[opensuse-kde] AI: KPK systray icon
As everyone probably knows, KPackageKit is the default updater on 11.4 KDE systems. At the last KDE IRC meeting I got the action item to check if KPackageKit systray icons are "good enough"(tm). My findings are these: KPK will show the same systray icon to notify about all types of patches/updates (security, recommended, optional), and this icon seems to be the 'system-software-update' from Oxygen icons - so not included in KPK itself. Note: You can easily distinguish between patch types in the KPK UI - this is only about the systray icon. It'll look like this: http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/kpk.png Personally I can easily accept only one icon for all types of patches - but I do think the icon should be a highly visible one that isn't easily overlooked. So what can we do? Option 1: ------------------------------ Do nothing. Accept status quo from upstream. Possibly talk to pinheiro and/or dantti about making the icon more "visible" for future releases. Advantages: No extra work, consistency with other (KPK using) distros like Fedora and Kubuntu (I think, haven't tried). Disadvantage: "Updates available" icon remains easily overlooked. Option 2: ----------------------- We could use an icon from kupdateapplet instead: http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/kupdateapplet_red.png http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/kupdateapplet_yellow.png Advantage: Highly "visible" icon, consistent with older openSUSE versions. Disadvantage: Extra work, not consistent with KDE looks and other distros. Option 3: -------------------- We could use a different Oxygen icon - which is more craving of attention. E.g.: http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/emblem-important.png http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/security-medium.png http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/preferences-desktop-notification-bell.png http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/preferences-desktop-notification.png Advantages: Icon is not overlooked, integrates in the look of KDE Disadvantages: Extra work, inconsistent with other distros. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag, 15. Februar 2011, 15:04:35 schrieb Martin Schlander:
As everyone probably knows, KPackageKit is the default updater on 11.4 KDE systems. At the last KDE IRC meeting I got the action item to check if KPackageKit systray icons are "good enough"(tm). My findings are these:
KPK will show the same systray icon to notify about all types of patches/updates (security, recommended, optional), and this icon seems to be the 'system-software-update' from Oxygen icons - so not included in KPK itself. Note: You can easily distinguish between patch types in the KPK UI - this is only about the systray icon.
It'll look like this: http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/kpk.png
Personally I can easily accept only one icon for all types of patches - but I do think the icon should be a highly visible one that isn't easily overlooked. So what can we do?
Option 1: ------------------------------ Do nothing. Accept status quo from upstream. Possibly talk to pinheiro and/or dantti about making the icon more "visible" for future releases.
Advantages: No extra work, consistency with other (KPK using) distros like Fedora and Kubuntu (I think, haven't tried). Disadvantage: "Updates available" icon remains easily overlooked.
Option 2: ----------------------- We could use an icon from kupdateapplet instead: http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/kupdateapplet_red.png http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/kupdateapplet_yellow.png
Advantage: Highly "visible" icon, consistent with older openSUSE versions. Disadvantage: Extra work, not consistent with KDE looks and other distros.
Option 3: -------------------- We could use a different Oxygen icon - which is more craving of attention. E.g.: http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/emblem-important.png http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/security-medium.png http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/preferences-desktop-notification-bell.png http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/preferences-desktop-notification.png
Advantages: Icon is not overlooked, integrates in the look of KDE Disadvantages: Extra work, inconsistent with other distros.
I prefer option 3, but mainly because I think the icons look more kde-ish. Nuno seems very reluctant to change it to anything visible https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=264051#c1 (link thanks to martin) Maybe we can get other distributions opinion about the visibility? Karsten -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
2011/2/15 Karsten König <remur@gmx.net>:
Am Dienstag, 15. Februar 2011, 15:04:35 schrieb Martin Schlander:
Option 1: ------------------------------ Do nothing. Accept status quo from upstream. Possibly talk to pinheiro and/or dantti about making the icon more "visible" for future releases.
Advantages: No extra work, consistency with other (KPK using) distros like Fedora and Kubuntu (I think, haven't tried). Disadvantage: "Updates available" icon remains easily overlooked. Why on earth this icon is easily overlooked? Seriously, guys, an icon with big green arrow among monochrome icons? Right now I also use Fedora and appearing of updates icon never gets overlooked.=) Option 2: ----------------------- We could use an icon from kupdateapplet instead: http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/kupdateapplet_red.png http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/kupdateapplet_yellow.png
Advantage: Highly "visible" icon, consistent with older openSUSE versions. Disadvantage: Extra work, not consistent with KDE looks and other distros. Not an option. Oxygen theme provides enough icons that are "visible" enough, see Option 3 ;) Option 3: -------------------- We could use a different Oxygen icon - which is more craving of attention. E.g.: http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/emblem-important.png http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/security-medium.png http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/preferences-desktop-notification-bell.png http://www.opensuse-guide.org/tmp/preferences-desktop-notification.png
Advantages: Icon is not overlooked, integrates in the look of KDE Disadvantages: Extra work, inconsistent with other distros.
I prefer option 3, but mainly because I think the icons look more kde-ish. Nuno seems very reluctant to change it to anything visible https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=264051#c1 (link thanks to martin) Maybe we can get other distributions opinion about the visibility? At least Nuno is aware of changes needed. My proposal is to stick with whatever upstream provides, but if changing that nice icon is really urgent then have smth like security-medium.png
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Tirsdag den 15. februar 2011 17:49:54 skrev Александр Мелентьев:
Why on earth this icon is easily overlooked? Seriously, guys, an icon with big green arrow among monochrome icons? Right now I also use Fedora and appearing of updates icon never gets overlooked.=)
I guess you don't know the sort of people who can hardly tell a KDE desktop and MS Windows desktop apart. And who also have 15 systray icons - and they don't know what 2/3 of them do :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
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Karsten König
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Martin Schlander
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Александр Мелентьев