I'm running SuSE 8.0, and most of the time I use KDE. At the weekend I was trying out a few of the programs listed on the KDE taskbar, in particular GDict, which is a GNOME program, under the Office heading. This program began to load but no window opened up on the desktop. However, the GNOME desktop panel opened on my KDE desktop. Now everytime I start the computer KDE loads and then the GNOME panel also loads. I have noticed that its sometimes not there after KDE has freshly started but then if I run some programs such as Kppp then the GNOME panel appears. I don't want both of these desktops working together but can't find a way of exiting GNOME so that it doesn't reappear in KDE. Someone suggested removing all the the .gnome and related directories from my home directory. I tried this, however, when I rebooted the gnome panel reappeared and of course it regenerated all the .gnome directories. I suspect there's a KDE configuration file somewhere that I could edit but I don't know which one. Any ideas how this problem could have been caused and how to resolved it would be gratefully received. Cheers John Satherley
Your problem sounds like you accidentally checked Save Session when you logged out. You need to manually kill all of the GNOME apps and then save your session without them. Session management is a nice feature to have but in general, it's a good idea to leave the save session option unchecked, unless you need to do it (then do it once and then uncheck it next logout). To kill the GNOME programs: * Start up a Konsole session * enter killall -9 panel * enter killall -9 nautilus Then log out and save your session. If you still get GNOMEd, type ps aux from a command prompt and e-mail your results back to the list. Dr J. Satherley wrote:
I'm running SuSE 8.0, and most of the time I use KDE.
At the weekend I was trying out a few of the programs listed on the KDE taskbar, in particular GDict, which is a GNOME program, under the Office heading. This program began to load but no window opened up on the desktop. However, the GNOME desktop panel opened on my KDE desktop. Now everytime I start the computer KDE loads and then the GNOME panel also loads. I have noticed that its sometimes not there after KDE has freshly started but then if I run some programs such as Kppp then the GNOME panel appears.
I don't want both of these desktops working together but can't find a way of exiting GNOME so that it doesn't reappear in KDE. Someone suggested removing all the the .gnome and related directories from my home directory. I tried this, however, when I rebooted the gnome panel reappeared and of course it regenerated all the .gnome directories. I suspect there's a KDE configuration file somewhere that I could edit but I don't know which one.
Any ideas how this problem could have been caused and how to resolved it would be gratefully received.
Cheers John Satherley
I'm running SuSE 8.0, and most of the time I use KDE.
At the weekend I was trying out a few of the programs listed on the KDE taskbar, in particular GDict, which is a GNOME program, under the Office heading. This program began to load but no window opened up on the desktop. However, the GNOME desktop panel opened on my KDE desktop. Now everytime I start the computer KDE loads and then the GNOME panel also loads. I have noticed that its sometimes not there after KDE has freshly started but
I tried out what you suggested last night. First you were right, I did have session checked. Killall -9 panel removed the gnome panel but killall -9 nautilus didn't find any nautilus related programs in memory. I then logged out and saved session. However, when I logged back in the gnome panel reappeared. I ran ps aux (print out below) and found a couple of other things related to gnome which I killed (together with panel again) and then repeated the logout procedure. However, these programs and the panel still reappeared. (Come to think of it as I write this mail it's possible I forgot to save session and then uncheck it next time round as it was quite late last night when I did this - will need to check this again tonight.) However, is it correct to remove these other gnome related programs that are sitting in memory? Is there anything else that I should remove? thanks for help. cheers John Satherley ps. I have just noticed that the cut and paste method I used to transfer the ouput of ps aux has lost a few things at the ends of some lines, in particular gnome-name-servic should be gnome-name-service, and /opt/gnome/bin/me should be /opt/gnome/bin/medusa-????, but hopefully there's enough info here to solve problem. john@linux:~> ps aux USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND root 1 2.7 0.0 448 220 ? S 21:54 0:05 init [5] root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 21:54 0:00 [keventd] root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 21:54 0:00 [kapmd] root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SWN 21:54 0:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0] root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 21:54 0:00 [kswapd] root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 21:54 0:00 [bdflush] root 7 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 21:54 0:00 [kupdated] root 8 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 21:54 0:00 [kinoded] root 9 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW< 21:54 0:00 [mdrecoveryd] root 12 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 21:54 0:00 [kreiserfsd] root 381 0.0 0.2 1408 644 ? S 21:54 0:00 /sbin/syslogd root 384 0.0 0.4 2000 1112 ? S 21:54 0:00 /sbin/klogd -c 1 root 420 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 21:54 0:00 [khubd] bin 521 0.0 0.1 1352 440 ? S 21:55 0:00 /sbin/portmap root 569 0.2 0.5 2736 1368 ? S 21:55 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd at 601 0.0 0.2 1456 596 ? S 21:55 0:00 /usr/sbin/atd lp 625 0.0 0.3 1952 844 ? S 21:55 0:00 lpd Waiting root 663 0.0 0.2 1476 660 ? S 21:55 0:00 /usr/sbin/cron mail 682 0.0 0.8 5360 2224 ? S 21:55 0:00 sendmail: Queue r root 688 0.0 0.9 5568 2460 ? S 21:55 0:00 sendmail: accepti root 790 0.0 0.3 11804 780 ? S 21:55 0:00 /usr/sbin/nscd root 791 0.0 0.3 11804 780 ? S 21:55 0:00 /usr/sbin/nscd root 792 0.0 0.3 11804 780 ? S 21:55 0:00 /usr/sbin/nscd root 793 0.0 0.3 11804 780 ? S 21:55 0:00 /usr/sbin/nscd root 794 0.0 0.3 11804 780 ? S 21:55 0:00 /usr/sbin/nscd root 795 0.0 0.3 11804 780 ? S 21:55 0:00 /usr/sbin/nscd root 796 0.0 0.3 11804 780 ? S 21:55 0:00 /usr/sbin/nscd root 887 0.0 0.2 2292 736 ? S 21:55 0:00 /opt/kde3/bin/kdm root 894 6.6 2.8 12968 7284 ? S 21:55 0:09 /usr/X11R6/bin/X root 923 0.0 0.5 2960 1340 ? S 21:55 0:00 -:0 root 1982 0.0 0.1 1324 420 ? S 21:55 0:00 /opt/win4lin/bin/ root 2019 0.0 0.2 1312 520 tty1 S 21:55 0:00 /sbin/mingetty -- root 2020 0.0 0.2 1308 516 tty2 S 21:55 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tt root 2021 0.0 0.2 1308 516 tty3 S 21:55 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tt root 2022 0.0 0.2 1308 516 tty4 S 21:55 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tt root 2023 0.0 0.2 1308 516 tty5 S 21:55 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tt root 2024 0.0 0.2 1308 516 tty6 S 21:55 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tt john 2050 0.0 0.4 2520 1204 ? S 21:55 0:00 /bin/sh/usr/X11R john 2067 0.0 0.8 6352 2164 ? S 21:55 0:00 /opt/gnome/bin/me john 2109 0.0 2.5 19552 6536 ? S 21:55 0:00 kdeinit: Running. john 2112 0.0 2.6 19468 6784 ? S 21:55 0:00 kdeinit: dcopserv john 2115 0.1 3.0 21144 7916 ? S 21:55 0:00 kdeinit: klaunche john 2117 1.5 3.5 20688 9128 ? S 21:55 0:01 kdeinit: kded john 2128 0.6 1.6 6576 4204 ? S 21:55 0:00 /opt/kde3//bin/ar john 2132 0.2 4.1 23788 10592 ? S 21:55 0:00 kdeinit: knotify john 2136 0.0 0.1 1372 380 ? S 21:55 0:00 kwrapper ksmserve john 2138 0.2 3.4 20564 8828 ? S 21:55 0:00 kdeinit: ksmserve john 2139 0.6 4.2 21928 10732 ? S 21:55 0:00 kdeinit: kwin -se john 2142 0.1 3.7 21040 9544 ? S 21:55 0:00 kdeinit: kwrited john 2144 0.5 4.7 23040 12084 ? S 21:55 0:00 kdeinit: kdesktop john 2148 0.8 4.9 24292 12616 ? S 21:55 0:00 kdeinit: kicker john 2149 0.0 2.7 19668 7036 ? S 21:55 0:00 kdeinit: kio_file john 2152 0.2 3.9 22384 10132 ? S 21:55 0:00 kdeinit: klipper john 2155 0.5 4.3 22092 11116 ? S 21:55 0:00 kdeinit: kmix -se john 2156 1.5 1.9 8392 4876 ? S 21:55 0:01 panel --sm-config john 2157 0.4 3.7 20496 9552 ? S 21:55 0:00 kwikdisk -session john 2161 0.3 3.8 20976 9912 ? S 21:55 0:00 korgac --miniicon john 2163 0.2 3.3 20380 8548 ? S 21:55 0:00 kalarmd --login john 2165 0.0 0.4 2848 1200 ? S 21:55 0:00 gnome-name-servic john 2169 4.5 4.5 21664 11696 ? S 21:56 0:04 ksysguard --showp john 2171 1.5 0.2 1456 684 ? S 21:56 0:01 ksysguardd john 2190 9.0 4.5 23400 11664 ? R 21:57 0:00 kdeinit: konsole john 2192 0.8 0.6 2812 1600 pts/1 S 21:57 0:00 /bin/bash john 2199 0.0 0.6 2640 1656 pts/1 R 21:57 0:00 ps aux -----Original Message----- From: Matt Sheffield [mailto:mattsheffield@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 2:03 AM To: suse-kde@suse.com Subject: Re: [suse-kde] KDE and GNOME running simultaneously Your problem sounds like you accidentally checked Save Session when you logged out. You need to manually kill all of the GNOME apps and then save your session without them. Session management is a nice feature to have but in general, it's a good idea to leave the save session option unchecked, unless you need to do it (then do it once and then uncheck it next logout). To kill the GNOME programs: * Start up a Konsole session * enter killall -9 panel * enter killall -9 nautilus Then log out and save your session. If you still get GNOMEd, type ps aux from a command prompt and e-mail your results back to the list. Dr J. Satherley wrote: then
if I run some programs such as Kppp then the GNOME panel appears.
I don't want both of these desktops working together but can't find a way of exiting GNOME so that it doesn't reappear in KDE. Someone suggested removing all the the .gnome and related directories from my home directory. I tried this, however, when I rebooted the gnome panel
reappeared and of course it regenerated all the .gnome directories. I suspect there's a KDE configuration file somewhere that I could edit but I don't know which one.
Any ideas how this problem could have been caused and how to resolved it would be gratefully received.
Cheers John Satherley
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Tell me what happens when you double check the save session problem. On September 27, 2002 04:06 am, Dr J. Satherley wrote:
I tried out what you suggested last night. First you were right, I did have session checked. Killall -9 panel removed the gnome panel but killall -9 nautilus didn't find any nautilus related programs in memory. I then logged out and saved session. However, when I logged back in the gnome panel reappeared. I ran ps aux (print out below) and found a couple of other things related to gnome which I killed (together with panel again) and then repeated the logout procedure. However, these programs and the panel still reappeared. (Come to think of it as I write this mail it's possible I forgot to save session and then uncheck it next time round as it was quite late last night when I did this - will need to check this again tonight.) However, is it correct to remove these other gnome related programs that are sitting in memory? Is there anything else that I should remove? thanks for help. cheers John Satherley
After double checking I have now removed the gnome panel from the kde desktop. I notice that panel and gnome-name-server (if I recall that name correctly) have both disappeared from the ps aux output even though I only killed panel. However, the medusa-idled remains. Should I remove that as well? Thanks for your help on this Matt it has solved the problem. John On Saturday 28 September 2002 08:03, Matt Sheffield wrote:
Tell me what happens when you double check the save session problem.
On September 27, 2002 04:06 am, Dr J. Satherley wrote:
I tried out what you suggested last night. First you were right, I did have session checked. Killall -9 panel removed the gnome panel but killall -9 nautilus didn't find any nautilus related programs in memory. I then logged out and saved session. However, when I logged back in the gnome panel reappeared. I ran ps aux (print out below) and found a couple of other things related to gnome which I killed (together with panel again) and then repeated the logout procedure. However, these programs and the panel still reappeared. (Come to think of it as I write this mail it's possible I forgot to save session and then uncheck it next time round as it was quite late last night when I did this - will need to check this again tonight.) However, is it correct to remove these other gnome related programs that are sitting in memory? Is there anything else that I should remove? thanks for help. cheers John Satherley
2002-09-27 16.06 skrev Dr J. Satherley: :: > I tried out what you suggested last night. First you were right, I did :: > have session checked. Killall -9 panel removed the gnome panel but :: > killall -9 nautilus didn't find any nautilus related programs in memory. :: > I then logged out and saved session. However, when I logged back in the :: > gnome panel reappeared. I ran ps aux (print out below) and found a :: > couple of other things related to gnome which I killed (together with :: > panel again) and then repeated the logout procedure. However, these :: > programs and the panel still reappeared. (Come to think of it as I write :: > this mail it's possible I forgot to save session and then uncheck it :: > next time round as it was quite late last night when I did this - will :: > need to check this again tonight.) However, is it correct to remove :: > these other gnome related programs that are sitting in memory? Is there :: > anything else that I should remove? thanks for help. :: > cheers :: > John Satherley I duplicated your problem and got rid of it by deleting all unwanted programs (panel) in ~/.kde/share/config/ksmsserverrc after logging out from kde. -- God is the tangential point between zero and infinity. -- Alfred Jarry
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