kmail: IMAP and preview pane
Hi dear list members! Does anybody of you use kmail with IMAP? Since KDE 3.3.1 (I think) I have the problem, that (approx.) every 10th mail I select, the preview is not shown, the preview page remains empty. I now use kde 3.3.2 (actual SuSE supplemetary for SuSE 9.1) and the problem persists. There are no messages on stdout or stderr which seem to belong to the problem. I tried with a completely new user to check if it is an update problem, but it isn't. Any thoughts about that? Thanks for helping! Best, Daniel -- +++ Sparen Sie mit GMX DSL +++ http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl AKTION f�r Wechsler: DSL-Tarife ab 3,99 EUR/Monat + Startguthaben
Daniel, El Lun 27 Dic 2004 09:53, Daniel Eckl escribió:
Does anybody of you use kmail with IMAP?
I do.
Since KDE 3.3.1 (I think) I have the problem, that (approx.) every 10th mail I select, the preview is not shown, the preview page remains empty. I now use kde 3.3.2 (actual SuSE supplemetary for SuSE 9.1) and the problem persists.
I have been seeing the same problem since before 3.3.1, if I remember correctly. I haven't been able to reliantly reproduce the situation which triggers the problem, but when it occurs, I have learned to close KMail and start it again. This usually resolves the IMAP preview problem. Right-clicking on the IMAP folder and selecting 'Refresh folder list' doesn't help, but I have always assumed it was a folder cache related problem. BTW, I am running a Cyrus 2.1.12 server on the same box where I see the KMail problem. Sorry I can't be of more help, I certainly would like to learn as well what's at the root of this problem. Regards, -- Andreas Philipp Noema Ltda. Bogotá, D.C. - Colombia
Hi Andreas! Thank you for your reply. I will attach an ethereal as soon I have time for that. But I don't believe it's an server based problem. I have the problem with a cyrus 2.1.15 running on another machine as well as with a cyrus 2.2.3 running on localhost. But it's only an IMAP fetch call which should be used. This is so essential to IMAP, that this cannot be a server problem IMHO. I assume a timing problem. Either while accessing the mail on the server or while accessing the local copy in the cache. The chance for me to get this problem is much higher when I consecutively click on some messages rather quick. Greets, Daniel
Daniel,
El Lun 27 Dic 2004 09:53, Daniel Eckl escribió:
Does anybody of you use kmail with IMAP?
I do.
Since KDE 3.3.1 (I think) I have the problem, that (approx.) every 10th mail I select, the preview is not shown, the preview page remains empty. I now use kde 3.3.2 (actual SuSE supplemetary for SuSE 9.1) and the problem persists.
I have been seeing the same problem since before 3.3.1, if I remember correctly. I haven't been able to reliantly reproduce the situation which triggers the problem, but when it occurs, I have learned to close KMail and start it again. This usually resolves the IMAP preview problem.
Right-clicking on the IMAP folder and selecting 'Refresh folder list' doesn't help, but I have always assumed it was a folder cache related problem.
BTW, I am running a Cyrus 2.1.12 server on the same box where I see the KMail problem.
Sorry I can't be of more help, I certainly would like to learn as well what's at the root of this problem.
Regards, -- Andreas Philipp Noema Ltda. Bogotá, D.C. - Colombia
-- +++ Sparen Sie mit GMX DSL +++ http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl AKTION für Wechsler: DSL-Tarife ab 3,99 EUR/Monat + Startguthaben
Daniel, El Lun 27 Dic 2004 10:29, Daniel Eckl escribió:
I assume a timing problem. Either while accessing the mail on the server or while accessing the local copy in the cache.
That's what I suspect too - that it may be related to KMail failing to access the local cache. That's what I meant when I said it seemed to me being related to a folder cache problem. I have never had to restart the cyrus server to get the message bodies properly displayed, so I agree with you that it is rather not related to the server side of IMAP.
The chance for me to get this problem is much higher when I consecutively click on some messages rather quick.
I usually navigate along my messages using the arrow buttons and I do this rather quickly, but I am not able to reproduce the problem just like that. It will eventually come to pass, after hours or even days running KMail just fine.
Greets, Daniel
Back yo you! -- Andreas Philipp Noema Ltda. Bogotá, D.C. - Colombia
Okay, my turn ;) I sniffed the IMAP connection with ethereal and the mail which should be previewed is fetched correctly (first the headers, then the size tag, then the body structure, etc.pp.). Everything's fine. Just the fetched content is not viewed. So it's not the server, nor the client's fetching commands. Now it goes deep into kmail and that's where I get lost...... Daniel Am Montag, 27. Dezember 2004 16:45 schrieb Andreas Philipp:
Daniel,
El Lun 27 Dic 2004 10:29, Daniel Eckl escribió:
I assume a timing problem. Either while accessing the mail on the server or while accessing the local copy in the cache.
That's what I suspect too - that it may be related to KMail failing to access the local cache. That's what I meant when I said it seemed to me being related to a folder cache problem. I have never had to restart the cyrus server to get the message bodies properly displayed, so I agree with you that it is rather not related to the server side of IMAP.
The chance for me to get this problem is much higher when I consecutively click on some messages rather quick.
I usually navigate along my messages using the arrow buttons and I do this rather quickly, but I am not able to reproduce the problem just like that. It will eventually come to pass, after hours or even days running KMail just fine.
Greets, Daniel
Back yo you! -- Andreas Philipp Noema Ltda. Bogotá, D.C. - Colombia
Daniel, El Lun 27 Dic 2004 14:37, Daniel Eckl escribió:
So it's not the server, nor the client's fetching commands.
Now it goes deep into kmail and that's where I get lost......
Have you checked the KDE bugzilla link provided by Matthias Homann? He was the original reporter of that bug, and from his description in bugzilla I believe it is the same faulty behaviour we are observing on our desktops. It seems as if the bug had been corrected; patched code has been committed to cvs. All the best, -- Andreas Philipp Noema Ltda. Bogotá, D.C. - Colombia
Hi Andreas! I am just building patched versions of kdepim3-3.3.2-3 with the only change is the patch in the kde bugreport. After build is complete, I will test some minutes if the error is gone. If this test succeeds, is anyone willing to host the src.rpm and a i386.rpm built on SuSE 9.1? Best, Daniel Am Montag, 27. Dezember 2004 21:32 schrieb Andreas Philipp:
Daniel,
El Lun 27 Dic 2004 14:37, Daniel Eckl escribió:
So it's not the server, nor the client's fetching commands.
Now it goes deep into kmail and that's where I get lost......
Have you checked the KDE bugzilla link provided by Matthias Homann? He was the original reporter of that bug, and from his description in bugzilla I believe it is the same faulty behaviour we are observing on our desktops. It seems as if the bug had been corrected; patched code has been committed to cvs.
All the best, -- Andreas Philipp Noema Ltda. Bogotá, D.C. - Colombia
Okay, the tests were successful. I have an offer for hosting it. As soon as you can get the rpms and srpm, I will write a mail to the list. But I think that will be tomorrow at least. But let's see how far I get with the signing process. :) Thank you all and have a good time! Daniel Am Montag, 27. Dezember 2004 21:47 schrieb Daniel Eckl:
Hi Andreas!
I am just building patched versions of kdepim3-3.3.2-3 with the only change is the patch in the kde bugreport.
After build is complete, I will test some minutes if the error is gone.
If this test succeeds, is anyone willing to host the src.rpm and a i386.rpm built on SuSE 9.1?
Best, Daniel
Am Montag, 27. Dezember 2004 21:32 schrieb Andreas Philipp:
Daniel,
El Lun 27 Dic 2004 14:37, Daniel Eckl escribió:
So it's not the server, nor the client's fetching commands.
Now it goes deep into kmail and that's where I get lost......
Have you checked the KDE bugzilla link provided by Matthias Homann? He was the original reporter of that bug, and from his description in bugzilla I believe it is the same faulty behaviour we are observing on our desktops. It seems as if the bug had been corrected; patched code has been committed to cvs.
All the best, -- Andreas Philipp Noema Ltda. Bogotá, D.C. - Colombia
Daniel Eckl sagte:
Hi dear list members!
Does anybody of you use kmail with IMAP?
Since KDE 3.3.1 (I think) I have the problem, that (approx.) every 10th mail I select, the preview is not shown, the preview page remains empty.
its already known in kde bugzilla, seems to be a real kmail bug. see http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94184 bye, MH
I must have choosen the wrong keywords when I searched bugs.kde.org. Thanks for the info! Now I know what's going on :) All the best, Daniel Am Montag, 27. Dezember 2004 17:26 schrieb Mathias Homann:
Daniel Eckl sagte:
Hi dear list members!
Does anybody of you use kmail with IMAP?
Since KDE 3.3.1 (I think) I have the problem, that (approx.) every 10th mail I select, the preview is not shown, the preview page remains empty.
its already known in kde bugzilla, seems to be a real kmail bug. see http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94184
bye, MH
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