[opensuse-kde] The password field reduces in height when wrong password is entered to access Yast
Hello List Mates, I have noticed in KDE4 for some time. When I type the wrong password to access Yast, the height of the password field becomes quite small after two wrong passwords. This applies to the default setting in openSUSE 12.x and 13.1. Now I know that it can be resized. However, this does not happen in GNOME. Is this a known bug? Cheers! Roman -------------------------------------------- openSUSE -- Get it! Discover it! Share it! -------------------------------------------- http://linuxcounter.net/ #179293 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag, 25. Februar 2014, 18:41:18 schrieb Roman Bysh:
Hello List Mates,
I have noticed in KDE4 for some time. When I type the wrong password to access Yast, the height of the password field becomes quite small after two wrong passwords.
This applies to the default setting in openSUSE 12.x and 13.1.
Now I know that it can be resized. However, this does not happen in GNOME. Is this a known bug?
Yes, see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270245 Christian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/26/2014 01:52 PM, Christian Trippe wrote:
Am Dienstag, 25. Februar 2014, 18:41:18 schrieb Roman Bysh:
Hello List Mates,
I have noticed in KDE4 for some time. When I type the wrong password to access Yast, the height of the password field becomes quite small after two wrong passwords.
This applies to the default setting in openSUSE 12.x and 13.1.
Now I know that it can be resized. However, this does not happen in GNOME. Is this a known bug?
Yes, see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270245
Christian
I've added another report to update it to 2014. This was first reported in 2011 with 4.6x and I'm using 4.11.5. A patch is really needed. Does this problem still exist in 4.12? Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 03:14:51 PM Roman Bysh wrote:
On 02/26/2014 01:52 PM, Christian Trippe wrote:
Am Dienstag, 25. Februar 2014, 18:41:18 schrieb Roman Bysh:
Hello List Mates,
I have noticed in KDE4 for some time. When I type the wrong password to access Yast, the height of the password field becomes quite small after two wrong passwords.
This applies to the default setting in openSUSE 12.x and 13.1.
Now I know that it can be resized. However, this does not happen in GNOME. Is this a known bug?
Yes, see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270245
Christian
I've added another report to update it to 2014. This was first reported in 2011 with 4.6x and I'm using 4.11.5. A patch is really needed.
Does this problem still exist in 4.12?
Yes, it still happens in 4.12.2. It is annoying since an aesthetic point of view. It does not prevent you to enter a password. Regards, Rick Chung -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/26/2014 05:59 PM, Rick Chung wrote:
On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 03:14:51 PM Roman Bysh wrote:
On 02/26/2014 01:52 PM, Christian Trippe wrote:
Am Dienstag, 25. Februar 2014, 18:41:18 schrieb Roman Bysh:
Hello List Mates,
I have noticed in KDE4 for some time. When I type the wrong password to access Yast, the height of the password field becomes quite small after two wrong passwords.
This applies to the default setting in openSUSE 12.x and 13.1.
Now I know that it can be resized. However, this does not happen in GNOME. Is this a known bug?
Yes, see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270245
Christian
I've added another report to update it to 2014. This was first reported in 2011 with 4.6x and I'm using 4.11.5. A patch is really needed.
Does this problem still exist in 4.12?
Yes, it still happens in 4.12.2.
It is annoying since an aesthetic point of view. It does not prevent you to enter a password.
Regards,
Rick Chung
I would encourage everyone to access the link I've provided and submit a report so that we can get a patch asap. Waiting for last three years is unacceptable. -- Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-02-26 19:25 (GMT-0500) Roman Bysh composed:
Waiting for last three years is unacceptable.
For some, function is more important than polish. e.g. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=833253 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=847479 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832737 Even so, I hear you. With post-v3 KDE upstream, it seems next, bling and new users are always more important than polish, maintaining function, and particularly respect for existing users; a place for programmers to experiment on real users instead of providing competent, reliable functionality. e.g. more recent functional losses leading to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325286 and https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317929 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/26/2014 08:11 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2014-02-26 19:25 (GMT-0500) Roman Bysh composed:
Waiting for last three years is unacceptable.
For some, function is more important than polish. e.g. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=833253 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=847479 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832737
Even so, I hear you. With post-v3 KDE upstream, it seems next, bling and new users are always more important than polish, maintaining function, and particularly respect for existing users; a place for programmers to experiment on real users instead of providing competent, reliable functionality. e.g. more recent functional losses leading to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325286 and https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317929
Bugzilla really needs a team to seriously clean up the bug reports. There are way to many reports without follow ups. If I knew programming I would have provided help in providing patches. According to the KDE devs the smaller incremental updates were created to make KDE4 stable. They need a team to review all of these outstanding bug reports. Ref: http://community.kde.org/Getinvolved/Extra_Mile About one of the kde bug reports, I really miss enlarge window to full screen and show the window borders. Recent changes removed them so now they (the borders) appear to be cut off. The bugs.kde.org said that it's up to the developers of the decorations to add the feature into the decorations to show the borders. Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
In data mercoledì 26 febbraio 2014 20:39:03, Roman Bysh ha scritto:
Bugzilla really needs a team to seriously clean up the bug reports. There are way to many reports without follow ups.
Upstream needs help, it's a thankless job that only gets flak from the userbase (try closing bugs for an old product). In fact a lot of people have quit from the triaging team because of burnout. These things have also been considered from the developers point of view (Plasma people plan on changing how the KF5 base will be handled wrt bugs, to make an example).
About one of the kde bug reports, I really miss enlarge window to full screen and show the window borders. Recent changes removed them so now
For discussion directly with upstream, it may also be useful to read the relevant mailing lists or the KDE forums. -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team KDE Science supporter GPG key ID: 6E1A4E79
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 02/27/2014 01:18 AM, Luca Beltrame wrote:
In data mercoledì 26 febbraio 2014 20:39:03, Roman Bysh ha scritto:
Bugzilla really needs a team to seriously clean up the bug reports. There are way to many reports without follow ups.
Upstream needs help, it's a thankless job that only gets flak from the userbase (try closing bugs for an old product). In fact a lot of people have quit from the triaging team because of burnout.
These things have also been considered from the developers point of view (Plasma people plan on changing how the KF5 base will be handled wrt bugs, to make an example).
About one of the kde bug reports, I really miss enlarge window to full screen and show the window borders. Recent changes removed them so now
For discussion directly with upstream, it may also be useful to read the relevant mailing lists or the KDE forums.
Luca, I have been monitoring the bug list for a number of years. Ever since my first purchase of Mandrake 7 Power Pack in 2000. And, I agree that there is a high burnout rate. As most people are volunteers. Perhaps if people were paid for their work we would see a different outlook. Don't get me wrong. I have nothing but the highest respect for people that devote most of their time on providing patches and improving the functionality of KDE4. How can we add this _kdesu_ bug 270245 to the extramile bug list tracker? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=extramile Could this be a way to expedite the creation of a patch? Cheers! Roman -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTD5u2AAoJEK4CgFtuQ0nbaIcH/A2yXkuB5oagcZJh2GGOHs6M plUrqR0HuxwWiHlo9jA1Xzr7HENpZFRkmJP0eWhnfYdgfS8VTmgpcCoy3tbUy1JJ 1gFkftN527Rm1txHAvIYbc3WQHAYLjJe4UvAvn0T7JgGSpyey8nbTydefqwDn/wp gT/F2CdYb2nnbLNh087ZG+FEGfp+dF2jpoeHkbIOo7Q6GgwJPSAqDzhndY9Zmhoq xltjhhZtq6RUzcA9s8WP4VJMg1FoYG+1ai0k4JDIerpS+H3zc3lNP5zDGIFOowt8 CdmtOnMwpBlBbcujh3uq4Vab4TOP2xlp5rde+aRLwGl4EwE5R4oM/+oQn2iVvxo= =Y+X/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
In data mercoledì 26 febbraio 2014 20:11:00, Felix Miata ha scritto:
Even so, I hear you. With post-v3 KDE upstream, it seems next, bling and new users are always more important than polish, maintaining function, and
As a person that's more upstream than downstream, and regularly does user support on "hot" (in the sense of heavily criticized) parts of the KDE applications such as PIM, I find these sweeping generalizations off-putting, to say the least. -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team KDE Science supporter GPG key ID: 6E1A4E79
On Thursday, February 27, 2014 07:15:26 Luca Beltrame wrote:
In data mercoledì 26 febbraio 2014 20:11:00, Felix Miata ha scritto:
Even so, I hear you. With post-v3 KDE upstream, it seems next, bling and new users are always more important than polish, maintaining function, and As a person that's more upstream than downstream, and regularly does user support on "hot" (in the sense of heavily criticized) parts of the KDE applications such as PIM, I find these sweeping generalizations off-putting, to say the least.
Just wanted to say thanks for your commitment and work done. While the transition from 3.5 to 4 was anything but 'clean', KDE is a rare, if not only DE that hasn't crippled itself and has been consistent across versions to a large extent. Kind regards, Jason -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-02-27 07:15 (GMT+0100) Luca Beltrame composed:
Felix Miata composed:
Even so, I hear you. With post-v3 KDE upstream, it seems next, bling and new users are always more important than polish, maintaining function, and
As a person that's more upstream than downstream, and regularly does user support on "hot" (in the sense of heavily criticized) parts of the KDE applications such as PIM, I find these sweeping generalizations off-putting, to say the least.
KDE could hardly be as good as it is without a lot of good people putting in quality effort, but do you really not expect such on occasion from long time users when: 1-more than a few bugs never get any apparent or relevant developer attention, much less fixed (e.g. 120533, 8 years old; 262695 3 years old; 297217 23 months old) 2-complaints about controversial paradigm changes without option to preserve prior behavior fall on deaf ears (e.g. 325286:snapto), or the controversial new behavior becomes the automatically displacing default (maximize/tile by dragging window to edge; no sound on login/logout) 3-KDE3 features never implemented in KDE4 (e.g. 158556:manual panel hiding, with option for button *only* on right end of panel) 4-major foundational changes produce arbitrary halts to any possibility of fixing problems before the new underpinnings migrate into the stable product (especially when new problem arose right before cutoff) Many grateful users of openSUSE and other popular distros remain content with what ain't broke not getting "improved" in KDE3 and TDE. I remain hopeful that someday KDE post-3 can become something I can unconditionally recommend. I expect that would take a lot more polishing and old bug resolution than I expect will ever happen without KDE leadership pushing people to spend more time fixing and less time being creative. Meanwhile I recommend KDE3 or TDE often, install KDE3 instead of KDE4 on about half my Factory installations, and KDE3 remains the only DE running 24/7 on Linux here. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
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