[opensuse-kde] Kate/kwrite printconfig defaults
In the print menu are the printmargins defined in inches, how can I change this default in mm ? The default margins are defaulted to 0.14 inch how can i set another value as DEFAULT. Does anybody know? Thanks, Hans -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/08/2019 21:19, JJM de Faber wrote:
In the print menu are the printmargins defined in inches, how can I change this default in mm ?
The default margins are defaulted to 0.14 inch how can i set another value as DEFAULT.
Does anybody know?
I don't know for sure but it may depend on your Formats settings. Go to System Settings -> Regional Settings -> Formats, check Detailed Settings and set Measurement Units to whatever country preference. May need to relogin for the change to be visible. gumb -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Right answer, regional settings was the right place to change inches in mm. I am stil looking how to change the default for the margins. Thanks, Hans On 12-08-19 21:25, gumb wrote:
On 12/08/2019 21:19, JJM de Faber wrote:
In the print menu are the printmargins defined in inches, how can I change this default in mm ?
The default margins are defaulted to 0.14 inch how can i set another value as DEFAULT.
Does anybody know?
I don't know for sure but it may depend on your Formats settings. Go to System Settings -> Regional Settings -> Formats, check Detailed Settings and set Measurement Units to whatever country preference. May need to relogin for the change to be visible.
gumb -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
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Right answer, regional settings was the right place to change inches in mm.
I am stil looking how to change the default for the margins.
May be hard coded on the printer definition, system wide. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXVK0jRwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfV5cQAniafkZVJ/U2cEqVkKN1G AXC05SubAJ49pHEpUtHzMxNUEGGCg90dV0AdIA== =evje -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 13-08-19 15:01, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On Tuesday, 2019-08-13 at 14:51 +0200, JJM de Faber wrote:
Right answer, regional settings was the right place to change inches in mm.
I am stil looking how to change the default for the margins.
May be hard coded on the printer definition, system wide.
No, only kate and kwrite have this size fixed default margins. If its hardcoded its in kate/kwrite. Hardcoded default margins in a programmers tool ,I can't believe that.
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On Tuesday, 2019-08-13 at 14:51 +0200, JJM de Faber wrote:
Right answer, regional settings was the right place to change inches in mm.
I am stil looking how to change the default for the margins.
May be hard coded on the printer definition, system wide.
No, only kate and kwrite have this size fixed default margins.
If its hardcoded its in kate/kwrite.
Hardcoded default margins in a programmers tool ,I can't believe that.
Maybe I misunderstood the problem. I'm thinking rather of my experience with tools like LibreOffice: I can change the margins but not beyond what the printer itself defines. As you talk of 0.14 inches, that looks to me as a printer default. For a programmer editor, the margin would be in chars, not inches. Could you say where exactly you see the margin size, in kate, for instance? And what type of file are you editing (it sets the mode). Because I just edited a plain text file and I see no margin. However, when going to print there is indeed a margin which is set in print preview, page setup, and in my case it is 4.35 mm or 0.17" (and can not be decreased). This is indeed a printer margin, what kate thinks is the minimal margin of my printer. Looking at LO writer, it thinks the printer margin is 0.42 cm, which is very similar to what Kate thinks, although it allows me to override (and then the printer itself cuts when actually printing). -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 14-08-19 14:46, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Tuesday, 2019-08-13 at 14:51 +0200, JJM de Faber wrote:
Right answer, regional settings was the right place to change inches in mm.
I am stil looking how to change the default for the margins. May be hard coded on the printer definition, system wide.
No, only kate and kwrite have this size fixed default margins. If its hardcoded its in kate/kwrite. Hardcoded default margins in a programmers tool ,I can't believe that.
Maybe I misunderstood the problem. I'm thinking rather of my experience with tools like LibreOffice: I can change the margins but not beyond what the printer itself defines.
As you talk of 0.14 inches, that looks to me as a printer default. For a programmer editor, the margin would be in chars, not inches.
Could you say where exactly you see the margin size, in kate, for instance? And what type of file are you editing (it sets the mode).
Because I just edited a plain text file and I see no margin. However, when going to print there is indeed a margin which is set in print preview, page setup, and in my case it is 4.35 mm or 0.17" (and can not be decreased). This is indeed a printer margin, what kate thinks is the minimal margin of my printer.
Looking at LO writer, it thinks the printer margin is 0.42 cm, which is very similar to what Kate thinks, although it allows me to override (and then the printer itself cuts when actually printing).
Wrong discussion, a simple ascii file has no formatting, I can set any margin from 0 to whole page and the printer prints exactly as ordered. I only want to change the useless default !!! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, Am Mittwoch, 14. August 2019, 15:26:59 CEST schrieb JJM de Faber:
On 14-08-19 14:46, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Tuesday, 2019-08-13 at 14:51 +0200, JJM de Faber wrote:
Right answer, regional settings was the right place to change inches in mm.
I am stil looking how to change the default for the margins. May be hard coded on the printer definition, system wide.
No, only kate and kwrite have this size fixed default margins. If its hardcoded its in kate/kwrite. Hardcoded default margins in a programmers tool ,I can't believe that.
Maybe I misunderstood the problem. I'm thinking rather of my experience with tools like LibreOffice: I can change the margins but not beyond what the printer itself defines.
As you talk of 0.14 inches, that looks to me as a printer default. For a programmer editor, the margin would be in chars, not inches.
Could you say where exactly you see the margin size, in kate, for instance? And what type of file are you editing (it sets the mode).
Because I just edited a plain text file and I see no margin. However, when going to print there is indeed a margin which is set in print preview, page setup, and in my case it is 4.35 mm or 0.17" (and can not be decreased). This is indeed a printer margin, what kate thinks is the minimal margin of my printer.
Looking at LO writer, it thinks the printer margin is 0.42 cm, which is very similar to what Kate thinks, although it allows me to override (and then the printer itself cuts when actually printing).
Wrong discussion, a simple ascii file has no formatting, I can set any margin from 0 to whole page and the printer prints exactly as ordered.
I only want to change the useless default !!!
which margin are you talking about? The one in the print dialog, "Layout" -> "Border", the one in the printer properties dialog "Page" -> "Margins" or something else entirely? Cheers, Fabian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 14/08/2019 15.39, Fabian Vogt wrote:
Hi,
Am Mittwoch, 14. August 2019, 15:26:59 CEST schrieb JJM de Faber:
On 14-08-19 14:46, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Tuesday, 2019-08-13 at 14:51 +0200, JJM de Faber wrote:
> Right answer, regional settings was the right place to change inches > in mm. > > I am stil looking how to change the default for the margins. May be hard coded on the printer definition, system wide.
No, only kate and kwrite have this size fixed default margins. If its hardcoded its in kate/kwrite. Hardcoded default margins in a programmers tool ,I can't believe that.
Maybe I misunderstood the problem. I'm thinking rather of my experience with tools like LibreOffice: I can change the margins but not beyond what the printer itself defines.
As you talk of 0.14 inches, that looks to me as a printer default. For a programmer editor, the margin would be in chars, not inches.
Could you say where exactly you see the margin size, in kate, for instance? And what type of file are you editing (it sets the mode).
Because I just edited a plain text file and I see no margin. However, when going to print there is indeed a margin which is set in print preview, page setup, and in my case it is 4.35 mm or 0.17" (and can not be decreased). This is indeed a printer margin, what kate thinks is the minimal margin of my printer.
Looking at LO writer, it thinks the printer margin is 0.42 cm, which is very similar to what Kate thinks, although it allows me to override (and then the printer itself cuts when actually printing).
Wrong discussion, a simple ascii file has no formatting, I can set any margin from 0 to whole page and the printer prints exactly as ordered.
I only want to change the useless default !!!
kate does not do simple ascii printing. It is converted to postscript and beautifies it (similar to "a2ps"). It does not send ascii to the printer, it sends postscript. I just tried, I wrote a line of text and printed it. Kate added a header with date at the left, page number at the right, a line below it, then the text line I wrote, and finally another line at the bottom. I can see that both lines stop at approximately 4mm from the paper border, so indeed Kate is applying the printer margin of 4mm.
which margin are you talking about? The one in the print dialog, "Layout" -> "Border", the one in the printer properties dialog "Page" -> "Margins" or something else entirely?
Yes, that is the question. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
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