Hi, I have some complains about konqueror, may be there are some hints what to do. I am a long term KDE user and I am pleased with the overall behaviour. But I think konqueror is not really stable since it switched to KDE-3. In KDE-3.0.0 it was rather horribly. In 3.0.1 the crash frequency has been reduced a lot, 3.0.2 has not improved the crash behaviour in my SuSE-8.0 enviroment. At least 3-7 times a day it crashes as a webbrowser and roughly one times as a filemanager. I am quite confident, that it is not related to any of my hardware configurations, because it appears of several completely different machines. Especially my wife is constantly complaining about konqueror-webbrowser. So she switched to mozilla or netscape-4.79, which are much much more stable. Personllay, I am not interested in switching, because I really like the features of konqueror. In my point of view it is much more important to have a real stable application, than an application which has a score of features but which crashes frequently, when using them. So I really, really, hope that konqueror becomes soon stable. Is it a remedy to compile from CVS, and if from which branch, and is it possible to compile only konqueror or at least only one package? Best regards, Michael
At least 3-7 times a day it crashes as a webbrowser and roughly one times as a filemanager.
Yep, that's my only major gripe with KDE 3.0.x is Konqueror as a browser. I've done the conversion and switched to Mozilla 1.1-alpha. Actually the tabbed browsing on it has made me quite the happy surfer. Konqueror in KDE 3.1 is supposed to have tabbed browsing. From what I understand, you can see this in the CVS version, though I haven't tried it. As for crashing, I've looked through the "plans" for 3.0 and 3.1: http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.1-features.html According to that page, 3.1 includes some kind of crash recovery system (that's already finished according to the page), but it says nothing about fixing these random crashes. My guess is it's something like in Opera. (If Opera crashes, it asks you if you want to start where you left off at the crash when you restart.) But that's only a guess. I've wanted to send bug reports about this, but it's just impossible when it crashes when viewing random pages at random times. There's some serious issue in the background of the program doing it, not web pages themselves. I still use it for file managing, and it only crashes maybe once a week as a file manager. It's also easier to view FTP sites in it than in Mozzy. I don't think I could go back to Konqueror now though. I like the Bookmarks Sidebar too much in Mozzy. Makes it so much easier to access sites. Konq can show bookmarks in a sidebar, but they're not editable. End babbling. ;-) Later, Joe "Flame" Sullivan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Firechild Web Design and CGI Scripting Services http://firechild.net Secretary, World Association of Internet Marketing http://waim.org Webmaster, Amerikanska - For Americans In Sweden http://amerikanska.com Meta-editor, Open Directory Project http://dmoz.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Monday 08 July 2002 14:25, Joe Sullivan wrote:
At least 3-7 times a day it crashes as a webbrowser and roughly one times as a filemanager.
Yep, that's my only major gripe with KDE 3.0.x is Konqueror as a browser.
I've done the conversion and switched to Mozilla 1.1-alpha. Actually the tabbed browsing on it has made me quite the happy surfer.
Opera has it (the MDI interface, and the bookmark sidebar etc.) a long time already, and the Linux versions are really great. I often have 10 - 20 sites open there and almost no crash. I see the same crashes with Konqi, but anyway, there is Opera, which seems to be really committed to Linux, and is working great. It would be nice if Konqu would not crash as a file browser though. It made me testing Krusader, and I like it! So while it (Konquis crashes) is a pity, it is no big deal. KDE3.02 rocks, with a little help of some friends ;-) Regards, Matt T.
Konqueror in KDE 3.1 is supposed to have tabbed browsing. From what I understand, you can see this in the CVS version, though I haven't tried it.
As for crashing, I've looked through the "plans" for 3.0 and 3.1: http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.1-features.html
According to that page, 3.1 includes some kind of crash recovery system (that's already finished according to the page), but it says nothing about fixing these random crashes. My guess is it's something like in Opera. (If Opera crashes, it asks you if you want to start where you left off at the crash when you restart.) But that's only a guess.
I've wanted to send bug reports about this, but it's just impossible when it crashes when viewing random pages at random times. There's some serious issue in the background of the program doing it, not web pages themselves.
I still use it for file managing, and it only crashes maybe once a week as a file manager. It's also easier to view FTP sites in it than in Mozzy.
I don't think I could go back to Konqueror now though. I like the Bookmarks Sidebar too much in Mozzy. Makes it so much easier to access sites. Konq can show bookmarks in a sidebar, but they're not editable.
End babbling. ;-)
Later, Joe "Flame" Sullivan --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Firechild Web Design and CGI Scripting Services http://firechild.net Secretary, World Association of Internet Marketing http://waim.org Webmaster, Amerikanska - For Americans In Sweden http://amerikanska.com Meta-editor, Open Directory Project http://dmoz.org --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------
Hi <ad> Did you ever tried Opera? I once did, and since that day i am addicted to this browser. It has some very nice features and is really fast! I dont use anything else to surf the web. Give it a try! </ad> :-) greetings, Philipp
On Monday 08 July 2002 12:31, Philipp Gruemmer wrote:
<ad> Did you ever tried Opera?
Yes of course I tried, but as I stated I am really happy with the features of Konqui. I have a bookmark toolbar with only the favicon of my most often visited sites. I can adjust the toolbars as I like, I am using the different view-profiles (webmin, ntop, etc ...) with different settings of toolbars for the different purposes. I am using the web-archives feature. I can adjust the sizes of toolbars, which is important for me, because I have a notebook and therefore try to save as much as possible space on my desktop. In opera I have in addition an advertisement window which in also need some space. Also I am not a fan of tabbed browsing. I am using the kicker plug in of KDE either as an extension (taskbar) or directly, which together is very similar to a tabbed browsing. So, I really want to stick to konqueror, the only thing .... Thank you, Michael
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