[opensuse-kde] akonadi && KDE 4.3: Does it help me at all?
I've updated to the current KDE 4.3 version on my openSUSE 11.1 system and tried now to use akonadi - but I haven't figured out a single advantage of it: * I've added the imap resource but where is it used? Is it used by kmail at all? * It seems imap reads only my INBOX and not my other subscribed folders * I'm using groupwise for calendaring which worked fine previously but now my calendar in korganizer is completely empty (not that bad in some way but if you miss important meetings...) * Also the contacts from groupwise do not show up in kmail. So, I have now a mysql server running and some other processes - but see so far only regressions. Is there anybody that can help me to make real usage of akonadi or should I remove kdepim4-runtime and get rid that way of akonadi? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Btw. if this is really the status of akonadi, I strongly suggest to not use it by default with openSUSE 11.2. But I'm interested in getting it to work ;) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On Tuesday 14 July 2009 22:33:25 Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I've updated to the current KDE 4.3 version on my openSUSE 11.1 system and tried now to use akonadi - but I haven't figured out a single advantage of it:
Akonadi is present in 4.3 but it is not production ready - the KDEPIM apps can only use it via a 'bridging' mode. This is disabled by default.
* I've added the imap resource but where is it used? Is it used by kmail at all?
Not in 4.3 by KDEPIM - porting is taking place for 4.4. Slide 23 onwards in my Akademy presentation this year explains the status quo - http://pim.kde.org/akonadi/slides/Akonadi-gcds-2009.pdf .
* It seems imap reads only my INBOX and not my other subscribed folders
The Akonadi IMAP resource in 4.3 is not finished.
* I'm using groupwise for calendaring which worked fine previously but now my calendar in korganizer is completely empty (not that bad in some way but if you miss important meetings...)
That's unrelated Nothing to do with akonadi, the Akonadi GroupWise resource is only pre-alpha.
* Also the contacts from groupwise do not show up in kmail.
Are you using the native (no Akonadi at all) GW resource or using it via the akonadi bridge (which loads the legacy KResource into an Akonadi resource, then exposes the contacts in Akonadi via a KResource that talks to Akonadi on the backend)? The bridging technique was developed then rejected for widespread use because it exposed many interdependencies between contact and calendar resources and synchronous interactions between them, leading to deadlocks. Using GW via a bridge will definitely not work. The native GW resource may well be broken too at the moment, I just don't have time to maintain it. Will
So, I have now a mysql server running and some other processes - but see so far only regressions. Is there anybody that can help me to make real usage of akonadi or should I remove kdepim4-runtime and get rid that way of akonadi?
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On Wednesday 15 July 2009 17:50:26 Will Stephenson wrote:
On Tuesday 14 July 2009 22:33:25 Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I've updated to the current KDE 4.3 version on my openSUSE 11.1 system
and
tried now to use akonadi - but I haven't figured out a single advantage
of
it:
Akonadi is present in 4.3 but it is not production ready - the KDEPIM apps can only use it via a 'bridging' mode. This is disabled by default.
* I've added the imap resource but where is it used? Is it used by kmail at all?
Not in 4.3 by KDEPIM - porting is taking place for 4.4. Slide 23 onwards in my Akademy presentation this year explains the status quo - http://pim.kde.org/akonadi/slides/Akonadi-gcds-2009.pdf .
So, should we discourage kdepim4-runtime ? Or add an extra box to "enable akonadi" for those that want it - right now it gets automatically enabled once you install kdepim4-runtime.
* It seems imap reads only my INBOX and not my other subscribed folders
The Akonadi IMAP resource in 4.3 is not finished.
* I'm using groupwise for calendaring which worked fine previously but
now
my calendar in korganizer is completely empty (not that bad in some way
but
if you miss important meetings...)
That's unrelated Nothing to do with akonadi, the Akonadi GroupWise resource is only pre-alpha.
* Also the contacts from groupwise do not show up in kmail.
Are you using the native (no Akonadi at all) GW resource or using it via the akonadi bridge (which loads the legacy KResource into an Akonadi resource, then exposes the contacts in Akonadi via a KResource that talks to Akonadi on the backend)?
I used the way Akonadi set it up - I guess that's the bridge.
The bridging technique was developed then rejected for widespread use because it exposed many interdependencies between contact and calendar resources and synchronous interactions between them, leading to deadlocks. Using GW via a bridge will definitely not work.
The native GW resource may well be broken too at the moment, I just don't have time to maintain it.
The native GW resource works for me on KDE 4.3 with openSUSE 11.1, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 14 July 2009, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I've updated to the current KDE 4.3 version on my openSUSE 11.1 system and tried now to use akonadi
was it installed by default? that would be a bug. was any application recommending you to install akonadi? if so, which one? I've tried hard to split off the akonadi dependencies.
of akonadi or should I remove kdepim4-runtime and get rid that way of akonadi?
Removing it should be default with KDE 4.3. Greetings, Dirk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 16 July 2009 15:12:07 Dirk Müller wrote:
On Tuesday 14 July 2009, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I've updated to the current KDE 4.3 version on my openSUSE 11.1 system and tried now to use akonadi
was it installed by default? that would be a bug. was any application recommending you to install akonadi? if so, which one? I've tried hard to split off the akonadi dependencies.
Not on my 11.1 systems - and I did not check 11.2 but will do with the next install.
of akonadi or should I remove kdepim4-runtime and get rid that way of akonadi?
Removing it should be default with KDE 4.3.
Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Torsdag den 16. juli 2009 15:12:07 skrev Dirk Müller:
On Tuesday 14 July 2009, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I've updated to the current KDE 4.3 version on my openSUSE 11.1 system and tried now to use akonadi
was it installed by default? that would be a bug. was any application recommending you to install akonadi? if so, which one? I've tried hard to split off the akonadi dependencies.
After updating my 11.1 with kde4:factory to 4.3rc3 (from rc2) Akonadi took control. cb400f@worKstation:~> rpm -q --whatrequires kdepim4-runtime kjots-4.2.98-143.2 cb400f@worKstation:~> Looks like KJots is the culprit in my case. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
* Martin Schlander
After updating my 11.1 with kde4:factory to 4.3rc3 (from rc2) Akonadi took control.
cb400f@worKstation:~> rpm -q --whatrequires kdepim4-runtime kjots-4.2.98-143.2 cb400f@worKstation:~>
Looks like KJots is the culprit in my case.
I have the same on 11.2m3/m4, and should this conversation be moved to factory? -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
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