First one was running v3.3.01 inxi -SIGMa. Next one was in systemsettings5 clicking on startup and shutdown. # cat xsession-errors /usr/etc/X11/xdm/Xsession: Checking whether an input method should be started. sourcing /etc/sysconfig/language to get the value of INPUT_METHOD INPUT_METHOD is not set or empty (no user selected input method). Trying to start a default input method for the locale en_US.UTF-8 ... There is no default input method for the current locale. Dummy input method "none" (do not use any fancy input method by default) gpg-connect-agent: no gpg-agent running in this session gpg-connect-agent: no gpg-agent running in this session xsettingsd: Loaded 0 settings from /user/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf xsettingsd: Loaded 0 settings from /user/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf xsettingsd: Created window 0x1a00001 on screen 0 with timestamp 620697 xsettingsd: Selection _XSETTINGS_S0 is owned by 0x0 xsettingsd: Took ownership of selection _XSETTINGS_S0 xsettingsd: Reloading configuration xsettingsd: Loaded 0 settings from /user/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf xsettingsd: Reloading configuration xsettingsd: Loaded 0 settings from /user/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf xsettingsd: Reloading configuration xsettingsd: Loaded 10 settings from /user/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf xsettingsd: Reloading configuration xsettingsd: Loaded 10 settings from /user/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf xsettingsd: Reloading configuration xsettingsd: Loaded 10 settings from /user/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf xsettingsd: Reloading configuration xsettingsd: Loaded 10 settings from /user/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf xsettingsd: Reloading configuration xsettingsd: Loaded 10 settings from /user/.config/xsettingsd/xsettingsd.conf [E][pipewire.c:335 add_interface()] can't get Spa:Pointer:Interface:Log interface -2 [E][pipewire.c:368 load_journal_logger()] can't get log interface -2 [E][pipewire.c:335 add_interface()] can't get Spa:Pointer:Interface:CPU interface -2 startkde: Starting up... klauncher: Exiting on signal 1 X connection to :0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 1742, errno = 11 XIO: fatal IO error 17 (File exists) on X server ":0" after 2929 requests (2929 known processed) with 0 events remaining. ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 1763, errno = 11 XIO: fatal IO error 2 (No such file or directory) on X server ":0" after 3011 requests (3011 known processed) with 0 events remaining -- Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion, is based on faith, not on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/