[opensuse-kde] did you know that kde factory != 4.3.2 ?
perhaps everybody else here is better informed than i am; in that case excuse me for wasting your time please. until a couple hours ago i was under the impression that kde "factory" would contain the recent 4.3.2 release. i was surprised to learn that's not the case. factory is still 4.3.1, while the 4.3.2 release for the various oS versions is located here: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/43/ just in case somebody else suffers from the same illusion or lack of knowledge that i did... -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
phanisvara das wrote:
perhaps everybody else here is better informed than i am; in that case excuse me for wasting your time please.
until a couple hours ago i was under the impression that kde "factory" would contain the recent 4.3.2 release. i was surprised to learn that's not the case. factory is still 4.3.1, while the 4.3.2 release for the various oS versions is located here: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/43/
just in case somebody else suffers from the same illusion or lack of knowledge that i did... Unless I misunderstand, Factory is now past version freeze and will NOT get 4.3.2. openSUSE 11.2 will release with 4.3.1.
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On Wednesday 07 October 2009 07:59:36 pm MasterPatricko wrote:
Unless I misunderstand, Factory is now past version freeze and will NOT get 4.3.2. openSUSE 11.2 will release with 4.3.1.
yes, i understand that. but i'm not participating in the milestone testing cycle (i have a hard time finding any bugs at all, and when i do, they have already been reported). i'm using oS 11.2 as my working environment, and for that it makes sense to upgrade to KDE 4.3.2, since quite a few bugs have been fixed from the previous KDE release. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:29 AM, MasterPatricko
phanisvara das wrote:
perhaps everybody else here is better informed than i am; in that case excuse me for wasting your time please.
until a couple hours ago i was under the impression that kde "factory" would contain the recent 4.3.2 release. i was surprised to learn that's not the case. factory is still 4.3.1, while the 4.3.2 release for the various oS versions is located here: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/43/
just in case somebody else suffers from the same illusion or lack of knowledge that i did... Unless I misunderstand, Factory is now past version freeze and will NOT get 4.3.2. openSUSE 11.2 will release with 4.3.1.
I'd like to say that I think that this is a huge mistake. 4.3.2 was a big stability improvement for me personally over 4.3.1. 11.2 may be in "version freeze" but isn't that bendable a bit? Especially for something like KDE - a core component, *and* 4.3.1 is a bug fix release, not a new-feature release. It'd be kind of embarrassing for 11.2 to ship with 4.3.1, IMO. -- Jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On 10/07/2009 05:17 PM, Jon Nelson wrote:
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:29 AM, MasterPatricko
wrote: phanisvara das wrote: I'd like to say that I think that this is a huge mistake. 4.3.2 was a big stability improvement for me personally over 4.3.1. 11.2 may be in "version freeze" but isn't that bendable a bit? Especially for something like KDE - a core component, *and* 4.3.1 is a bug fix release, not a new-feature release.
It'd be kind of embarrassing for 11.2 to ship with 4.3.1, IMO.
While I have not used 4.3.2 yet, I understand well what kind of differences the minor version bumps can bring (esp with the kde 4 series). I also firmly believe that the failure to adopt the inconveniently timed stable releases upstream is masochistic and a down right disservice to users of all ranges. And by cherrypicking patches you're just going to make it harder to report bugs to upstream and communicate with developers. This policy developed to help the QA and stablization is down right ridiculous at times and there should be things that are whitelisted albeit with distro side evaluation of course. But don't fail to include it just because something didn't line up with your artificial deadlines. And while something is better than nothing, another repository under KDE:/ for people like me is not the kinda solution I want to see. You're OpenSUSE, right? Be different from the rest, just like you say you are. -Jason -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 08 of October 2009, Jon Nelson wrote:
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:29 AM, MasterPatricko
wrote: Unless I misunderstand, Factory is now past version freeze and will NOT get 4.3.2. openSUSE 11.2 will release with 4.3.1.
I'd like to say that I think that this is a huge mistake. 4.3.2 was a big stability improvement for me personally over 4.3.1. 11.2 may be in "version freeze" but isn't that bendable a bit? Especially for something like KDE - a core component, *and* 4.3.1 is a bug fix release, not a new-feature release.
Actually 11.2 will ship almost-4.3.2, we kept updating until the freeze, which was only a few days before the 4.3.2 release. And we will not do mass updates anymore, only specific bugfixes. Even bugfix releases can introduce new problems (there is at least one know regression in 4.3.2). -- Lubos Lunak KDE developer -------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. e-mail: l.lunak@suse.cz , l.lunak@kde.org Lihovarska 1060/12 tel: +420 284 084 672 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Onsdag den 7. oktober 2009 16:09:16 skrev phanisvara das:
perhaps everybody else here is better informed than i am; in that case excuse me for wasting your time please.
until a couple hours ago i was under the impression that kde "factory" would contain the recent 4.3.2 release. i was surprised to learn that's not the case. factory is still 4.3.1, while the 4.3.2 release for the various oS versions is located here: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/43/
just in case somebody else suffers from the same illusion or lack of knowledge that i did...
Factory = openSUSE development. 11.2 is frozen now. After November 12, KDE:/KDE4:/Factory/ will become a wild bleeding edge out of control beast again until 11.3 is frozen at some point and so forth. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 07 October 2009 08:29:57 pm Martin Schlander wrote:
11.2 is frozen now. After November 12, KDE:/KDE4:/Factory/ will become a wild bleeding edge out of control beast again until 11.3 is frozen at some point and so forth.
i'm not planning to use factory after the release of 11.2 -- at least not for a long while. i came to factory with the idea of helping to find bugs. instead i found a system that's -- at least for me -- stable for all practical purposes. i'm going to use factory until & after it's release, with whatever version of KDE suits my purpose best. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 07 October 2009 08:47:34 pm phanisvara das wrote:
i'm going to use factory until & after it's release...
sorry, that was supposed to be "i'm going to use oS 11.2 until & after it's release..." -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
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Jason Newton
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Jon Nelson
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Lubos Lunak
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Martin Schlander
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MasterPatricko
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phanisvara das