Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote:
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Satoru Matsumoto <helios_reds@gmx.net> wrote:
Comforming with the branding, some logos in that page are not allowed. But I remember, red-capped Geeko was on the 'Main page' of the Wiki during Christmas season a few years ago and I have not heard that Novell lodged an objection about that.
If it was a few years ago, we might not have had the guidelines we have now -- or it may have been missed. Or the creator might have asked / received permission. Just because something slips through, it may not indicate that the guidelines have changed. ;-)
Looking at the 11.1 DVDs which I received for the local launch party, I can see '*green* Geeko on *gray* background'. But in Artwork:Brand[1] page, it is described: - When using the logo on top of textured or colored background, use the monochrome version of the logo. The SUSE green should only be used on white backgrounds. [1] http://en.opensuse.org/Artwork:Brand Doesn't it contradict the principle ? Or, is it asked and permitted ? I don't mean to object about that, of cource. What I want to say is, branding policies that we have now in Artwork:Brand page are not transformed into reality, because there are already many 'modified Geeko's all over the world.
So, I'd like to ask Novell, "Are we not allowed to modify logos you own at all, even if we want to use it for our community activities ?"
We're working on a trademark policy, and hope to have it done relatively soon.
Tentatively, what we would like to have is a logo that's used for "official" communications, boxes, etc. and a logo that is available for "community" activities and can be modified.
You can always ask permission to use the "official" logo as well -- but what we'd like is a policy that allows as many things automatically as possible. Since we have limited manpower, especially on the legal side, we want to automate as much as possible and limit the "special cases."
IMHO, policies, restrictions and bans described in present Artwork:Brand are not for the openSUSE project or community, but for the business partners or resellers from Novell's eyes. If some companies want to use openSUSE logos or Geeko for their business, they should use them only as directed. But if someone want to use them for openSUSE related projects or communities, restrictions should be more flexible.
If we are allowed to modify logos under certain conditions, I'd like to know the criteria and restrictions.
We're working on that and we'll publish it as soon as we can. Do you have any input on what kind of situations you need to modify the logo vs. using the stock logo? (Aside from this one, of course...)
Well, if I want to make a new logo as a symbol for Japanese local user group, I'd like to combine Geeko, custom logo for "Japanese Users Group" and, for example, Fujiyama's figure or Japanese flag or map to make the logo. :-) Geeko with Statue of Liberty for LUG in US, Geeko with matador for Spanish LUG, Geeko with panda for chinese LUG..., I think they also will be useful. In addition, as Weekly News Team is just about to make the logo for Weekly News, I think making new logos for each Teams might be a good idea. How about Geeko with KDE gears for KDE Team, Geeko with GNOME foot print for GNOME Team, Geeko with Yastie for YaST Team, etc. ;-) But under policies, restrictions and bans described in present Artwork:Brand, those ideas can't become reality unless permitted by Novell in each case. IMHO, we don't need the articles such as "minimal external spacing" for spacing, articles described in "Things to Avoid", as far as the purpose is for openSUSE related project's or community's activities. Best, -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ Satoru Matsumoto - openSUSE Member - Japan _/_/ _/_/ Marketing & Weekly News Team _/_/ _/_/ mail: helios_reds@gmx.net / irc: HeliosReds _/_/ _/_/ http://blog.geeko.jp/author/heliosreds _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org