[opensuse-kde] 12.2 focus - the big list
I've been through the lists, the bugs, and the top feature requests, and this is the list of things I have found for us to work on. Please add anything I've missed in reply and I'll add it to the wiki shortly and start assigning people to tasks. Polish KDM * userlist (bnc#727821) * windows domain support * KCM support Workspace * tapping default, better config (fate#308149 - addressed by new synaptiks?) * video thumbnailer * notifications cleanup across all apps * disable useless ktip * default window sizing * print-manager plasmoid * QML plasmoids? * netbook edition (fate#308401,fate#308269, total 27 votes) * menu hierarchy cleanup Subpixel hinting * cartman has packages Integration with rest of distro * kde-gtk-config * oxygen-gtk3 * local RPM install * clean up file associations Don't launch gimp from firefox for pdf! * Fix PolicyKit systemsettings module * Look out for bad PolicyKit defaults before release (The 'Linus' syndrome) * Thunderbird/KDE integration (fate#308955, 28 votes) Stability/Bugs PIM mail loss migration filtering CPU issues (done, right?) mail address autocompletion groups in kaddressbook Apper no kded hangs please Workspace left behind taskbar entries for closed apps (kde#275469) Super Bugreporters' lists (eg Malv) 729892 - PackageKit EULA display (FIXED 12.1) 720746 - kmix CPU usage (11.4 - relevant?) 659153 - Optical drive tray recloses on KDE eject (NOT FIXED 12.1) 725412 - sysctl settings get reset (FIXED 12.1) related: kde#261522,kde#264487 (constant optical spinning due to Solid) 356533 - kmenuedit bugs (NOT FIXED 12.1) Missing apps * Kamoso (webcam app) - need kglobal key binding to XF86Webcam) * Knights (chess) * Calligra 2.4 (DONE) * Backup app (fate#305394 - backintime? (alin)) * working akonadi-google resource (DONE) Plasma Active Not shippable alongside normal 4.8 AFAIU Klyde lightweight packaging Need to present changes and merge to KDF Need a -branding package that sets default config so Klyde works for default users when the full set of KDE packages is installed KSecretService upstream acks not ready, not used, forget about it KDE Telepathy looking good but good enough for default? Menu in titlebar Gnome patches won't be merged to factory GTK Need a panel layout to demonstrate it Plymouth integration kdebase4-workspace patched, should be DONE -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Board, Booster, KDE Developer SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 18 April 2012 13:27:05 Will Stephenson wrote:
I've been through the lists, the bugs, and the top feature requests, and this is the list of things I have found for us to work on. Please add anything I've missed in reply and I'll add it to the wiki shortly and start assigning people to tasks.
I'm not sure what category it would fall under, but a phonon backend for VLC 2.0/2.1 would be nice Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch 18 April 2012, 13:32:09 schrieb Anders Johansson:
I'm not sure what category it would fall under, but a phonon backend for VLC 2.0/2.1 would be nice
That's for Packman to do. As far as I can read from the mailing list archives over there, the problem is that a newer Phonon version is required than 12.1 ships by default. Unless they find some workaround, the back-end won't appear on Packman until 12.2 because that will ship the newer Phonon version. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Op woensdag 18 april 2012 13:27:05 schreef Will Stephenson:
Stability/Bugs PIM mail loss migration filtering CPU issues (done, right?) mail address autocompletion groups in kaddressbook
I would appreciate a fix for https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221963 "The font size in which the contacts are displayed is to small" Comment 9 suggests a way to fix it. Regards, Cor -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, On 04/18/2012 01:27 PM, Will Stephenson wrote: [...]
Stability/Bugs
BNC#728554: first login attempt after boot always fails This bug appears only on one of the machines I use regularly and has little impact. But it is very annoying and I have heard a lot of people complain about it. It's bad user experience when the first thing you notice is a bug after every boot. Bye Nanuk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 18 April 2012 14:19:21 Nanuk Krinner wrote:
Hello,
On 04/18/2012 01:27 PM, Will Stephenson wrote: [...]
Stability/Bugs
BNC#728554: first login attempt after boot always fails
This bug appears only on one of the machines I use regularly and has little impact. But it is very annoying and I have heard a lot of people complain about it. It's bad user experience when the first thing you notice is a bug after every boot.
Is this machine in the office? I have neglected this bug as I never found a way to reproduce it. WIll -- Will Stephenson | openSUSE Board, openSUSE Boosters Team, KDE Developer SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, On 04/19/2012 01:03 PM, Will Stephenson wrote: [...]
BNC#728554: first login attempt after boot always fails
This bug appears only on one of the machines I use regularly and has little impact. But it is very annoying and I have heard a lot of people complain about it. It's bad user experience when the first thing you notice is a bug after every boot.
Is this machine in the office? I have neglected this bug as I never found a way to reproduce it.
It is my personal netbook. I can bring it into the office if you want to have a look at it. Bye Nanuk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 18-04-12 14:19, Nanuk Krinner wrote:
Hello,
On 04/18/2012 01:27 PM, Will Stephenson wrote: [...]
Stability/Bugs
BNC#728554: first login attempt after boot always fails
This bug appears only on one of the machines I use regularly and has little impact. But it is very annoying and I have heard a lot of people complain about it. It's bad user experience when the first thing you notice is a bug after every boot.
Nanuk, This happens on both of my suse machines because the second letter you type is only accepted after a short (too long) pause. This happens only with the standard Suse theme. I switched to the standard kdm theme because it annoys the hell out of me. This can be done by making the setting for DISPLAYMANAGER_KDM_THEME empty in the /etc/sysconfig-editor (yast) Regards, Peter Vollebregt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
* Will Stephenson <wstephenson@suse.de> [04-18-12 07:28]:
I've been through the lists, the bugs, and the top feature requests, and this is the list of things I have found for us to work on. Please add anything I've missed in reply and I'll add it to the wiki shortly and start assigning people to tasks.
Stability/Bugs Super Bugreporters' lists (eg Malv) 729892 - PackageKit EULA display (FIXED 12.1) 720746 - kmix CPU usage (11.4 - relevant?) 659153 - Optical drive tray recloses on KDE eject (NOT FIXED 12.1) 725412 - sysctl settings get reset (FIXED 12.1) related: kde#261522,kde#264487 (constant optical spinning due to Solid) 356533 - kmenuedit bugs (NOT FIXED 12.1)
74360 - kernel-desktop-3.3.0 looses wireless connection ath5k, phy0: gain callibration timeout makes wireless virtually unusable, reboot required to reconnect. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
* Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> [04-18-12 08:46]:
74360 - kernel-desktop-3.3.0 looses wireless connection ath5k, phy0: gain callibration timeout
makes wireless virtually unusable, reboot required to reconnect.
Sorry, this is *not* kde prblm. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 08:49:59AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> [04-18-12 08:46]:
74360 - kernel-desktop-3.3.0 looses wireless connection ath5k, phy0: gain callibration timeout
makes wireless virtually unusable, reboot required to reconnect.
Sorry, this is *not* kde prblm.
And it's fixed in kernel release 3.3.1. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch 18 April 2012, 08:49:59 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:
* Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> [04-18-12 08:46]:
74360 - kernel-desktop-3.3.0 looses wireless connection ath5k,
phy0: gain callibration timeout
makes wireless virtually unusable, reboot required to reconnect.
Sorry, this is *not* kde prblm.
Thanks for mentioning it anyway. Bug seems to have been backported to 12.1 a few weeks ago. Really annoying. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
* Markus <kamikazow@gmx.de> [04-18-12 16:31]:
Am Mittwoch 18 April 2012, 08:49:59 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:
* Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org> [04-18-12 08:46]:
74360 - kernel-desktop-3.3.0 looses wireless connection ath5k,
phy0: gain callibration timeout
makes wireless virtually unusable, reboot required to reconnect.
Sorry, this is *not* kde prblm.
Thanks for mentioning it anyway. Bug seems to have been backported to 12.1 a few weeks ago. Really annoying.
It is solved with kernel version 3.3.2+ (or appears to be). -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch 18 April 2012, 16:37:22 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:
Thanks for mentioning it anyway. Bug seems to have been backported to 12.1 a few weeks ago. Really annoying.
It is solved with kernel version 3.3.2+ (or appears to be).
Too bad. Not fixed with anything 12.1 has as official updates. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
In data mercoledì 18 aprile 2012 13:27:05, Will Stephenson ha scritto:
I've been through the lists, the bugs, and the top feature requests, and this is the list of things I have found for us to work on. Please add anything I've missed in reply and I'll add it to the wiki shortly and start assigning people to tasks.
Polish KDM * userlist (bnc#727821) * windows domain support * KCM support Hi, not sure what "KCM support" is but what about setting KDM them inside System Settings ? Do we still need to manually change theme in /etc/sysconfig/... ? Maybe it's already fixed, I'm still on 11.4 with kde 4.7.*
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Onsdag den 18. april 2012 13:27:05 Will Stephenson skrev:
Please add anything I've missed in reply and I'll add it to the wiki shortly and start assigning people to tasks.
Polish * Look out for bad PolicyKit defaults before release (The 'Linus' syndrome)
I wonder if this covers setting the time and date settings from the digital clock context menu. My father had problems with 12.1 cuz he right clicked the digital clock and adjusted the settings and even configured a ntp server, but the settings would never persist after reboot. I assume that a permission issue causes this. So either KDE should be allowed to change the date/time, or else digital clock should be patched to call yast instead of an impotent KDE dialog. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/18/2012 09:23 AM, Martin Schlander wrote:
Onsdag den 18. april 2012 13:27:05 Will Stephenson skrev:
Please add anything I've missed in reply and I'll add it to the wiki shortly and start assigning people to tasks.
Polish * Look out for bad PolicyKit defaults before release (The 'Linus' syndrome)
I wonder if this covers setting the time and date settings from the digital clock context menu.
My father had problems with 12.1 cuz he right clicked the digital clock and adjusted the settings and even configured a ntp server, but the settings would never persist after reboot. I assume that a permission issue causes this.
So either KDE should be allowed to change the date/time, or else digital clock should be patched to call yast instead of an impotent KDE dialog.
Is there a bug for this ? I have seen similar behavior on my 11.4 laptop with multiple time zones enabled in the tray icon. This has persisted since the 11.4 original install. Thanks, Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 18:23 +0200, Martin Schlander wrote:
Onsdag den 18. april 2012 13:27:05 Will Stephenson skrev:
Please add anything I've missed in reply and I'll add it to the wiki shortly and start assigning people to tasks.
Polish * Look out for bad PolicyKit defaults before release (The 'Linus' syndrome)
I wonder if this covers setting the time and date settings from the digital clock context menu.
My father had problems with 12.1 cuz he right clicked the digital clock and adjusted the settings and even configured a ntp server, but the settings would never persist after reboot. I assume that a permission issue causes this. ting correctly. I have a wireless connection that c So either KDE should be allowed to change the date/time, or else digital clock should be patched to call yast instead of an impotent KDE dialog.
I see on my up-to-date KDE 4.8.4 on openSUSE 12.1 that ntp is not starting correctly. I have a wireless connection that comes up when I log in. The ntp start seems not to happen at that time. I have to run rcntp by hand. (I know there is a new command, too...) This problem happened a while back in early 12.1 days and was corrected. But it is back again. At least on my system. Maybe that is wha is happening for your dad? It would appear settings are lost. They are not. It is just that ntp is not running. -- Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am 18. April 2012 13:27 schrieb Will Stephenson <wstephenson@suse.de>:
PIM mail loss migration filtering CPU issues (done, right?) mail address autocompletion groups in kaddressbook
* configure the default KDE install in a way that does not start any Akonadi/Strigi/Virtuoso/Tracker things unless the user EXPLICITLY enables them / uses something of those services. * i remember the last time i used a 12.1 Live CD that kresmigrator popped up - there was no need for them * Akonadi? created a huge database logfile(?) which is a stupid thing on a live CD, and in general since KMail is basically a toy now anyway * make it a goal that a default KDE installation with 12.2 uses less RAM then a 12.1 install (by checking the default configs to not start resource intensive things unless really NEEDED) -- Christoph -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 18 Apr 2012 22:42:17 Christoph Obexer wrote:
Am 18. April 2012 13:27 schrieb Will Stephenson <wstephenson@suse.de>:
PIM mail loss migration filtering CPU issues (done, right?) mail address autocompletion groups in kaddressbook
* configure the default KDE install in a way that does not start any Akonadi/Strigi/Virtuoso/Tracker things unless the user EXPLICITLY enables them / uses something of those services.
I'm addressing this in KLyDE (specifically, the kdebase4-klyde package that generates the branding, but it needs more work to work as a default branding packages.
* i remember the last time i used a 12.1 Live CD that kresmigrator popped up - there was no need for them
+1
* Akonadi? created a huge database logfile(?) which is a stupid thing on a live CD, and in general since KMail is basically a toy now anyway
Akonadi should already not start on its own on the livecd - if it does this is a bug.
* make it a goal that a default KDE installation with 12.2 uses less RAM then a 12.1 install (by checking the default configs to not start resource intensive things unless really NEEDED)
Good one.
-- Christoph -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Board, Booster, KDE Developer SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch 18 April 2012, 13:27:05 schrieb Will Stephenson:
Missing apps While not a part of KDE, mesa-nouveau3d should be installed by default to get out of the box compositing for KWin with NVidia GPUs.
Any chance for not-default LightDM-KDE packages?
Plasma Active Not shippable alongside normal 4.8 AFAIU
Right. Plasma Active 3 will be based on 4.9, i.e. 12.3 material.
KDE Telepathy looking good but good enough for default?
Menu in titlebar Gnome patches won't be merged to factory GTK Need a panel layout to demonstrate it I was under the impression that GNOME 3.4's global menu bar implementation was
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Unstable:/Playground:/Telepat... looks as if full Pidgin is pulled as dependency for libpurple. That should be cleaned up first. based on appmenu which means it is integrated and should be compatible with any appmenu-based implementation for Plasma/KWin. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 18 Apr 2012 22:42:21 Markus wrote:
Am Mittwoch 18 April 2012, 13:27:05 schrieb Will Stephenson:
Missing apps
While not a part of KDE, mesa-nouveau3d should be installed by default to get out of the box compositing for KWin with NVidia GPUs.
Any chance for not-default LightDM-KDE packages?
Dunno, it needs someone to take responsibility for it. Want to step up? Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Board, Booster, KDE Developer SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday, April 19, 2012, Will Stephenson <wstephenson@suse.de> wrote:
Any chance for not-default LightDM-KDE packages?
Dunno, it needs someone to take responsibility for it. Want to step up?
Will, You can assign this to me. I already have some lightdm builds in my repo including the lightdm-kde one coming from KDE-GIt. However I am doubting if this is really something that we want to release. Still doesn't really work optimal, but have to check again. At least the latest Lightdm releases are Plymouth aware :-) Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag 19 April 2012, 09:26:26 schrieb Raymond Wooninck:
However I am doubting if this is really something that we want to release. Still doesn't really work optimal, but have to check again.
Not optimal or completely broken? From what I gathered looking through Kubuntu stuff, accessibility seems to be absent from LightDM-KDE. While I agree that this could be considered a deal breaker for being default, I have the feeling that the benefits of additional testing outweigh the negative aspects, esp. since no one asks for LightDM as default right now. I have not read any news on KDM with QML since almost exactly a year <http://sreich.blogspot.de/2011/04/kdm-plasma-good-news-everyone.html> and last development activity on the KDM-Plasma branch was 8 months ago unless it moved to a new location I'm not aware of: <https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde- workspace/repository/show/kdm?rev=kdm-plasma> OTOH Aurélien is working like crazy on LightDM-KDE: https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/base/lightdm/activity I think LightDM-KDE has a real prospect to aspire for default in 12.3. Until then IMO non-default packages should be available. The package description could reflect that LightDM is not yet as mature as KDM. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag 19 April 2012, 09:26:26 schrieb Raymond Wooninck:
You can assign this to me. I already have some lightdm builds in my repo including the lightdm-kde one coming from KDE-GIt.
What became of LightDM-KDE? Aurelien prepared LightDM-KDE 0.1.x branch for non-default use in the current Kubuntu cycle: http://agateau.com/2012/04/21/lightdm-kde-0-1-0-released/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Will, This looks like a fantastic list. I'm going to print it out and put it next to my monitor. Thanks for putting it together! I'll do my best to test and re-test as many of these bugs/improvements as possible in the lead up to release. On KDE's Telepathy, it might be best left until 12.3? It appears to stil be very early in development and it is likely that changes will still be coming quickly at this point. Pidgin, though a GTK application should suffice until then.
I've been through the lists, the bugs, and the top feature requests, and this is the list of things I have found for us to work on. Please add anything I've missed in reply and I'll add it to the wiki shortly and start assigning people to tasks.
Polish KDM * userlist (bnc#727821) * windows domain support * KCM support Workspace * tapping default, better config (fate#308149 - addressed by new synaptiks?) * video thumbnailer * notifications cleanup across all apps * disable useless ktip * default window sizing * print-manager plasmoid * QML plasmoids? * netbook edition (fate#308401,fate#308269, total 27 votes) * menu hierarchy cleanup Subpixel hinting * cartman has packages Integration with rest of distro * kde-gtk-config * oxygen-gtk3 * local RPM install * clean up file associations Don't launch gimp from firefox for pdf! * Fix PolicyKit systemsettings module * Look out for bad PolicyKit defaults before release (The 'Linus' syndrome) * Thunderbird/KDE integration (fate#308955, 28 votes)
Stability/Bugs PIM mail loss migration filtering CPU issues (done, right?) mail address autocompletion groups in kaddressbook Apper no kded hangs please Workspace left behind taskbar entries for closed apps (kde#275469) Super Bugreporters' lists (eg Malv) 729892 - PackageKit EULA display (FIXED 12.1) 720746 - kmix CPU usage (11.4 - relevant?) 659153 - Optical drive tray recloses on KDE eject (NOT FIXED 12.1) 725412 - sysctl settings get reset (FIXED 12.1) related: kde#261522,kde#264487 (constant optical spinning due to Solid) 356533 - kmenuedit bugs (NOT FIXED 12.1)
Missing apps * Kamoso (webcam app) - need kglobal key binding to XF86Webcam) * Knights (chess) * Calligra 2.4 (DONE) * Backup app (fate#305394 - backintime? (alin)) * working akonadi-google resource (DONE)
Plasma Active Not shippable alongside normal 4.8 AFAIU Klyde lightweight packaging Need to present changes and merge to KDF Need a -branding package that sets default config so Klyde works for default users when the full set of KDE packages is installed
KSecretService upstream acks not ready, not used, forget about it
KDE Telepathy looking good but good enough for default?
Menu in titlebar Gnome patches won't be merged to factory GTK Need a panel layout to demonstrate it
Plymouth integration kdebase4-workspace patched, should be DONE
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Will Stephenson <wstephenson@suse.de> wrote:
I've been through the lists, the bugs, and the top feature requests, and this is the list of things I have found for us to work on. Please add anything I've missed in reply and I'll add it to the wiki shortly and start assigning people to tasks.
Polish KDM * userlist (bnc#727821) * windows domain support * KCM support Workspace * tapping default, better config (fate#308149 - addressed by new synaptiks?) * video thumbnailer * notifications cleanup across all apps * disable useless ktip * default window sizing * print-manager plasmoid * QML plasmoids? * netbook edition (fate#308401,fate#308269, total 27 votes) * menu hierarchy cleanup Subpixel hinting * cartman has packages Integration with rest of distro * kde-gtk-config * oxygen-gtk3 * local RPM install * clean up file associations Don't launch gimp from firefox for pdf! * Fix PolicyKit systemsettings module * Look out for bad PolicyKit defaults before release (The 'Linus' syndrome) * Thunderbird/KDE integration (fate#308955, 28 votes)
Stability/Bugs PIM mail loss migration filtering CPU issues (done, right?) mail address autocompletion groups in kaddressbook Apper no kded hangs please Workspace left behind taskbar entries for closed apps (kde#275469) Super Bugreporters' lists (eg Malv) 729892 - PackageKit EULA display (FIXED 12.1) 720746 - kmix CPU usage (11.4 - relevant?) 659153 - Optical drive tray recloses on KDE eject (NOT FIXED 12.1) 725412 - sysctl settings get reset (FIXED 12.1) related: kde#261522,kde#264487 (constant optical spinning due to Solid) 356533 - kmenuedit bugs (NOT FIXED 12.1)
Missing apps * Kamoso (webcam app) - need kglobal key binding to XF86Webcam) * Knights (chess) * Calligra 2.4 (DONE) * Backup app (fate#305394 - backintime? (alin)) * working akonadi-google resource (DONE)
Plasma Active Not shippable alongside normal 4.8 AFAIU Klyde lightweight packaging Need to present changes and merge to KDF Need a -branding package that sets default config so Klyde works for default users when the full set of KDE packages is installed
KSecretService upstream acks not ready, not used, forget about it
KDE Telepathy looking good but good enough for default?
Menu in titlebar Gnome patches won't be merged to factory GTK Need a panel layout to demonstrate it
Plymouth integration kdebase4-workspace patched, should be DONE
A few additional things: * I remember there was an idea for 12.1 to use the fake-packman repo to allow KDE libraries and apps (and others) to build against ffmpeg and the like. What happened with that? The flags to build it that way seem to be there, but they aren't enabled. * What about additional patterns? Especially if we are going with a minimal KDE install we will need patterns for different amounts of dependencies, but things like Calligra, Telepathy, education, etc. We also need to update our current patterns and especially pattern naming. For instance it still says "KDE 4.6 Build Dependencies". We should probably remove the version number from all of the patterns and just say "KDE Games", "KDE Build Dependencies", etc. * plasma-mediacenter? If devs keep to their current schedule there should be a stable release before too long. * are there any kde:extra apps that should be moved to KDF? A few possibilities: bangarang, kcm-qt-graphicssystem, kde-odf-thumbnail, kde-thumbnailer-ooxml, nepomukcontroller, partitionmanager, polka, quick-usb-formatter, servicemenu-pdf, vbox-runner. Plasmoids: plasmoid-activitymanager-wheeled, plasmoid-eYaSDP, plasmoid-fancy-tasks (if 2.0 is out), plasmoid-playwolf, plasmoid-smooth-tasks2. * Since KDE4 is default now, as someone else mentioned we should probably change the libreoffice packages libreoffice-kde4/libreoffice-kde to libreoffice-kde/libreoffice-kde3. * What about using the oxygen-kde firefox theme in the mozilla KDE integration packages? -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 19 April 2012 09:33, todd rme <toddrme2178@gmail.com> wrote:
* I remember there was an idea for 12.1 to use the fake-packman repo to allow KDE libraries and apps (and others) to build against ffmpeg and the like. What happened with that? The flags to build it that way seem to be there, but they aren't enabled.
The flags are used for easy linking in Packman (and home:RedDwarf:multimedia*...). But it's still a bad idea to enable them for the packages in the main repository. In most cases they would create an unavoidable dependency to Packman (fakePackman is good enough to build against, but use it at runtime and enjoy the crashes) and Packman could move to a binary incompatible version in any moment.
* are there any kde:extra apps that should be moved to KDF? A few possibilities: bangarang, kcm-qt-graphicssystem, kde-odf-thumbnail, kde-thumbnailer-ooxml, nepomukcontroller, partitionmanager, polka, quick-usb-formatter, servicemenu-pdf, vbox-runner. Plasmoids: plasmoid-activitymanager-wheeled, plasmoid-eYaSDP, plasmoid-fancy-tasks (if 2.0 is out), plasmoid-playwolf, plasmoid-smooth-tasks2.
kdenlive is still in a limbo between finding a real maintainer and sending it to Factory or moving it to kde:extra. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/19/2012 06:13 AM, Cristian Morales Vega wrote:
On 19 April 2012 09:33, todd rme<toddrme2178@gmail.com> wrote:
* I remember there was an idea for 12.1 to use the fake-packman repo to allow KDE libraries and apps (and others) to build against ffmpeg and the like. What happened with that? The flags to build it that way seem to be there, but they aren't enabled.
The flags are used for easy linking in Packman (and home:RedDwarf:multimedia*...). But it's still a bad idea to enable them for the packages in the main repository. In most cases they would create an unavoidable dependency to Packman (fakePackman is good enough to build against, but use it at runtime and enjoy the crashes) and Packman could move to a binary incompatible version in any moment.
* are there any kde:extra apps that should be moved to KDF? A few possibilities: bangarang, kcm-qt-graphicssystem, kde-odf-thumbnail, kde-thumbnailer-ooxml, nepomukcontroller, partitionmanager, polka, quick-usb-formatter, servicemenu-pdf, vbox-runner. Plasmoids: plasmoid-activitymanager-wheeled, plasmoid-eYaSDP, plasmoid-fancy-tasks (if 2.0 is out), plasmoid-playwolf, plasmoid-smooth-tasks2.
kdenlive is still in a limbo between finding a real maintainer and sending it to Factory or moving it to kde:extra.
Can you please include Qtcurve pre-checked with the default installation? Cheers! Roman --------------------------------------------------------------- openSUSE -- Get it! Discover it! Share it! --------------------------------------------------------------- http://linuxcounter.net/ #179293 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch 18 April 2012, 13:27:05 schrieb Will Stephenson:
KDE Telepathy looking good but good enough for default?
Depends. Are you guys willing to push feature updates as regular updates? As "unmaintained" as Kopete is, a bug fix is pushed here and there and shipped as KR point release. KDE Telepathy has nothing like stable branches with bugfix point releases (yet). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/18/2012 01:27 PM, Will Stephenson wrote:
I've been through the lists, the bugs, and the top feature requests, and this is the list of things I have found for us to work on. Please add anything I've missed in reply and I'll add it to the wiki shortly and start assigning people to tasks.
Will, what's the wiki URL? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Will Stephenson <wstephenson@suse.de> wrote:
I've been through the lists, the bugs, and the top feature requests, and this is the list of things I have found for us to work on. Please add anything I've missed in reply and I'll add it to the wiki shortly and start assigning people to tasks.
Polish KDM * userlist (bnc#727821) * windows domain support * KCM support Workspace * tapping default, better config (fate#308149 - addressed by new synaptiks?) * video thumbnailer * notifications cleanup across all apps * disable useless ktip * default window sizing * print-manager plasmoid * QML plasmoids? * netbook edition (fate#308401,fate#308269, total 27 votes) * menu hierarchy cleanup Subpixel hinting * cartman has packages Integration with rest of distro * kde-gtk-config * oxygen-gtk3 * local RPM install * clean up file associations Don't launch gimp from firefox for pdf! * Fix PolicyKit systemsettings module * Look out for bad PolicyKit defaults before release (The 'Linus' syndrome) * Thunderbird/KDE integration (fate#308955, 28 votes)
Stability/Bugs PIM mail loss migration filtering CPU issues (done, right?) mail address autocompletion groups in kaddressbook Apper no kded hangs please Workspace left behind taskbar entries for closed apps (kde#275469) Super Bugreporters' lists (eg Malv) 729892 - PackageKit EULA display (FIXED 12.1) 720746 - kmix CPU usage (11.4 - relevant?) 659153 - Optical drive tray recloses on KDE eject (NOT FIXED 12.1) 725412 - sysctl settings get reset (FIXED 12.1) related: kde#261522,kde#264487 (constant optical spinning due to Solid) 356533 - kmenuedit bugs (NOT FIXED 12.1)
Missing apps * Kamoso (webcam app) - need kglobal key binding to XF86Webcam) * Knights (chess) * Calligra 2.4 (DONE) * Backup app (fate#305394 - backintime? (alin)) * working akonadi-google resource (DONE)
Plasma Active Not shippable alongside normal 4.8 AFAIU Klyde lightweight packaging Need to present changes and merge to KDF Need a -branding package that sets default config so Klyde works for default users when the full set of KDE packages is installed
KSecretService upstream acks not ready, not used, forget about it
KDE Telepathy looking good but good enough for default?
Menu in titlebar Gnome patches won't be merged to factory GTK Need a panel layout to demonstrate it
Plymouth integration kdebase4-workspace patched, should be DONE
I would also like to see about getting pyside shipped. The new version, which I am getting ready now and will submit soon, does away with most of the extra dependencies, just relying on shiboken, qt4, python, and a few other standard packages. -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, On 20 Apr 2012, at 16:41, todd rme wrote:
I would also like to see about getting pyside shipped. The new version, which I am getting ready now and will submit soon, does away with most of the extra dependencies, just relying on shiboken, qt4, python, and a few other standard packages.
I'd also like to see PySide being shipped in future openSUSE releases and I've been receiving tunes of requests from people asking me to push it to Factory for a long time, but the fact is that PySide wasn't real mature at that time and now that it is solid rock in terms of technology it now lacks in terms of support because Nokia decided to abandon supporting ($$) the project. As a (positive) consequence the PySide project decided to move in to be a Qt addon project. However, and even though the OpenBossa guys said they will keep supporting it, it's not the same thing as before. I recommend holding the horses for just a couple more months and see how the flow goes with the project being driven by the ("payless") community. Of course, I understand that only by pushing it into the distribution official packages the PySide project could get a bump and revive enough to keep going. So, mix feelings here (hey, I used to be a small developer and still am maintaining the PySide projects in the home OBS directory! ;-) ) Conclusion: I'm not saying "no!" but to consider the consequences in case the few free *developer* members fail to deliver (please don't read this as harsh words), because after all it would be up to the openSUSE community to support it for the whole openSUSE $version lifetime. Cheers, Carlos Gonçalves-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 18 April 2012 13.27:05 Will Stephenson wrote:
I've been through the lists, the bugs, and the top feature requests, and this is the list of things I have found for us to work on. Please add anything I've missed in reply and I'll add it to the wiki shortly and start assigning people to tasks.
Then perhaps the commit fixing kmix crash is a must to have too https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290742 comment #97 SVN commit 1291315 by esken: Fix crash after multiple volume changes Backport to KDE4.8 branch -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
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