I use Suse 9.1, but I'm wondering why you wouldn't want to use yast for for setting up your printer. I use it at a Windows-based office to print to both network and local printers and Yast made it a piece of cake. Eric: I am trying to set up a HP PSC 2110 all in one Printer, Copier, Scanner, and
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 09 June 2004 07:15 am, Eric Jahn wrote: the all in one machine use HPOJ driver and the setup instruction say to use webmin (ie: localhost:631) and specificly caution against using Yast or Kde. It also cautions against using a USB device as the connection for the printer. The connection device in my case is ptal mlc:usb:PSC_2100_Series . This connection device is only seen by webmin and not Yast or KDE printer set up. - -- Yours, Ralph. It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed SuSE Linux version 9.1 Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt Jabber ralphdewitt GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key fingerprint = DE4D 6225 A558 A2B9 8DEC 7E94 BB6F 435C 0DE2 085D 03E7 Kernel version 2.6.4-54.5-default Current Linux uptime: 5 days 14 hours 22 minutes. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAx2uHu29DXA3iCF0RArezAJ9FlkprQBnicve1cZPUArFpPgRVegCfT+NV KiSuaaBhdm+rGekxwwb8K4U= =3mfp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Ralph De Witt wrote:
On Wednesday 09 June 2004 07:15 am, Eric Jahn wrote:
I use Suse 9.1, but I'm wondering why you wouldn't want to use yast for for setting up your printer. I use it at a Windows-based office to print to both network and local printers and Yast made it a piece of cake.
Eric: I am trying to set up a HP PSC 2110 all in one Printer, Copier, Scanner, and the all in one machine use HPOJ driver and the setup instruction say to use webmin (ie: localhost:631) and specificly caution against using Yast or Kde. It also cautions against using a USB device as the connection for the printer. The connection device in my case is ptal mlc:usb:PSC_2100_Series . This connection device is only seen by webmin and not Yast or KDE printer set up.
This is interesting (I had a similar fight with SuSE 9.0 and an all-in-one from HP). Could you please tell me where you found those instructions? I'm about to re-install that system with SuSE 9.1 (yes, not upgrade) and although I hope the problem has been addressed it's always a good idea to have a backup solution ;-). As an aside - wouldn't it be good if all those scanners and devices would have their buttons work under Linux? Regards, /// P ///
Ralph De Witt wrote:
On Wednesday 09 June 2004 07:15 am, Eric Jahn wrote:
I use Suse 9.1, but I'm wondering why you wouldn't want to use yast for for setting up your printer. I use it at a Windows-based office to print to both network and local printers and Yast made it a piece of cake.
Eric: I am trying to set up a HP PSC 2110 all in one Printer, Copier, Scanner, and the all in one machine use HPOJ driver and the setup instruction say to use webmin (ie: localhost:631) and specificly caution against using Yast or Kde. It also cautions against using a USB device as the connection for the printer. The connection device in my case is ptal mlc:usb:PSC_2100_Series . This connection device is only seen by webmin and not Yast or KDE printer set up.
This is interesting (I had a similar fight with SuSE 9.0 and an all-in-one from HP). Could you please tell me where you found those instructions? I'm about to re-install that system with SuSE 9.1 (yes, not upgrade) and although I hope the problem has been addressed it's always a good idea to have a backup solution ;-).
As an aside - wouldn't it be good if all those scanners and devices would have their buttons work under Linux?
Regards, /// P /// Peter: I believe the instructions were in the hpoj documentation. From the HPOJ site. "The hpoj setup and reference documentation is now found in HTML format in the "doc" subdirectory of the source package. To get started, simply
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 21 August 2004 12:58 am, Peter wrote: point your favorite web browser or HTML viewer to the "index.html" file in the "doc" directory." And from there documention under set up. "Newer versions of CUPS (Common UNIX Printing System) do not print to arbitrary "file" destinations. Therefore, the generic ptal-printd-based setup procedure described above will not work with CUPS. Mark Horn contributed a CUPS ptal backend driver which enables CUPS to discover and print to hpoj-managed devices. First of all, you must restart CUPS after configuring devices with "ptal-init setup" so CUPS will notice the new device(s) and allow print queue creation. Next, enter the CUPS administration web interface and set up the print queue(s). User reports indicate that other utilities such as kups or YAST2 do not properly handle devices managed by the CUPS ptal backend. Important: Be sure to use the CUPS ptal backend for setting up hpoj-managed devices. The "traditional" parallel, usb, and file backends will likely not work." These instruction came from the version hpoj-0.90 instruction. I believe that they would be similar for the current version 0.91. Good luck on your installation. - -- Yours, Ralph. I have installed PCLinuxOS NV-P7a Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt Jabber & Skype ralphdewitt GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key fingerprint = DE4D 6225 A558 A2B9 8DEC 7E94 BB6F 435C 0DE2 085D 03E7 Kernel version 2.4.22-32tex Current Linux uptime: 6 days 4 hours 44 minutes. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBJ0DBu29DXA3iCF0RAtF0AJ4+K7ERaf9i199hZk2EJRtVnFxwXQCfURTl CbDkiij5VxGXMp0JgtIFw3k= =VpjG -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
I agree with Ralph. I sucessfully installed an HP 5110xi all in one after some trial and error. It soon became clear that Yast could not make this USB multifunction device operate properly. It also became clear that running Yast to configure the device after it was working caused it to fail again. Using hpoj (configured with ptal-init setup) (follow the package directions) and CUPS configured via http://localhost:631 as listed below (you must have cupsd running!) did the trick! The device node should end up looking something like "ptal:/mlc:usb:your_printer_name". Both scanning and printing are fully functional. There is even a nice little gui that comes with the hpoj package that you can use to view the printer's status LCD panel on your X desktop (mine was hard to read otherwise). I seem to remember there was some discussion about not using both hpoj and hpij together because hpij could break the hpoj scanning functions. But I am not too clear about that part. Cheers, /dw SuSE 8.2 Professional Kernel 2.4.20-4GB-athlon KDE 3.1.1 ralphdewitt@charter.net wrote:
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On Saturday 21 August 2004 12:58 am, Peter wrote:
Ralph De Witt wrote:
On Wednesday 09 June 2004 07:15 am, Eric Jahn wrote:
I use Suse 9.1, but I'm wondering why you wouldn't want to use yast for for setting up your printer. I use it at a Windows-based office to print to both network and local printers and Yast made it a piece of cake.
Eric: I am trying to set up a HP PSC 2110 all in one Printer, Copier, Scanner, and the all in one machine use HPOJ driver and the setup instruction say to use webmin (ie: localhost:631) and specificly caution against using Yast or Kde. It also cautions against using a USB device as the connection for the printer. The connection device in my case is ptal lc:usb:PSC_2100_Series . This connection device is only seen by webmin and not Yast or KDE printer set up.
This is interesting (I had a similar fight with SuSE 9.0 and an all-in-one from HP). Could you please tell me where you found those instructions? I'm about to re-install that system with SuSE 9.1 (yes, not upgrade) and although I hope the problem has been addressed it's always a good idea to have a backup solution ;-).
As an aside - wouldn't it be good if all those scanners and devices would have their buttons work under Linux?
Regards, /// P ///
Peter: I believe the instructions were in the hpoj documentation. From the HPOJ site. "The hpoj setup and reference documentation is now found in HTML format in the "doc" subdirectory of the source package. To get started, simply point your favorite web browser or HTML viewer to the "index.html" file in the "doc" directory." And from there documention under set up. "Newer versions of CUPS (Common UNIX Printing System) do not print to arbitrary "file" destinations. Therefore, the generic ptal-printd-based setup procedure described above will not work with CUPS. Mark Horn contributed a CUPS ptal backend driver which enables CUPS to discover and print to hpoj-managed devices.
First of all, you must restart CUPS after configuring devices with "ptal-init setup" so CUPS will notice the new device(s) and allow print queue creation.
Next, enter the CUPS administration web interface and set up the print queue(s). User reports indicate that other utilities such as kups or YAST2 do not properly handle devices managed by the CUPS ptal backend.
Important: Be sure to use the CUPS ptal backend for setting up hpoj-managed devices. The "traditional" parallel, usb, and file backends will likely not work." These instruction came from the version hpoj-0.90 instruction. I believe that they would be similar for the current version 0.91. Good luck on your installation. - -- Yours, Ralph. I have installed PCLinuxOS NV-P7a Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt Jabber & Skype ralphdewitt GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key fingerprint = DE4D 6225 A558 A2B9 8DEC 7E94 BB6F 435C 0DE2 085D 03E7 Kernel version 2.4.22-32tex Current Linux uptime: 6 days 4 hours 44 minutes. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux)
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