can anyone else. But having a GIT master teach everyone is a rather myopic and self-defeating process. Do you expect the GIT Master to be able to teach GIT to someone who just stops by our site for a minute to grab some artwork for an article or a blog post or a poster or... How in heck do you expect that to happen?
It was not intended for media consumers, just for the group of commiters.
Keep the bar low. Make things easily "grabbable." It is far easier for a user to download our ISO's than it is to download graphics.
Oh, Ok I can also ask the script to build a media.iso with all of them inside :D Think
about that. :-) I've done it, sorry if it doesn't appear in my previous words .
Bryen
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I think everyone has got a point over here, Bruno is right and again Helen, Jos and Bryen are right too. Personally, I am in favour of git but not at Gitorious but at Github because github provides an api by which we can easily generate the list of all the repos and fulfill our requirements easily. This will be something like an rss feed. Any thoughts people Regards Manu On Mon, 2011-01-31 at 13:51 +0100, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On 01/30/2011 04:56 PM, Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:
On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 16:35 +0100, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
On 01/30/2011 12:35 AM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On 2011-01-28 Helen wrote:
That's because it's just about impossible to find a good one in the format I want. I tried looking on GIT and could only find a SVG which downloaded as a pile of code.
GIT is HORRIBLE to find things on - I hate having to click through fifty different folders to find things, and there's hardly any jpgs or pngs, and I have to click before I can see what it looks like. It just makes no sense at all.
Can we have the final artwork put on the WIKI and made easy to find please? One page with a graphical index.
Fully agreed. I know Robert has a lot of stuff on his computer and I think I want to have it in form of a big tar.bz2 and take it with me to the marketing meeting. There we can sort through it and put it all online. ANYTHING we create, for whatever purpose, should go on the wiki! Including sources!
;-)
Or else gather together some and email it to the list so I can have it ready to go on my hard drive.
COPYRIGHTS - dister logo is from here http://susestudio.com/artwork/ and I think is ok to use in this context as far as I can tell (ie, talking about Studio).
My assumption with marketing materials is that they essentially belong to openSUSE. I havent' followed the entirety of the current copyright discussion. Any writing I do for other markets (such as magazine articles) I'll clearly mark with a copyright notice
So it's (cc) or (c)openSUSE as far as I'm concerned. (Jos??)
Public domain as far as I am concerned, as free as possible at least :D CC by SA or so would probably do. We want ppl to USE this material!
cheers
Helen
Dear Helen & Jos ... Sure we should have the sources online, but wiki is just a pain in A (yes a big a)
Tools source control are really cool things. as we can track quickly what change or not, and what was the modification. With svg is more easy, you can just get the patch about it. Mainly asking hostmaster to allow the svg type and not text/plain for svg files.
Sure the web base browsing interface should be adjusted to perhaps offer a preview. but once you have it locally why bothering about the web things.
What would be nice is to have more people able to commit to the git artwork repo, and try to find a way to have one for marketing too.
I'm describing now why we must use it.
In April or May, if the deal ends with Attachmate, lot's of stuff will need to be revised. Without an scm, we would just end in an horrible mess about what to change, who change it, when it was change last time. All that kind of queries can be run on scm, none of them would be available in wiki. Having a kind of gallery, updated automagically, git clone on a website and it's done ...
My main issue with the wiki, is if someone for good or bad reason destroy a page, or change the wiki yet another time we will loose all of what's inside it. Who can actually said, that all of the stuff present in the old-en.o.o was now in en.o.o etc etc ...
you will certainly understand, that's I'm not a big fan about the wiki, but yes I also want all marketing material somewhere online. In a manageable way that would be cool.
Do we need help from a master of Git : certainly. So he can help each of us which are non-dev's to understand how to work with this great tools.
--
Bruno Friedmann
Sorry, But I have to agree with Jos and Helen more than with you on this one.
In fact, we are just all agree !
The main goal is to ensure that any artwork we have is readily accessible and usable. Other project marketing teams have lowered the bar on being able to access material, why haven't we yet? I've brought this up in the past and hit a wall and am glad that Jos and Helen are carrying the ball forward on raising this issue.
I agree with that.
How many times have we been able to go to some other website or project and simply click and save an image that we want to put on, for example, our blog? And in that instant click process, that project gets automatic free promotion from us. Yet, we cannot do the same for our own project. And then we wonder why we aren't doing a better job of promoting openSUSE.
There are definitely technical advantages for artists to use GIT for works in progress or revisions. But final artwork needs to be up on the web where anyone can grab it.
An that's the key point : artist or content provider need good tools Git is one for that (no restriction on upload, branches, revisions etc)
And marketing people, or all consumers, need a browse, see/preview, clic download interface I can't imagine another way to do that. Can be just a directory browsing, or even better a wiki page automagically generated. Each git repo folder = one category ( Presentations, Logos, How-To etc ... )
How to achieve that : well a webserver somewhere (need to be define) create a one time git clone then a cron job refresh it every 5/15 minutes, and a script parse that and generate page and links It's not that hard to realize.
Sure I can learn GIT, and so can anyone else. But having a GIT master teach everyone is a rather myopic and self-defeating process. Do you expect the GIT Master to be able to teach GIT to someone who just stops by our site for a minute to grab some artwork for an article or a blog post or a poster or... How in heck do you expect that to happen?
It was not intended for media consumers, just for the group of commiters.
Keep the bar low. Make things easily "grabbable." It is far easier for a user to download our ISO's than it is to download graphics.
Oh, Ok I can also ask the script to build a media.iso with all of them inside :D
Think
about that. :-) I've done it, sorry if it doesn't appear in my previous words .
Bryen
In résumé :
Git is used mainly by artists and content providers. Everybody can submit a new content starting by sharing it when possible to the wiki so discussion and reviewing process can be done there. When it has be accepted/validate it found it's way to git repo by one of those who can write.
medias.o.o : get it's content for the git repo, automatically, and generate a nice browsing repository, so it's easy to anybody to found and grab the media they need. Search can be easy if documents contains proper meta-tags and exif informations.
Bryen, I want it simple as pain/fromage (bread & cheese) :-)
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On 30.01.2011, at 00:35, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On 2011-01-28 Helen wrote:
That's because it's just about impossible to find a good one in the format I want. I tried looking on GIT and could only find a SVG which downloaded as a pile of code.
GIT is HORRIBLE to find things on - I hate having to click through fifty different folders to find things, and there's hardly any jpgs or pngs, and I have to click before I can see what it looks like. It just makes no sense at all.
Can we have the final artwork put on the WIKI and made easy to find please? One page with a graphical index.
Fully agreed. I know Robert has a lot of stuff on his computer and I think I want to have it in form of a big tar.bz2 and take it with me to the marketing meeting. There we can sort through it and put it all online. ANYTHING we create, for whatever purpose, should go on the wiki! Including sources!
;-)
I agree, that we need a solution for this. We also had a discussion about this on the openSUSE Conference ... something like Designhub would be cool. Finally tools like Git are a large barrier for pure artworker, we need something like a web-UI for Git ... a simple way to share, contribute and browse (search, *) the artwork. How ever, I try to sort-out the stuff I have made and push the sources to the artwork git an png/jpgs in the wiki. But this will take a while. @Jos/Helen: you need something special? Cheers, Robert
Or else gather together some and email it to the list so I can have it ready to go on my hard drive.
COPYRIGHTS - dister logo is from here http://susestudio.com/artwork/ and I think is ok to use in this context as far as I can tell (ie, talking about Studio).
My assumption with marketing materials is that they essentially belong to openSUSE. I havent' followed the entirety of the current copyright discussion. Any writing I do for other markets (such as magazine articles) I'll clearly mark with a copyright notice
So it's (cc) or (c)openSUSE as far as I'm concerned. (Jos??)
Public domain as far as I am concerned, as free as possible at least :D CC by SA or so would probably do. We want ppl to USE this material!
cheers
Helen
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@Jos/Helen: you need something special?
Cheers,
Robert
Most urgent need for team right now, is a collection of correct, current logos, the official openSUSE one plus any logos for related features, eg OBS, KIWI, Bretzn/AppInstaller, Studio, Desktops, assorted software, plus any promotional images such as Geeko characters, in a high resolution and choice of formats ( jpeg, png, svg) ready to use in the promotional material we are creating. Also a note with color codes for official colors and current themes. (additionally background wallpapers and screenshots may be useful.) This would be very helpful in the lead up to scale and 11.4 release. The idea of the GitHub with nice front end and other ideas suggested for ongoing media hub sound very promising. I've noticed we sometimes have input from casual contributors who aren't part of the regular team but create terrific stuff occasionally. Helen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Helen and other fellows Based on Helen and Jos design of flyer, I created other 3 options as a way to contribute with some cents. I would like to remember that this work is for design purpose only with very low quality for print, it is 100 dpi, also have some margins and alignment to be fix, but is enough to be analized and commented by anyone who whishes. You can see files here http://lh5.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdTl4eWH0I/AAAAAAAAEOE/KNL7LeYhpDI/s720/F... http://lh3.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdTt3gwZLI/AAAAAAAAEOI/Zpkfk1OvdrY/s720/F... http://lh6.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdT6E7yVNI/AAAAAAAAEOM/AB0RwQSls50/s720/F... Em Ter, 2011-02-01 às 08:54 +1100, Helen escreveu:
@Jos/Helen: you need something special?
Cheers,
Robert
Most urgent need for team right now, is a collection of correct, current logos, the official openSUSE one plus any logos for related features, eg OBS, KIWI, Bretzn/AppInstaller, Studio, Desktops, assorted software, plus any promotional images such as Geeko characters, in a high resolution and choice of formats ( jpeg, png, svg) ready to use in the promotional material we are creating.
Also a note with color codes for official colors and current themes.
(additionally background wallpapers and screenshots may be useful.)
This would be very helpful in the lead up to scale and 11.4 release.
The idea of the GitHub with nice front end and other ideas suggested for ongoing media hub sound very promising. I've noticed we sometimes have input from casual contributors who aren't part of the regular team but create terrific stuff occasionally.
Helen
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oh nice! Much more stylish!!!! Are these in color too?
(good B&W reproduction is nice when we need fast cheap printing, but
color always wins.... :) )
FlyerCR (plain white background) I'd make the bottom box a little bit
narrower so it doesn't connect with the box above.
need to check names and terminology with Bretzn/Appinstaller.
cheers
Helen
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Carlos Ribeiro
Helen and other fellows
Based on Helen and Jos design of flyer, I created other 3 options as a way to contribute with some cents.
I would like to remember that this work is for design purpose only with very low quality for print, it is 100 dpi, also have some margins and alignment to be fix, but is enough to be analized and commented by anyone who whishes.
You can see files here http://lh5.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdTl4eWH0I/AAAAAAAAEOE/KNL7LeYhpDI/s720/F... http://lh3.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdTt3gwZLI/AAAAAAAAEOI/Zpkfk1OvdrY/s720/F... http://lh6.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdT6E7yVNI/AAAAAAAAEOM/AB0RwQSls50/s720/F...
Em Ter, 2011-02-01 às 08:54 +1100, Helen escreveu:
@Jos/Helen: you need something special?
Cheers,
Robert
Most urgent need for team right now, is a collection of correct, current logos, the official openSUSE one plus any logos for related features, eg OBS, KIWI, Bretzn/AppInstaller, Studio, Desktops, assorted software, plus any promotional images such as Geeko characters, in a high resolution and choice of formats ( jpeg, png, svg) ready to use in the promotional material we are creating.
Also a note with color codes for official colors and current themes.
(additionally background wallpapers and screenshots may be useful.)
This would be very helpful in the lead up to scale and 11.4 release.
The idea of the GitHub with nice front end and other ideas suggested for ongoing media hub sound very promising. I've noticed we sometimes have input from casual contributors who aren't part of the regular team but create terrific stuff occasionally.
Helen
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On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Manu Gupta
git clone git://gitorious.org/opensuse/webdesign.git
git clone git://gitorious.org/opensuse/art.git
Should work for artwork and web related work It will download the whole repo for you, then from the repo you can get the latest logos
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 08:19 -0500, Chuck Payne wrote:
Bruno,
The link from the git, when I download it, it save, but I can use it. Does anyone know how to get the correct logo from git. Sorry, I am new to git.
Chuck
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Bruno Friedmann
wrote: On 01/28/2011 02:51 AM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
On 2011-01-27 Helen wrote:
G'day,
here's the poster we threw together for Jos yesterday, and thanks to the folks who helped with this. It's pretty rough, lots of things could be improved but with just a few hours from concept to completion I'm pretty happy. It's the first time I've really used Scribus too. So this needs a bit of polishing before it is included in our resources. (improve text and design, fix alignment. Maybe lose some of the box borders for a cleaner look. That sort of thing.)
This one was to be printed black and white, but I was thinking, if it was printed in color, some sort of blue ice theme would be fun, to play on the 'cool' idea.
By the way Scribus is a bloody excellent program, if you haven't tried it do have a go. It's surprisingly intuitive, at first I had to hunt around the menus to find the attribute I wanted to edit but it didn't take long to start making sense.
If you are using Scribus, stick with the current versio n for now (3.3.? I think rather than the 3.9 version which is not backwards compatible).
cheers
Helen
just for everyone - the latest version is attached as PDF. Obviously we'll make sure this ends up on http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Marketing_materials :D
you just do a wrong thing, use a old openSUSE logo and worst you pick it at 72dpi (check image attribute & properties in scribus)
I thing that would be not "super good" printing it at 72dpi. I think it's too late for this one, but version 3 need it.
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Le 01/02/2011 01:40, Carlos Ribeiro a écrit :
You can see files here http://lh5.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdTl4eWH0I/AAAAAAAAEOE/KNL7LeYhpDI/s720/F... http://lh3.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdTt3gwZLI/AAAAAAAAEOI/Zpkfk1OvdrY/s720/F... http://lh6.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdT6E7yVNI/AAAAAAAAEOM/AB0RwQSls50/s720/F...
the medium one (CR02) is the one I like the best, however, if ink come in impportance, may be a version like the first one will be cheaper? And I would like better "what is cool "around" openSUSE", because the flyer speaks more of what we add as a community then what is cool in the distro itself (see the wiki) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Wow
I am try to re-create the information flyer we have for the Greek
community and I need something simple and b/w to print cheap in A5
page and that is perfect.
Carlos can you send me the Source files so that I can work with it?
I am currently working in a series of 'tools' that we could provide to
ambassadors all over the world so that we promote more the development
of local communities.That way we can encourage people who doesn't know
good or not at all the English language to work with openSUSE and
maybe even contribute to the project.
Kostas
2011/2/1 jdd
Le 01/02/2011 01:40, Carlos Ribeiro a écrit :
You can see files here http://lh5.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdTl4eWH0I/AAAAAAAAEOE/KNL7LeYhpDI/s720/F... http://lh3.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdTt3gwZLI/AAAAAAAAEOI/Zpkfk1OvdrY/s720/F... http://lh6.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdT6E7yVNI/AAAAAAAAEOM/AB0RwQSls50/s720/F...
the medium one (CR02) is the one I like the best, however, if ink come in impportance, may be a version like the first one will be cheaper?
And I would like better "what is cool "around" openSUSE", because the flyer speaks more of what we add as a community then what is cool in the distro itself (see the wiki)
jdd
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Hello Kostas, I already uploaded the source files. http://en.opensuse.org/images/6/69/FlyerA4-v01.svg http://en.opensuse.org/images/2/22/FlyerA4-v02.svg http://en.opensuse.org/images/c/ca/FlyerA4-v03.svg After many unsuccessful tries to upload PNG file format to opensuse.org I decided to upload and share through the picasaweb server, so... FlyerA4-v01.png http://picasaweb.google.com/carlosalberto.net/OpenSUSEFlyer#5568797048804809... FlyerA4-v02.png http://picasaweb.google.com/carlosalberto.net/OpenSUSEFlyer#5568802621744256... FlyerA4-v3.png http://picasaweb.google.com/carlosalberto.net/OpenSUSEFlyer#5568804053394840... PS: I use inkscape to create this files, also I exported to png with 300 dpi's. The font type used was fifthleg bold Em Ter, 2011-02-01 às 09:46 +0200, Kostas Koudaras escreveu:
Wow I am try to re-create the information flyer we have for the Greek community and I need something simple and b/w to print cheap in A5 page and that is perfect. Carlos can you send me the Source files so that I can work with it? I am currently working in a series of 'tools' that we could provide to ambassadors all over the world so that we promote more the development of local communities.That way we can encourage people who doesn't know good or not at all the English language to work with openSUSE and maybe even contribute to the project. Kostas
2011/2/1 jdd
: Le 01/02/2011 01:40, Carlos Ribeiro a écrit :
You can see files here http://lh5.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdTl4eWH0I/AAAAAAAAEOE/KNL7LeYhpDI/s720/F... http://lh3.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdTt3gwZLI/AAAAAAAAEOI/Zpkfk1OvdrY/s720/F... http://lh6.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdT6E7yVNI/AAAAAAAAEOM/AB0RwQSls50/s720/F...
the medium one (CR02) is the one I like the best, however, if ink come in impportance, may be a version like the first one will be cheaper?
And I would like better "what is cool "around" openSUSE", because the flyer speaks more of what we add as a community then what is cool in the distro itself (see the wiki)
jdd
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Em Ter, 2011-02-01 às 08:20 +0100, jdd escreveu:
Le 01/02/2011 01:40, Carlos Ribeiro a écrit :
You can see files here http://lh5.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdTl4eWH0I/AAAAAAAAEOE/KNL7LeYhpDI/s720/F... http://lh3.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdTt3gwZLI/AAAAAAAAEOI/Zpkfk1OvdrY/s720/F... http://lh6.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdT6E7yVNI/AAAAAAAAEOM/AB0RwQSls50/s720/F...
the medium one (CR02) is the one I like the best, however, if ink come in impportance, may be a version like the first one will be cheaper?
And I would like better "what is cool "around" openSUSE", because the flyer speaks more of what we add as a community then what is cool in the distro itself (see the wiki)
What about "what's cool "inside and around" openSUSE" PS: I already uploaded the source files, take a look in my previous mail. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Le 01/02/2011 21:15, Carlos Ribeiro a écrit :
"what's cool "inside and around" openSUSE"
why not :-) but we need also a flyer with the inside points (the overall aspect is very nice) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
2011/2/1 jdd
Le 01/02/2011 21:15, Carlos Ribeiro a écrit :
"what's cool "inside and around" openSUSE"
why not :-)
but we need also a flyer with the inside points (the overall aspect is very nice)
jdd
What do you mean by saying inside points?
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Le 01/02/2011 22:47, Kostas Koudaras a écrit :
What do you mean by saying inside points?
the flyer gives very little room to all the things that makes the openSUSE *distro* cool. inside the distro. jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 31 January 2011 14:06:12 Manu Gupta wrote:
I think everyone has got a point over here, Bruno is right and again Helen, Jos and Bryen are right too.
Personally, I am in favour of git but not at Gitorious but at Github because github provides an api by which we can easily generate the list of all the repos and fulfill our requirements easily. This will be something like an rss feed. Any thoughts people
I am frankly not opposed to ANY solution - and surely not something which sounds pretty great like you describe. Problem is that someone needs to set it up. And the bar for contributions for US has to be low too. A wiki is there and can be easily modified by all of us - no matter how imperfect it is. So for now, I think it's good if we would all try and use the wiki as much as possible, while the artists work in git (and put final stuff on the wiki). Then, if and when we come up with a better solution - we move to that :D Makes sense, right?
Regards Manu
On Tuesday 01 February 2011 22:57:50 jdd wrote:
Le 01/02/2011 22:47, Kostas Koudaras a écrit :
What do you mean by saying inside points?
the flyer gives very little room to all the things that makes the openSUSE *distro* cool. inside the distro.
I always find it a bit hard to promote openSUSE to people who know linux and use eg Ubuntu or Fedora already based on the product itself. As I wrote earlier, I don't believe differences are huge. And the distro points that ARE unique are in the flyer: we ship all desktops, Tumbleweed & evergreen. Maybe we could/should add (web)YaST but otherwise - for a technical audience I think the current flyer is good. However things are of course different for a more 'newbie' audience! For them we should have something. But we're working on that!!! Here: http://piratepad.net/d8xWTUwHq3 !!!!! For more experienced users who might want to contribute we also work on this: http://piratepad.net/xKoBE4vmSM ;-) We need a series of different flyers and posters. This A4 thing which was made by Helen, me, I've seen Kostas I believe, in the etherpad, and everyone who responded to my "creativity?" email (including Kim, Manu, Cornelius etc) - it targets people who know linux very well but are not aware that openSUSE has such cool stuff. They won't be impressed by us saying it's easy to use or install... They know that Ubuntu and Fedora can't be much harder (and they are right). So, if we manage to finish these end-user and this contributor flyer, we'll have something for everyone: admins & technical people: what's cool in openSUSE. End users - enduser flyer. Maybe-contributors - contributors flyer. Maybe we need a flyer with more info for the technical users, expanding upon the what's cool in openSUSE (that just makes them google or talk to us, it doesn't answer any questions). But I think we should finish the end-user and contributor ones first :D
jdd
Le 02/02/2011 01:03, Jos Poortvliet a écrit :
I always find it a bit hard to promote openSUSE to people who know linux and use eg Ubuntu or Fedora already based on the product itself. As I wrote earlier, I don't believe differences are huge.
it's not my opinion at all. Look at what is now on the wiki page and no other distro have. openSUSE have *many* good points other distros don't have! jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
Le 02/02/2011 01:03, Jos Poortvliet a écrit :
We need a series of different flyers and posters.
this is perfectly true, I never said that the poster is bad. Itr's only incomplete :-) we have so many more things than others :-)) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 01 Feb 2011 21:45:32 jdd wrote:
Le 01/02/2011 21:15, Carlos Ribeiro a écrit :
"what's cool "inside and around" openSUSE"
why not :-)
but we need also a flyer with the inside points (the overall aspect is very nice)
jdd
I aggree - a flyer that lists more inside the operating system, rather than the project - multimedia apps, office productivity, games, accounting and finance, internet browsing, something to inform potential new users about the wonder of using opensuse as a day to day operating system. There seems to a lot of focus on the project in general, with little reguard to actually promoting the distribution. Is there a specific reason for that? Or is it just different teams working on it? IMHO new folks don't even know what linux is let alone get confused with build service and suse studio. Can't we target new people to bring them on board? -- Kind Regards Stuart Tanner Bolton Linux 24 Vincent Street Bolton BL1 4SA Tel: +44(0)1204 410474 Mob: +44(0)7868 028028 www.bolin.org.uk Distributing openSUSE in the UK Registered Linux User: 529825 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 02 February 2011 12:24:09 Stuart Tanner wrote:
On Tuesday 01 Feb 2011 21:45:32 jdd wrote:
Le 01/02/2011 21:15, Carlos Ribeiro a écrit :
"what's cool "inside and around" openSUSE"
why not :-)
but we need also a flyer with the inside points (the overall aspect is very nice)
jdd
I aggree - a flyer that lists more inside the operating system, rather than the project - multimedia apps, office productivity, games, accounting and finance, internet browsing, something to inform potential new users about the wonder of using opensuse as a day to day operating system.
There seems to a lot of focus on the project in general, with little reguard to actually promoting the distribution.
Is there a specific reason for that? Or is it just different teams working on it? IMHO new folks don't even know what linux is let alone get confused with build service and suse studio.
Can't we target new people to bring them on board?
Yes and we should. See the links I posted earlier, input is welcome.
On Tuesday 01 February 2011 08:20:51 jdd wrote:
Le 01/02/2011 01:40, Carlos Ribeiro a écrit :
You can see files here http://lh5.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdTl4eWH0I/AAAAAAAAEOE/KNL7LeYhpDI/s72 0/FlyerCR.jpg http://lh3.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdTt3gwZLI/AAAAAAAAEOI/Zpkfk1OvdrY/s7 20/FlyerCR02small.jpg http://lh6.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdT6E7yVNI/AAAAAAAAEOM/AB0RwQSls50/s7 20/FlyerCR03small.jpg
the medium one (CR02) is the one I like the best, however, if ink come in impportance, may be a version like the first one will be cheaper?
And I would like better "what is cool "around" openSUSE", because the flyer speaks more of what we add as a community then what is cool in the distro itself (see the wiki)
jdd
I agree with master jdd. Jacqueline, I think we should put 10 or 20 of these into each ambassador kit! Carlos, it would be nice if you could make one with color too and have a PDF somewhere, easier to print I think... Could you, if you manage to make it quickly, send it to Jacqueline? Otherwise the version you made on picassaweb in the other links you send to Kostas is very usable and could go live! darn, this is really awesome work, Carlos-man, I love you ;-) (don't tell camila)
participants (13)
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Bruno Friedmann
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Bryen M. Yunashko
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Carlos Ribeiro
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Chuck Payne
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Helen
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jdd
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Jos Poortvliet
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Kostas Koudaras
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Manu Gupta
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Matt Hayes
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Rajko M.
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Robert Lihm
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Stuart Tanner