On Friday 30 May 2008, Sven Burmeister wrote:

Hello!

There will be a kde3 bugs triage day. The question is whether bugs that cannot be confirmed for kde4 should be marked as wontfix or whether that would cause a feeling of "kde3 users are not important anymore".

Yes it would

Since I can understand that maintainers want to focus on the new KDE, I would propose to mark all kde3 bugs as wontfix that - cannot be reproduced in kde4 - do not have enough votes - take too much effort to fix.

Too much effort to fix would be more than half an hour of work. Not enough votes may be <10.

What do you think?

I disagree, kde4 as it stands is so completely diferent from kde3.5 (from a user perspective) that I think it is premature to consider a bug in one irrelevant (won't fix) just because it cannot be reproduced in the other. I wouldn't be surprised to see uptake for kde4 in a corporate or even personal setting take as long or longer than the transition from kde xp to vista. (not getting into specific reasons behind this lag.) Word has it that 4.1 should be completely usable as a desktop but expectations often follow reality by a further distance than we would hope. To promote an official position of cutting back support of kde 3.5 (by marking 3.5 only bugs "won't fix) at this time could even lead to a division in the community where it should not exist. Yes it is a division of resources but the alternative could lead to a loss of userbase. -- dh --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Fredag den 30. Maj 2008 11:19:11 skrev Sven Burmeister:

There will be a kde3 bugs triage day. The question is whether bugs that cannot be confirmed for kde4 should be marked as wontfix or whether that would cause a feeling of "kde3 users are not important anymore".

My 2 cents. If important bugs in 11.0 KDE3 turn up, that are relatively simple to fix packaging bugs, they should be fixed, regardless of whether they're reproducible in KDE4.x. As I sincerely hope that most users on 11.0 will use KDE3 for the good of openSUSE. Old bugs, and upstream bugs should be wontfixed unless reproducible in KDE 4.1 imho. Since 11.1 will probably be KDE4.1 only (+ some KDE3 apps/libs), and the release cycle will be very short (5-6 months), KDE3 users really aren't very important starting on June 20 from my perspective. Btw. it's still likely I'll be a KDE3 user myself, not quite decided yet. Actually I also consider KDE4.0 more or less a lost cause. Given the short time until 11.1, and the fact that 4.1 will still be lacking in many areas, I tend to think the KDE-team should put more or less all their effort into 4.1 as soon as 11.0 is released. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org