[opensuse-kde] KScreen status?

I was having trouble with 4.10.4 on F19 that I wasn't having with 4.10.4 on 13.1. Turns out KScreen was overriding xorg.conf. Yum remove kscreen wanted to remove kde-workspace, so I did rpm -e --nodeps kscreen and solved the problem. Is KScreen going to be "mandatory" for single display users of 13.1's KDE4 too? Is its appearance in OSS repos scheduled yet? If so, for when? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

In data venerdì 21 giugno 2013 00:40:39, Felix Miata ha scritto:
Is KScreen going to be "mandatory" for single display users of 13.1's KDE4 too?
It replaces krandr, which has been "mandatory" for years in kde-workspace. It does nothing on a single screen setup, exactly like krandr (not to be confused with krandrtray). -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team KDE Science supporter GPG key ID: 6E1A4E79

On 2013-06-21 07:21 (GMT+0200) Luca Beltrame composed:
Felix Miata composed:
Is KScreen going to be "mandatory" for single display users of 13.1's KDE4 too?
It replaces krandr, which has been "mandatory" for years in kde-workspace. It does nothing on a single screen setup, exactly like krandr (not to be confused with krandrtray).
It definitely does more than nothing in Fedora 19's current implementation. I expect first instance on new installation (empty ~/.kde)(at least) to open according to xorg.conf specifications. In F19's 4.10.4, PreferredMode is overridden by EDID's supposed ideal (CRT) mode. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

In data venerdì 21 giugno 2013 01:33:24, Felix Miata ha scritto:
I expect first instance on new installation (empty ~/.kde)(at least) to open according to xorg.conf specifications. In F19's 4.10.4, PreferredMode is overridden by EDID's supposed ideal (CRT) mode.
Did you file a bug upstream? The developers are pretty responsive and the bug count for kscreen is still low, so there are high chances of this being looked at. -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team KDE Science supporter GPG key ID: 6E1A4E79

On 2013-06-21 07:42 (GMT+0200) Luca Beltrame composed:
Felix Miata composed:
I expect first instance on new installation (empty ~/.kde)(at least) to open according to xorg.conf specifications. In F19's 4.10.4, PreferredMode is overridden by EDID's supposed ideal (CRT) mode.
Did you file a bug upstream?
Why would I file a bug upstream for a problem observed in Fedora but not openSUSE without knowing with certainty it has not yet replaced KRandr in 13.1? Your previous reply used the word "replaces", which makes its openSUSE status unclear. In Fedora, it's a separate rpm. Zypper se -s didn't find me one for 13.1, but there were a number of hits in OBS web search. Where upstream. You say bug count is low. Does KScreen have its own tracker, or rely entirely on bugs.kde.org, where I see only 9 bug reports total for the product KScreen?
The developers are pretty responsive and the bug count for kscreen is still low, so there are high chances of this being looked at.
Sure, if it's a bug rather than intended. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On Friday 21 June 2013 01:33:24 Felix Miata wrote:
It definitely does more than nothing in Fedora 19's current implementation. I expect first instance on new installation (empty ~/.kde)(at least) to open according to xorg.conf specifications. In F19's 4.10.4, PreferredMode is overridden by EDID's supposed ideal (CRT) mode.
Which xorg.conf, if I may ask ? Looking at my installation I do not have any xorg.conf and as far as I know this became obsolete with one of the later Xserver versions. I do have xorg.conf.d which contains the settings for mouse, synaptics, etc. But I do not have any screen setting in there. What was the version of KScreen included in F19 ? The official 1.0 was only released last week, so I wonder if this wasn't resolved already. Kscreen for openSUSE will only be delivered with KDE 4.11 and this combination is currently available in KDE:Distro:Factory. Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org

On 2013-06-21 07:51 (GMT+0200) Raymond Wooninck composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
It definitely does more than nothing in Fedora 19's current implementation. I expect first instance on new installation (empty ~/.kde)(at least) to open according to xorg.conf specifications. In F19's 4.10.4, PreferredMode is overridden by EDID's supposed ideal (CRT) mode.
Which xorg.conf, if I may ask ?
Any one which can reverse globally-forced 96 DPI before KDM ever accepts its first login. :-) e.g., one based on http://fm.no-ip.com/Share/DisplaySize
Looking at my installation I do not have any xorg.conf and as far as I know this became obsolete with one of the later Xserver versions.
What's obsolete is its universal necessity, not its supported availability.
I do have xorg.conf.d which contains the settings for mouse, synaptics, etc. But I do not have any screen setting in there.
Probably most people with average or better eyesight can manage with what automagic provides. The problem is it can be much harder or even impossible for people faced with too small GUI text to make it big enough than the other way around.
What was the version of KScreen included in F19 ?
The one I uninstalled was reported by yum.log as 0.0.92-1.fc19, which had been installed 06 May.
The official 1.0 was only released last week, so I wonder if this wasn't resolved already.
I'd like to know, but in light of my current backlog of todos, personal investigation in the foreseeable future will not be a priority.
Kscreen for openSUSE will only be delivered with KDE 4.11 and this combination is currently available in KDE:Distro:Factory.
This kind of answer is what I was looking for by starting this thread. :-) -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
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Felix Miata
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Luca Beltrame
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Raymond Wooninck