[opensuse-kde] correct update path KDE 4.2
Hello, can any tell the correct update path with all other updates pathes for KDE 4.2 and openSUSE-11.1 ? I read all Emails and search on o.o, but have big problem to understand this Philosophie ? I mean I am not allone ;) The best i mean, is a 1Click install in a opensuse.org Site, please ! -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards, Günther J. Niederwimmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 19:59 +0100, Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote:
Hello,
can any tell the correct update path with all other updates pathes for KDE 4.2 and openSUSE-11.1 ?
I read all Emails and search on o.o, but have big problem to understand this Philosophie ?
I mean I am not allone ;)
The best i mean, is a 1Click install in a opensuse.org Site, please ! -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards,
Günther J. Niederwimmer
Gunther, I take it you looked at http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/KDE4 ? There are 1-Clicks available there for almost any permutation of installing KDE 4.2 Regards, Andy -- Andrew Wafaa, openSUSE Member: FunkyPenguin. openSUSE: Get It, Discover It, Create It at http://www.opensuse.org awafaa@opensuse.org | http://www.wafaa.eu -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 28 January 2009 11:55:00 am Andrew Wafaa wrote:
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 19:59 +0100, Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote:
Hello,
can any tell the correct update path with all other updates pathes for KDE 4.2 and openSUSE-11.1 ?
I read all Emails and search on o.o, but have big problem to understand this Philosophie ?
I mean I am not allone ;)
The best i mean, is a 1Click install in a opensuse.org Site, please ! -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards,
Günther J. Niederwimmer
Gunther,
I take it you looked at http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/KDE4 ? There are 1-Clicks available there for almost any permutation of installing KDE 4.2
Regards,
Andy
-- Andrew Wafaa, openSUSE Member: FunkyPenguin. openSUSE: Get It, Discover It, Create It at http://www.opensuse.org awafaa@opensuse.org | http://www.wafaa.eu I just tried this 1 click install. I aborted it when it showed many dependency issues. I have 4.1.3 from the KDE:/KDE4:STABLE 11.1 repo's installed. What is the best way around this big list of dependencies?
Thanks for any help. -- Russ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 29. Januar 2009 01:40:53 schrieb Russ Fineman:
I just tried this 1 click install. I aborted it when it showed many dependency issues. I have 4.1.3 from the KDE:/KDE4:STABLE 11.1 repo's installed. What is the best way around this big list of dependencies?
Search the archives, this issue has been discussed many times. Remove all packages that are not available anymore, those do not include core apps like kmail etc, only minor like powerdevil, plasmoids and alike. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 January 2009 12:49:57 am Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 29. Januar 2009 01:40:53 schrieb Russ Fineman:
I just tried this 1 click install. I aborted it when it showed many dependency issues. I have 4.1.3 from the KDE:/KDE4:STABLE 11.1 repo's installed. What is the best way around this big list of dependencies?
Search the archives, this issue has been discussed many times. Remove all packages that are not available anymore, those do not include core apps like kmail etc, only minor like powerdevil, plasmoids and alike.
Sven I did search archives and tried the different repo's called out including the one click. I keep running into numerous dependence issues between 4.1.3 and 4.2 that have t5o do with the policy kit version and one rpm that cannot be provided. Do I allow YaST to delete and down grade everything it wants to and then install?
have never ran into this type problem before. -- Russ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 January 2009 05:56:02 pm Russ Fineman wrote:
On Thursday 29 January 2009 12:49:57 am Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 29. Januar 2009 01:40:53 schrieb Russ Fineman:
I just tried this 1 click install. I aborted it when it showed many dependency issues. I have 4.1.3 from the KDE:/KDE4:STABLE 11.1
repo's
installed. What is the best way around this big list of dependencies?
Search the archives, this issue has been discussed many times. Remove
all
packages that are not available anymore, those do not include core apps like kmail etc, only minor like powerdevil, plasmoids and alike.
Sven
I did search archives and tried the different repo's called out including the one click. I keep running into numerous dependence issues between 4.1.3 and 4.2 that have t5o do with the policy kit version and one rpm that cannot be provided. Do I allow YaST to delete and down grade everything it wants to and then install?
have never ran into this type problem before. -- Russ
Russ, can you post what dependency problems are present? If you use YaST then when dependency problem occurs just use Expert options in popup to store them. Send mail to my email addres with dependencies attached. I had a problem and all that I did was to remove few files. I guess it was only 3 files that made mess. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 January 2009 05:21:12 pm Rajko M. wrote:
On Thursday 29 January 2009 05:56:02 pm Russ Fineman wrote:
On Thursday 29 January 2009 12:49:57 am Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 29. Januar 2009 01:40:53 schrieb Russ Fineman:
I just tried this 1 click install. I aborted it when it showed many dependency issues. I have 4.1.3 from the KDE:/KDE4:STABLE 11.1
repo's
installed. What is the best way around this big list of dependencies?
Search the archives, this issue has been discussed many times. Remove
all
packages that are not available anymore, those do not include core apps like kmail etc, only minor like powerdevil, plasmoids and alike.
Sven
I did search archives and tried the different repo's called out including the one click. I keep running into numerous dependence issues between 4.1.3 and 4.2 that have t5o do with the policy kit version and one rpm that cannot be provided. Do I allow YaST to delete and down grade everything it wants to and then install?
have never ran into this type problem before. -- Russ
Russ,
can you post what dependency problems are present?
If you use YaST then when dependency problem occurs just use Expert options in popup to store them. Send mail to my email addres with dependencies attached.
I had a problem and all that I did was to remove few files. I guess it was only 3 files that made mess.
-- Regards, Rajko Thanks I'll do it early tomorrow. Will send you email with results.
Thanks for your help! -- Russ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 30 January 2009 06:18:16 pm Russ Fineman wrote:
On Thursday 29 January 2009 05:21:12 pm Rajko M. wrote: ...
I had a problem and all that I did was to remove few files. I guess it was only 3 files that made mess.
Thanks I'll do it early tomorrow. Will send you email with results.
Thanks for your help! -- Russ
Word "remove" replace with "allowed YaST to downgrade packages" and dependency problem disappeared. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
I allowed downgrade for PolicyKit and uninstallation for kio_sysinfo (if I remember well) and few other inconsistencies (eg ktorrent version with DHT from Packman) and I am using 4.2 daily without any flaw. On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Russ Fineman <russbucket@nwi.net> wrote:
On Thursday 29 January 2009 12:49:57 am Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 29. Januar 2009 01:40:53 schrieb Russ Fineman:
I just tried this 1 click install. I aborted it when it showed many dependency issues. I have 4.1.3 from the KDE:/KDE4:STABLE 11.1 repo's installed. What is the best way around this big list of dependencies?
Search the archives, this issue has been discussed many times. Remove all packages that are not available anymore, those do not include core apps like kmail etc, only minor like powerdevil, plasmoids and alike.
Sven I did search archives and tried the different repo's called out including the one click. I keep running into numerous dependence issues between 4.1.3 and 4.2 that have t5o do with the policy kit version and one rpm that cannot be provided. Do I allow YaST to delete and down grade everything it wants to and then install?
have never ran into this type problem before. -- Russ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote:
Hello,
can any tell the correct update path with all other updates pathes for KDE 4.2 and openSUSE-11.1 ?
I read all Emails and search on o.o, but have big problem to understand this Philosophie ?
I mean I am not allone ;)
The best i mean, is a 1Click install in a opensuse.org Site, please !
These are the repos you need for 4.2 but als read what Martin had to say to me in opensuse-factory (below): http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Extra-Apps/ope... http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSU... http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.1... QUOTE Just remember a couple of things: 1) kde4:/factory flavour is openSUSE development - so even though the code is officially released and "stable" from a KDE point of view, the packages remain pre-alpha and under active development from the openSUSE point of view. 2) if you don't pay attention (planetsuse.org or -kde mailinglist) kde4:/factory repositories might change to 4.3 beta right under your feet in 2-4 months time - depending on how the 11.2 roadmap turns out, when it's finally published. UNQUOTE Ciao. -- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 28 January 2009 05:41:35 pm Basil Chupin wrote:
Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote:
Hello,
can any tell the correct update path with all other updates pathes for KDE 4.2 and openSUSE-11.1 ?
I read all Emails and search on o.o, but have big problem to understand this Philosophie ?
I mean I am not allone ;)
The best i mean, is a 1Click install in a opensuse.org Site, please !
These are the repos you need for 4.2 but als read what Martin had to say to me in opensuse-factory (below):
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Extra- Apps/op enSUSE_11.1
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openS
USE_11.1
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.
1_KDE4_Factory_Desktop
Those are the ones I originally tried and got the same dependency issues. That's when I read the post about the one click and tried it. I look into the mail list you mention. I'll stick with 4.1.3 for now, it mostly works reliably for the functions I use.
QUOTE
Just remember a couple of things:
1) kde4:/factory flavour is openSUSE development - so even though the
code
is officially released and "stable" from a KDE point of view, the packages remain pre-alpha and under active development from the openSUSE point of view.
2) if you don't pay attention (planetsuse.org or -kde mailinglist) kde4:/factory repositories might change to 4.3 beta right under your feet in 2-4 months time - depending on how the 11.2 roadmap turns out, when it's finally published.
UNQUOTE
Ciao.
-- "I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the other three, I drop him." Confucius Thats for your response. -- Russ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Torsdag 29 januar 2009 04:13:05 skrev Russ Fineman:
On Wednesday 28 January 2009 05:41:35 pm Basil Chupin wrote:
Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote:
can any tell the correct update path with all other updates pathes for KDE 4.2 and openSUSE-11.1 ?
Those are the ones I originally tried and got the same dependency issues. That's when I read the post about the one click and tried it. I look into the mail list you mention. I'll stick with 4.1.3 for now, it mostly works reliably for the functions I use.
I've tried to cook up a small howto: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/howto-install-kde-42-on-opensuse/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 30 January 2009 06:43:22 am Martin Schlander wrote:
Torsdag 29 januar 2009 04:13:05 skrev Russ Fineman:
On Wednesday 28 January 2009 05:41:35 pm Basil Chupin wrote:
Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote:
can any tell the correct update path with all other updates pathes for KDE 4.2 and openSUSE-11.1 ?
Those are the ones I originally tried and got the same dependency issues. That's when I read the post about the one click and tried it. I look into the mail list you mention. I'll stick with 4.1.3 for now, it mostly works reliably for the functions I use.
I've tried to cook up a small howto: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/howto-install-kde-42-on- opensuse / Just read over your howto guide. Will give it a try this weekend. What about the extra apps repo, should install first by your guide, then add it?
I will post the out come. -- Russ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Lørdag 31 januar 2009 01:15:51 skrev Russ Fineman:
On Friday 30 January 2009 06:43:22 am Martin Schlander wrote:
I've tried to cook up a small howto: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/howto-install-kde-42-on- opensuse
Just read over your howto guide. Will give it a try this weekend. What about the extra apps repo, should install first by your guide, then add it?
I deliberately excluded the "Extra-apps" and "Community" repos from the howto. On the bad side, they'd add a lot of complexity to the howto - and especially they would add complexity later when people have to switch repos to avoid 4.3 beta packages, while making sure all the repos are still of the same "flavour". On the plus side the "extra-apps" mostly brings svn-builds of unreleased applications (kaffeine, k3b, koffice etc.) which are likely to do more harm than good, in the hands of the casual users anyway. And the "Community" repo mostly has plasmoids and plasma-themes of questionable reliability too. So I think the "costs" greatly outweigh the benefits for most people. But if you want them you can add them whenever you please.. before, after the upgrade, doesn't matter. Before is probably the safest depending on what you have already installed. Just make sure you don't mix repositories of different "flavours" (STABLE/UNSTABLE/Factory), or you'll be in a world of hurt. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 31 January 2009 05:07:18 am Martin Schlander wrote:
Lørdag 31 januar 2009 01:15:51 skrev Russ Fineman:
On Friday 30 January 2009 06:43:22 am Martin Schlander wrote:
I've tried to cook up a small howto: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/howto-install-kde-42-on-
opensuse
Just read over your howto guide. Will give it a try this weekend. What about the extra apps repo, should install first by your guide, then add it?
I deliberately excluded the "Extra-apps" and "Community" repos from the howto.
On the bad side, they'd add a lot of complexity to the howto - and especially they would add complexity later when people have to switch repos to avoid 4.3 beta packages, while making sure all the repos are still of the same "flavour".
On the plus side the "extra-apps" mostly brings svn-builds of unreleased applications (kaffeine, k3b, koffice etc.) which are likely to do more harm than good, in the hands of the casual users anyway. And the "Community" repo mostly has plasmoids and plasma-themes of questionable reliability too.
So I think the "costs" greatly outweigh the benefits for most people.
But if you want them you can add them whenever you please.. before, after the upgrade, doesn't matter. Before is probably the safest depending on what you have already installed.
Just make sure you don't mix repositories of different "flavours" (STABLE/UNSTABLE/Factory), or you'll be in a world of hurt. Your probably right, I know I get confused on which repo is which. First I'll try your approach, then I can go back to the others if I have to.
Thanks for your response. -- Russ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 30 January 2009 14:43:22 Martin Schlander wrote:
Torsdag 29 januar 2009 04:13:05 skrev Russ Fineman:
On Wednesday 28 January 2009 05:41:35 pm Basil Chupin wrote:
Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote:
can any tell the correct update path with all other updates pathes for KDE 4.2 and openSUSE-11.1 ?
Those are the ones I originally tried and got the same dependency issues. That's when I read the post about the one click and tried it. I look into the mail list you mention. I'll stick with 4.1.3 for now, it mostly works reliably for the functions I use.
I've tried to cook up a small howto: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/howto-install-kde-42-on-opensuse / Martin,
I got a 'Connection to Server Refused' error on that link, but I'd be very interested in reading your howto. Bob -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.1, Kernel 2.6.27.7-9-default, KDE 3.5.10 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 4GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9200GS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Tirsdag 03 februar 2009 10:50:19 skrev Bob Williams:
On Friday 30 January 2009 14:43:22 Martin Schlander wrote:
I've tried to cook up a small howto: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/howto-install-kde-42-on-opensu se /
I got a 'Connection to Server Refused' error on that link, but I'd be very interested in reading your howto.
Hm, strange, maybe you caught wordpress at a bad time, the url is correct and works here. http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/howto-install-kde-42-on-opensuse Or maybe just try the main url and scroll down a bit to the howto: http://mschlander.wordpress.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 12:12:35 Martin Schlander wrote:
Tirsdag 03 februar 2009 10:50:19 skrev Bob Williams:
On Friday 30 January 2009 14:43:22 Martin Schlander wrote:
I've tried to cook up a small howto: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/howto-install-kde-42-on-open su se /
I got a 'Connection to Server Refused' error on that link, but I'd be very interested in reading your howto.
Hm, strange, maybe you caught wordpress at a bad time, the url is correct and works here.
http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/howto-install-kde-42-on-opensuse
Or maybe just try the main url and scroll down a bit to the howto: http://mschlander.wordpress.com
Very odd. I get this at both these URLs The requested operation could not be completed Connection to Server Refused Details of the Request: URL: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/howto-install-kde-42-on- opensuse Protocol: http Date and Time: Tuesday 03 February 2009 12:49 Additional Information: localhost: Unknown error Description: The server mschlander.wordpress.com refused to allow this computer to make a connection. Possible Causes: The server, while currently connected to the Internet, may not be configured to allow requests. The server, while currently connected to the Internet, may not be running the requested service (http). A network firewall (a device which restricts Internet requests), either protecting your network or the network of the server, may have intervened, preventing this request. Possible Solutions: Try again, either now or at a later time. Contact the administrator of the server for further assistance. Contact your appropriate computer support system, whether the system administrator, or technical support group for further assistance. Same thing happened after stopping my firewall (which I probably don't need, as I'm behind a NAT router). Would you mind sending me the file direct? I'd be very grateful :) Bob -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.1, Kernel 2.6.27.7-9-default, KDE 3.5.10 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 4GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9200GS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 12:12:35 Martin Schlander wrote:
Tirsdag 03 februar 2009 10:50:19 skrev Bob Williams:
On Friday 30 January 2009 14:43:22 Martin Schlander wrote:
I've tried to cook up a small howto: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/howto-install-kde-42-on-open su se /
I got a 'Connection to Server Refused' error on that link, but I'd be very interested in reading your howto.
Hm, strange, maybe you caught wordpress at a bad time, the url is correct and works here.
http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/howto-install-kde-42-on-opensuse
Or maybe just try the main url and scroll down a bit to the howto: http://mschlander.wordpress.com
After further fiddling (that's what computers are for), I found that a simple copy and paste of your URL into the Firefox address bar worked OK. It was the Kontact/Kmail helpful dialog that caused the problem. Thanks, Martin. Bob -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.1, Kernel 2.6.27.7-9-default, KDE 4.1.3 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 4GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9200GS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Hello Guenther Am Wednesday 28 January 2009 19:59:27 schrieb Günther J. Niederwimmer:
Hello,
can any tell the correct update path with all other updates pathes for KDE 4.2 and openSUSE-11.1 ?
I read all Emails and search on o.o, but have big problem to understand this Philosophie ?
I mean I am not allone ;)
The best i mean, is a 1Click install in a opensuse.org Site, please ! -- mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards,
Günther J. Niederwimmer
guckstu http://de.opensuse.org/KDE4 ;-) kind regards Willi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
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