[opensuse-kde] Could not start process pop3
Hello list Presently runnning 12.1 with KDE3 and 12.2 with KDE4.9 However. in 12.2 I am runniong Kmail 1.9 becauae od the Kmail2 problems. I copied pver all of the swttings from 12.1 to 12.2 (both being Kmail 1,9) Kmail will not fetch mail in 12.2 with the message "cpild not start process pop3. What am I missing? Setting are both the same in both distros. I seem to remember a posting about a change in a script or something which disabled something about kmail 2?? Please excuse any typos; Can;t see very well amymore. Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Samstag, 8. September 2012, 01:05:31 schrieb Bob S:
Presently runnning 12.1 with KDE3 and 12.2 with KDE4.9 However. in 12.2 I am runniong Kmail 1.9 becauae od the Kmail2 problems.
I copied pver all of the swttings from 12.1 to 12.2 (both being Kmail 1,9) Kmail will not fetch mail in 12.2 with the message "cpild not start process pop3. What am I missing? Setting are both the same in both distros.
Isn't kmail 1.9 a KDE3 app? If so opensuse-kde3 is the mailinglist for issues with it. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday 08 September 2012 06:50:54 Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Samstag, 8. September 2012, 01:05:31 schrieb Bob S:
Presently runnning 12.1 with KDE3 and 12.2 with KDE4.9 However. in 12.2 I am runniong Kmail 1.9 becauae od the Kmail2 problems.
I copied pver all of the swttings from 12.1 to 12.2 (both being Kmail 1,9) Kmail will not fetch mail in 12.2 with the message "cpild not start process pop3. What am I missing? Setting are both the same in both distros.
Isn't kmail 1.9 a KDE3 app? If so opensuse-kde3 is the mailinglist for issues with it.
Sven
Well Sven,thank you for remining me about which list is proper tp post to but you see, I do not have an issue with kmail on KDE3, It runs just fine there. The issue is running it on KDE4.9. Ergo this is probably the correct list. Maybe you didnlt read or understand my posting for help, So tell me, when 4.9 says It cannot start process pop3, what does it mean and how do I fix it? Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012/09/08 14:16 (GMT-0400) Bob S composed:
Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Samstag, 8. September 2012, 01:05:31 schrieb Bob S:
Presently runnning 12.1 with KDE3 and 12.2 with KDE4.9 However. in 12.2 I am runniong Kmail 1.9 becauae od the Kmail2 problems.
I copied pver all of the swttings from 12.1 to 12.2 (both being Kmail 1,9) Kmail will not fetch mail in 12.2 with the message "cpild not start process pop3. What am I missing? Setting are both the same in both distros.
Isn't kmail 1.9 a KDE3 app? If so opensuse-kde3 is the mailinglist for issues with it.
Well Sven,thank you for remining me about which list is proper tp post to but you see, I do not have an issue with kmail on KDE3, It runs just fine there.
I'm not sure everyone understands what's going on here. IIRC, I only installed a very select few KDE3 apps I know you use in 12.2, but the rest of KDE on 12.2, including KDM, is only KDE4.
The issue is running it on KDE4.9. Ergo this is probably the correct list. Maybe you didnlt read or understand my posting for help,
So tell me, when 4.9 says It cannot start process pop3, what does it mean and how do I fix it?
Given that cross-posting opensuse lists is frowned upon, opensuse-kde is probably *an* appropriate choice. To be sure, the app non working is a KDE3 app, but who's to say whether the fault it doesn't work is the app's and not the environment's? Until a fix appears, if one appears, it's unknown where the root of the problem lies. Maybe it's neither, possibly a firewall or port assignment problem. Bob, check to see whether I remembered to get the same user ID(s) assigned in 12.2 as in the older installs. If I didn't, it could be a permissions problem resulting from the data copy process. Check also to see if /etc/profile.local exists in 12.2. If not, copy it from 12.1 or 11.3 - if either of those have it. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Samstag, 8. September 2012, 14:16:07 schrieb Bob S:
Well Sven,thank you for remining me about which list is proper tp post to but you see, I do not have an issue with kmail on KDE3, It runs just fine there. The issue is running it on KDE4.9. Ergo this is probably the correct list. Maybe you didnlt read or understand my posting for help,
I understand that you are using unmaintained and hence unsupported software and you are mixing it with KDE4. And you wonder why you get into trouble with that. Or to put it differently, running KDE3's kmail in KDE4 is not supported. If it works, that's fine, if not ask those that provided the unmaintained software to you -> opensuse-kde3.
So tell me, when 4.9 says It cannot start process pop3, what does it mean and how do I fix it?
By not using unmaintained software. It's as simple as that. Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday, September 09, 2012 1:07:06:am Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Samstag, 8. September 2012, 14:16:07 schrieb Bob S:
Well Sven,thank you for remining me about which list is proper tp post to but you see, I do not have an issue with kmail on KDE3, It runs just fine there. The issue is running it on KDE4.9. Ergo this is probably the correct list. Maybe you didnlt read or understand my posting for help,
I understand that you are using unmaintained and hence unsupported software and you are mixing it with KDE4. And you wonder why you get into trouble with that.
Or to put it differently, running KDE3's kmail in KDE4 is not supported. If it works, that's fine, if not ask those that provided the unmaintained software to you -> opensuse-kde3.
So tell me, when 4.9 says It cannot start process pop3, what does it mean and how do I fix it?
By not using unmaintained software. It's as simple as that.
Sven
"By not using unmaintained software. It's as simple as that." answers "How do I fix it?" but not"What does it mean?" Knowing what an error message means is an important part of understanding how things work. Unfortunately I cannot answer that question either. Sven is definitely a greater authority than myself on this (or most any other) subject, but after spending days fighting to move from the kmail1 system to an often aggravating kmail2 (which I am sure will continue to improve) I can completely understand the desire to stick with what works. I am not sure of the specifics, but I strongly suspect the messages you are receiving are related to akonadi. Running kde4 w/out akonadi is like listening to the a high end stereo w/ earplugs, you will miss much of the benefits. But who am I to tell you what is best for your needs. If I was committed to using kmail1 on kde4, then I would disable/uninstall as many akonadi/nepomuk related packages as possible. Then I would disable whatever cannot be uninstalled due to dependencies. I would also be sure that all of the kdepim resources were all of the same version. Whether you choose to try this is your call (and responsibility) BTW, I finally made the move to kmail2 in June because I recognized that the migration tools were not going to improve any further, (and I have no skill to improve them unfortunately). For (openSUSE) kde users kmail1 is a dead end. Most other new distributions will also not support it at all in the near future, so migrating now will save future frustration. The only reliable way to stick with kmail1 at this point is to choose not to take advantage of the benefits received by upgrading, and to choose a distro oriented towards LTS releases. (I would also point out that migration to thunderbird is probably not worth considering either according to recent statements from the mozilla foundation) see ya dh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
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(I would also point out that migration to thunderbird is probably not worth considering either according to recent statements from the mozilla foundation)
No, thunderbird is quite alive. What they decided was that they would not add new features to it for the moment, that the application is complete. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlBM8xUACgkQja8UbcUWM1wkDgD+JMKhKrScLsr4Z5RDVp81+zXm YPD4QMJibcmBfxpQoxIA/2S+G6/CP22aM5q8woQgt+vb2DUvxyUqXmmxkfCWWMML =iTRq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday 09 September 2012 14:45:10 dh wrote:
I am not sure of the specifics, but I strongly suspect the messages you are receiving are related to akonadi. Running kde4 w/out akonadi is like listening to the a high end stereo w/ earplugs, you will miss much of the benefits. But who am I to tell you what is best for your needs.
If I was committed to using kmail1 on kde4, then I would disable/uninstall as many akonadi/nepomuk related packages as possible. Then I would disable whatever cannot be uninstalled due to dependencies. I would also be sure that all of the kdepim resources were all of the same version. Whether you choose to try this is your call (and responsibility)
Hi dh dh It is appreciated that people like you reply and offer help through your experiences and insight. Thank you, but take note of my reply to Will. Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday 08 Sep 2012 01:05:31 Bob S wrote:
Presently runnning 12.1 with KDE3 and 12.2 with KDE4.9 However. in 12.2 I am runniong Kmail 1.9 becauae od the Kmail2 problems.
I copied pver all of the swttings from 12.1 to 12.2 (both being Kmail 1,9) Kmail will not fetch mail in 12.2 with the message "cpild not start process pop3. What am I missing? Setting are both the same in both distros.
I seem to remember a posting about a change in a script or something which disabled something about kmail 2??
Please excuse any typos; Can;t see very well amymore.
The POP3 ioslave used by KMail 1.9 is in the KDE3 package kdebase3-runtime, so it won't be affected by KDE 4. I think the posting you remember (although I don't recall a specific one myself) would have referred to the Akonadi migrator enabled with KDE 4.6, which disabled old kresource API based addressbook and contact resources as they were migrated to Akonadi resources. However, POP3 access before Akonadi used ioslaves, not kresources, so this migration did not affect it. You can use the following technique to see if kdeinit complains when the slave fails to start. You don't need to go as far as attaching gdb, since it appears the slave process just dies. http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Debugging/Debugging_IOSlaves NB use "pop3" as the ioslave to watch, and the example instructions refer to KDE 4, so s/kdeinit4/kdeinit/. Please follow up on the kde3 list though, they may have more suggestions. Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Board, Booster, KDE Developer SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 10 September 2012 06:03:38 Will Stephenson wrote:
The POP3 ioslave used by KMail 1.9 is in the KDE3 package kdebase3-runtime, so it won't be affected by KDE 4.
wOW wILL !! you callled it perfectly right. I installed kdebase3-runtime and now Kmail 1.9 runs perfectly on KDE4. Thank you so much. It is really great that we have guys like you on this list and we all don't all have to run like lemmings into the sea. This isn't Windows after all. Thank you again, so much! Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
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