A couple of thoughts about the current etherpad document for the conference. I'm not sure that 'one size fits all' and wonder if I could develop a second document; have this one as it's current broad, general coverage with a little more beginner explanation, for 'general use' and beginner or general news sites, and develop a second more targetted to advanced users with coding knowledge/sysadmins/developers. A clearer idea of where the document is to be used would help to keep the wording on target. (my impression when we started was a sort of advertising brochure). As I said, I'm happy to develop a separate document if this would be helpful. I was thinking about this because a lot of the stuff singing the praises of openSUSE or explaining tech terms is somewhat superfluous to advanced users - they will want to focus on the more hands-on stuff and the bleeding edge tech. Beginner users: Jos mentions explaining some points (eg upstream) for newbies. I'm not seeing a lot of content on the conference topics for beginners; sometimes it's hard to tell what the intended audience is for a topic by the title, so if someone could have a look at that, it would help. In the current document, we have 'bug fixing' as 'easy' - to me anyone who can fix bugs isn't a linux noobie! To me someone who can fix code is advanced. So it might be helpful to clarify whether the amateur home user non-programmer will want to attend. (Personally as someone interested in Free Software and community development, yes; but this is different to the home user who just wants to play with new software or find out how to put Conky on his system.) !!! PLEASE ----- Could someone have a scan through the presenters list and make a note of any keynote/important speakers or interesting personalities who should be mentioned. If you would list these for me (along with a short line on who they are if you like), I can do a quick google for some background on them too. I'm just heading out for half an hour, when I get back I'll have the whole day available to work on this so if you'd like to point me in the right direction, hopefully I can churn out some good useful text while you sleep! thanks! Helen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help@opensuse.org