You may be on to something. In perusing the log files I found one that stated the nvidia driver 'tainted' the kernel. Now, this is a new installation - only about a week old. after installing, I got YOU going and in the process downloaded the nvidia driver. All went well ... until today. So I guess my next question needs to be how do I disable the nvidia driver and fall back to something that works so I can get in and manually get this beast back on its feet? I tried running sax2, but all I get is a blank screen with an outlined X in the middle of it. I looked in SaX.log and found a long litany of information, but nothing that jumped out at me as a problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- Bill Lugg Milstar Software Support Peterson AFB, CO On Thu, 23 December 2004 4:16 pm, BandiPat wrote:

On Thursday 23 December 2004 12:04 pm, William Lugg wrote:

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This morning I started my SuSE 9.1/KDE 3.2 box and it goes through the boot process but leaves me at the 'linux login:' prompt in a text console when it should have started KDE. I logged in a root and did an 'init 5' and it put several things up on the screen, displayed the nvidia splash screen and returned to the text console.

What do I need to do to get KDE running again? I'm not seeing any errors during the boot that would lead me to the problem. =========

My first thoughts would be either your Nvidia setup or you need to run sax2, in order to setup your graphics. I'm guessing you recently updated or installed a new Nvidia driver?

regards, Lee

Bill, If that doesn't work for you try running sax: "sax2 -r" as root. That will re-init the sax database and you will have to reconfigure all the hardware again (mouse, keyboard and video), but should default to the vanilla nv driver (which is not currently quite as good as the NVIDIA driver with your hardware). My experience with the NVIDIA drivers that every time the kernel is updated via YOU you have to compile a new kernel NVIDIA module that matches the updated kernel. It is not an automatic process. You can always re-install/compile the NVIDIA drivers by running "sh /your_path_to/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-XXXX-pkg1.run" (your filename may vary slightly depending on version) as root from runlevel 1 or 3. IE: type "init 3" in a terminal window as root before you execute the NVIDIA script. Once that is complete you run "sax2 -m 0=nvidia" to load the new driver (note 0 is a zero not an o). Read the docs below carefully because they differ for platform and version before you attempt this. The documentation is located at: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/X/XFree86/nvidia-installer-HOWTO Interestingly, it is easier to find this link from the NVIDIA website than on the SuSE site. The latest NVIDA drivers are available at: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux.html It is also my experience that an older driver may sometimes work better than a newer one depending again on your specific hardware (particularly when switching between terminal sessions and an X session). Although closed source is generally a bad thing it is a good thing that NVIDIA is supporting the Linux community with drivers for their products. Perhaps in time they will come around. Merry Christmas! Doug kgeorgokitsos@nomioan.gr wrote:

On Friday 24 December 2004 09:04, William Lugg wrote:

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You may be on to something. In perusing the log files I found one that stated the nvidia driver 'tainted' the kernel.

That does not mean a lot. It's the kernel saying that some non-free SW was introduced (the nvidia driver is closed source), that's all.

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Now, this is a new installation - only about a week old. after installing, I got YOU going and in the process downloaded the nvidia driver. All went well ... until today.

So I guess my next question needs to be how do I disable the nvidia driver and fall back to something that works so I can get in and manually get this beast back on its feet?

Try setting the driver to nv. Do that in /etc/X11/XF86Config at the Section "Device"

change Driver "nvidia"

to Driver "nv"

If the nvidia driver is at fault, this should give you the default X11 nvidia driver. This one works quite well, except that it does not support 3D, But you'll be able to work with the XServer (and KDE) again. Mind you I don't have 9.2 just 9.1, but I don't suppose that config file changed drastically since then.

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I tried running sax2, but all I get is a blank screen with an outlined X in the middle of it. I looked in SaX.log and found a long litany of information, but nothing that jumped out at me as a problem.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- Bill Lugg Milstar Software Support Peterson AFB, CO

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