[opensuse-kde] KMail2 + Akonadi : need facts and feedback
I would like to migrate my email to kmail2. I've tested with a small account and found 5407 message stored in ./local/share/akonadi/file_db_data ? My concern start here, in any filesystem, there's limits in the number of object inside the same folders. For us, it's quite high before ext4/btrfs/xfs will complain, but after a certain amount, penalty perfs occurs. That's why database, or cache server limit the number of object per folders for example, and why people that never purge their primary inbox suffer under imap. (I wouldn't think about a poor man with kde4/pim stack installed on a 16GB fat32 phone card) I've to synchronize my two main accounts which contain each something like ~580000 messages each (Yeap a lot, but that all my emails stored from the beginning of 1994) How will react akonadi in a such case ? Did someone on the list has already setup a such amount of file ? I don't know the developers motivation (apart the fact to not know how to do better) and I don't understand why they don't replicate the folders structure I've on the server. Thanks for your feedback. -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On 08/20/2011 05:42 PM, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
I would like to migrate my email to kmail2. I've tested with a small account and found 5407 message stored in ./local/share/akonadi/file_db_data ?
My concern start here, in any filesystem, there's limits in the number of object inside the same folders. For us, it's quite high before ext4/btrfs/xfs will complain, but after a certain amount, penalty perfs occurs. That's why database, or cache server limit the number of object per folders for example, and why people that never purge their primary inbox suffer under imap. (I wouldn't think about a poor man with kde4/pim stack installed on a 16GB fat32 phone card)
I've to synchronize my two main accounts which contain each something like ~580000 messages each (Yeap a lot, but that all my emails stored from the beginning of 1994)
How will react akonadi in a such case ?
Did someone on the list has already setup a such amount of file ? I don't know the developers motivation (apart the fact to not know how to do better) and I don't understand why they don't replicate the folders structure I've on the server.
Thanks for your feedback.
Come on guys, nobody has a heavy email account and use kmail2 ? -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 20:41:08 +0530, Bruno Friedmann <bruno@ioda-net.ch> wrote:
Come on guys, nobody has a heavy email account and use kmail2 ?
i do, but for years i've been colleting my mail via fetchmail from different accounts, incl. gmail, making it into a large local dovecot account, with which neither kmail2 / akonadi nor any other mail clients have any problems. before that i tried synching my medium to large gmail account with different clients, incl. kmail(1), but this often led to problems because of my unreliable internet connection. not withstanding better internet infrastructure in most places, i'd recommend using fetchmail in this way, because it's always easier, faster, and more reliable to access a local mail server. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On 08/27/2011 05:27 PM, phanisvara das wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 20:41:08 +0530, Bruno Friedmann <bruno@ioda-net.ch> wrote:
Come on guys, nobody has a heavy email account and use kmail2 ?
i do, but for years i've been colleting my mail via fetchmail from different accounts, incl. gmail, making it into a large local dovecot account, with which neither kmail2 / akonadi nor any other mail clients have any problems. before that i tried synching my medium to large gmail account with different clients, incl. kmail(1), but this often led to problems because of my unreliable internet connection.
not withstanding better internet infrastructure in most places, i'd recommend using fetchmail in this way, because it's always easier, faster, and more reliable to access a local mail server.
Thx for the report, but normally I've already all the mail synchronized for offline usage. anyway I will start to move some of the account to kmail/akonadi and see what will happen :-) -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:05:12 +0530, Bruno Friedmann <bruno@ioda-net.ch> wrote:
Thx for the report, but normally I've already all the mail synchronized for offline usage. anyway I will start to move some of the account to kmail/akonadi and see what will happen
yes, that's the idea i guess, but it leaves you vulnerable to any hiccups your mail client may suffer. you got all your mail in kmail, so if that messes up somehow (which does happen), you got to download it from google again (hopefully not having deleted it from there). with my arrangements, kmail (or whatever client) only maintain their own cache of the mail, but the actual mail is safe & easy to back up. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On 08/27/2011 05:43 PM, phanisvara das wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:05:12 +0530, Bruno Friedmann <bruno@ioda-net.ch> wrote:
Thx for the report, but normally I've already all the mail synchronized for offline usage. anyway I will start to move some of the account to kmail/akonadi and see what will happen
yes, that's the idea i guess, but it leaves you vulnerable to any hiccups your mail client may suffer. you got all your mail in kmail, so if that messes up somehow (which does happen), you got to download it from google again (hopefully not having deleted it from there). with my arrangements, kmail (or whatever client) only maintain their own cache of the mail, but the actual mail is safe & easy to back up.
Except if fetchmail start to bug :-) As most of my email are on my own server with backups, I would say I'm pretty safe of disaster on that side. And then my home is also backup ... -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:48, Bruno Friedmann <bruno@...> wrote:
On 08/27/2011 05:43 PM, phanisvara das wrote:
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:05:12 +0530, Bruno Friedmann <bruno@ioda-net.ch> wrote:
Thx for the report, but normally I've already all the mail synchronized for offline usage. anyway I will start to move some of the account to kmail/akonadi and see what will happen
yes, that's the idea i guess, but it leaves you vulnerable to any hiccups your mail client may suffer. you got all your mail in kmail, so if that messes up somehow (which does happen), you got to download it from google again (hopefully not having deleted it from there). with my arrangements, kmail (or whatever client) only maintain their own cache of the mail, but the actual mail is safe & easy to back up.
Except if fetchmail start to bug :-)
There are newer replacements for fetchmail, for example: http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/ (obs:/server:mail) a full replacement, written in python, and of course the many imap sync tools (offlineimap, imap-sync, etc) Maybe there should be a push to include getmail into Factory, to give it more publicity, fetchmail gets on "aged" these days. Same (-"aged"-) is true for procmail, but there it's less clear on the replacements in waiting. (Correct me if I'm wrong, please) Cheers, Yamaban. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On zaterdag 27 augustus 2011 23:01:53 Yamaban wrote:
There are newer replacements for fetchmail, for example: http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/ (obs:/server:mail) a full replacement, written in python, and of course the many imap sync tools (offlineimap, imap-sync, etc)
Maybe there should be a push to include getmail into Factory, to give it more publicity, fetchmail gets on "aged" these days.
Same (-"aged"-) is true for procmail, but there it's less clear on the replacements in waiting. (Correct me if I'm wrong, please)
Cheers, Yamaban.
Using an account of the type "Disconnected IMAP" in KMail also gives you messages which are locally stored, but are also on your IMAP server. Whatever change you do on your local messages are later synchronized with the IMAP server at the moment you have a network connection again and vice versa. So when you loose your IMAP server, you can copy the locally stored messages to the folders of another account in KMail. -- fr.gr. Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Am Samstag, 20. August 2011, 17:42:54 schrieb Bruno Friedmann:
I would like to migrate my email to kmail2. I've tested with a small account and found 5407 message stored in ./local/share/akonadi/file_db_data ?
I am not sure what the current state is, but I would say,at least with a pop3 account, it is a bug that mails are stored there, because when I initially migrated to kmail2 the local mails where saved in ~/.local/share/.local- mail.directory/ and using my local folder structure. And not all my mails are in ~/.local/share/akonadi/file_db_data There is also a bug report about it with more details: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=271231 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
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Yamaban