[opensuse-kernel] getting stable patches into 13.2
Hi, I was wondering how we wish to get stable fixes into 13.2. The last stable update was put in at the end of October. This means that we have ignored upwards of 100 fixes. There is the alternative in the form of the patches Canonical makes. Whether we like them or not, using what they make would result in a better kernel. What do you think? Regards Oliver -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Oliver, Le Thursday 07 May 2015 à 16:18 +0200, Oliver Neukum a écrit :
I was wondering how we wish to get stable fixes into 13.2. The last stable update was put in at the end of October. This means that we have ignored upwards of 100 fixes.
There is the alternative in the form of the patches Canonical makes. Whether we like them or not, using what they make would result in a better kernel.
What do you think?
I agree with you that the current situation isn't good. But there has been several long discussions on that topic on this list before, the various options have been listed, with their pros and cons, and in the end nothing happened. I don't think it makes sense to start the whole discussion again, what is needed is to take action based on the previous conclusion. Or decide once and for all that we stick to the current situation. (I'm not in favor of this, but to some degree it would still be better than the uncertainty we are in at the moment.) -- Jean Delvare SUSE L3 Support -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2015-05-07 at 17:04 +0200, Jean Delvare wrote: Good morning,
I agree with you that the current situation isn't good. But there has been several long discussions on that topic on this list before, the various options have been listed, with their pros and cons, and in the
Well, in the end we have to have a decision, or leave the kernel to bitrot implicitly.
end nothing happened. I don't think it makes sense to start the whole discussion again, what is needed is to take action based on the previous conclusion. Or decide once and for all that we stick to the current situation. (I'm not in favor of this, but to some degree it would still be better than the uncertainty we are in at the moment.)
I am facing a chicken and egg situation here. Doing the right thing is a huge investment. I am not going to do that unless I get prior agreement that the patches would be accepted in principle. Regards Oliver -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/07/2015 09:18 AM, Oliver Neukum wrote:
Hi,
I was wondering how we wish to get stable fixes into 13.2. The last stable update was put in at the end of October. This means that we have ignored upwards of 100 fixes.
There is the alternative in the form of the patches Canonical makes. Whether we like them or not, using what they make would result in a better kernel.
What do you think?
Patches intended for stable would be OK, but please do not backport any API changes the way that Ubuntu and RHEL do. Once that is done, all out-of-kernel drivers break as it is no longer sufficient to test the kernel version using the appropriate macros. One needs to also test the distro's sub version. As I support many such drivers, this is a non-trivial question. My solution is to stop supporting the kernels from those distros. I certainly hope that I do not need to add openSUSE to my black list of offending kernel sources. Larry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kernel+owner@opensuse.org
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