[opensuse-kde] problem installing KDE 4.11RC1 on 12.3
Hi, Most packages installed except kdepim related ones. When I try to install kmail I get a "...4.10.95... requires libsendlater.so.4 ...' with several actions of which I chose "deinstall python-kde4- akonadi-4.10.5" python-kde4 requires python-sip(api)=9.2 but this does not seem to be available. Sending this while my kmail is still working ;) Regards, Con Hennessy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 17 of July 2013 10:38:22 CP Hennessy wrote:
Hi, Most packages installed except kdepim related ones. Hi Con, i would like to ask how did you perform upgrade to 4.11 rc1? Usually, a zypper dup --from kdf should be good to go. On the next part of the question, python-sip(api) = 9.2 is provided with python-sip-4.14.6 package, which should also be available in kdf repository.
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On 17/07/13 21:23, šumski wrote:
On Wednesday 17 of July 2013 10:38:22 CP Hennessy wrote:
Hi, Most packages installed except kdepim related ones. Hi Con, i would like to ask how did you perform upgrade to 4.11 rc1? Usually, a zypper dup --from kdf should be good to go. On the next part of the question, python-sip(api) = 9.2 is provided with python-sip-4.14.6 package, which should also be available in kdf repository.
In the "zypper dup --from kdf" what is the *exact* and *full* name of the repo, thanks. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.5 & kernel 3.10.1-2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 18 of July 2013 00:57:04 Basil Chupin wrote:
In the "zypper dup --from kdf" what is the *exact* and *full* name of the repo, thanks. However you called it in the zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Distro:/Factory/openSUSE_12.3... $reponame step -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 18/07/13 01:07, šumski wrote:
On Thursday 18 of July 2013 00:57:04 Basil Chupin wrote:
In the "zypper dup --from kdf" what is the *exact* and *full* name of the repo, thanks. However you called it in the zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Distro:/Factory/openSUSE_12.3... $reponame step
Thank you. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.5 & kernel 3.10.1-2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Doh! Thanks Sumski, that was my issue. Looks good so far. The only issue I came across was that kscreen clashed with krandr. I assume that breaking the kde workspace package as krandr is removed and replaced with kscreen is a reasonable thing to do. CPH On Wednesday 17 July 2013 and šumski wrote:
On Wednesday 17 of July 2013 10:38:22 CP Hennessy wrote:
Hi,
Most packages installed except kdepim related ones.
Hi Con, i would like to ask how did you perform upgrade to 4.11 rc1? Usually, a zypper dup --from kdf should be good to go. On the next part of the question, python-sip(api) = 9.2 is provided with python-sip-4.14.6 package, which should also be available in kdf repository. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 17 of July 2013 16:00:44 CP Hennessy wrote:
Doh! Thanks Sumski, that was my issue.
Looks good so far. The only issue I came across was that kscreen clashed with krandr. I assume that breaking the kde workspace package as krandr is removed and replaced with kscreen is a reasonable thing to do. Correct. That should be fixed when the next build publishes. (eta - later today, early tomorrow)
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On 2013-07-17 17:05 (GMT+0200) šumski composed:
CP Hennessy wrote:
The only issue I came across was that kscreen clashed with krandr. I assume that breaking the kde workspace package as krandr is removed and replaced with kscreen is a reasonable thing to do.
Correct. That should be fixed when the next build publishes. (eta - later today, early tomorrow)
This seems to indicate a conflict with Raymond's statement that krandr will remain an option in 4.11: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2013-07/msg00003.html Krandr removal prior to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317929 fix inclusion will break my installations. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 17 of July 2013 12:03:29 Felix Miata wrote:
This seems to indicate a conflict with Raymond's statement that krandr will remain an option in 4.11: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2013-07/msg00003.html But in line with the announcement two days ago: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2013-07/msg00072.html
Krandr removal prior to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317929 fix inclusion will break my installations. Just for clarity, is it krandr removal, or kscreen usage? If krandr removal, then i guess you can force break kdebase4-workspace requires, if the latter, then you can just disable KSCreen's kded module. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-07-17 18:27 (GMT+0200) šumski composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
This seems to indicate a conflict with Raymond's statement that krandr will remain an option in 4.11: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2013-07/msg00003.html
But in line with the announcement two days ago: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2013-07/msg00072.html
Like when distros other than openSUSE replaced Grub Legacy with Grub2 instead of keeping the former as an option for those for whom the newer isn't mature enough to substitute? Dejavu systemd? Rawhide is available for those who need bleeding edge.
Krandr removal prior to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317929 fix inclusion will break my installations.
Just for clarity, is it krandr removal, or kscreen usage?
All I know for sure is that krandr disregards xorg.conf, which constitutes the breakage.
If krandr removal, then i guess you can force break kdebase4-workspace requires, if the latter, then you can just disable KSCreen's kded module.
The problem with kded disabling is I never seem to be able to put my eyes on how to globally configure things in KDE. How would one disable kded globally? And while I'm asking, how does one override '1024 ? 35 : 27' with '1024 ? 47 : 35' in /usr/share/kde4/apps/plasma/layout-templates/org.kde.plasma-desktop.defaultPanel/contents/layout.js? Each upgrade overwrites if I edit it directly. Default panel height is always too short for clock text size easy to read from across the room, and always makes icons little short of uselessly tiny. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 17 of July 2013 13:08:06 Felix Miata wrote:
Rawhide is available for those who need bleeding edge. So is Factory and it's devel projects.
All I know for sure is that krandr disregards xorg.conf, which constitutes the breakage. I guess you meant KScreen.
The problem with kded disabling is I never seem to be able to put my eyes on how to globally configure things in KDE. How would one disable kded globally? /etc/kde4/share/config/kdedrc with your option inside. For kscreen, that would be: [Module-kscreen] autoload=false
And while I'm asking, how does one override '1024 ? 35 : 27' with '1024 ? 47 : 35' in
/usr/share/kde4/apps/plasma/layout-templates/org.kde.plasma-desktop.defaultP anel/contents/layout.js? Same principle as the above, only not share/config, but share/apps. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-07-17 19:37 (GMT+0200) šumski composed:
On Wednesday 17 of July 2013 13:08:06 Felix Miata wrote:
Rawhide is available for those who need bleeding edge.
So is Factory and it's devel projects.
Projects, I agree. Factory I see as generally more conservative, if for no other reason than more thinly spread developer resources.
All I know for sure is that krandr disregards xorg.conf, which constitutes the breakage.
I guess you meant KScreen.
Indeed.
The problem with kded disabling is I never seem to be able to put my eyes on how to globally configure things in KDE. How would one disable kded globally?
/etc/kde4/share/config/kdedrc with your option inside. For kscreen, that would be: [Module-kscreen] autoload=false
Thank you.
And while I'm asking, how does one override '1024 ? 35 : 27' with '1024 ? 47 : 35' in
/usr/share/kde4/apps/plasma/layout-templates/org.kde.plasma-desktop.defaultP anel/contents/layout.js?
Same principle as the above, only not share/config, but share/apps.
And again. :-) Which doc group contains such instruction (if any)? I would like to be able to find such answers without Xorg running, or asking here or Google. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 17 of July 2013 14:05:33 Felix Miata wrote:
Which doc group contains such instruction (if any)? I would like to be able to find such answers without Xorg running, or asking here or Google. I'm not aware something like that exists, but probably http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Environment_Variables http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kdelibs.git&a=blob&h=b95002d0403f94f0155eeae5f28351c917be1750&f=kdecore%2Fdoc%2FREADME.kiosk&o=plain would be the best places to start. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-07-17 14:05 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed:
On 2013-07-17 19:37 (GMT+0200) šumski composed:
/etc/kde4/share/config/kdedrc with your option inside. For kscreen, that would be: [Module-kscreen] autoload=false
And while I'm asking, how does one override '1024 ? 35 : 27' with '1024 ? 47 : 35' in
/usr/share/kde4/apps/plasma/layout-templates/org.kde.plasma-desktop.defaultP anel/contents/layout.js?
Same principle as the above, only not share/config, but share/apps.
My first attempts to try these on host m7ncd on 13.1M3 produced a bunch of Plasma Desktop Shell KDE Crash Handler windows after the splash got to the last icon. All but one such window on each attempt autoclosed. The sole remainder sat on an otherwise empty black screen. Plasma-desktop PID #### segfaulted. Closing those windows left black screens with a mouse pointer. Ctrl-Alt-BS leaves .xsession-errors empty. Trying report bug function from the window was pointless with my normal xorg.conf or no xorg.conf, as default sizing is all too small @1600x1200. The attempt though produced non-empty .xsession-errors: http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/SUSE/Factory/xsession-errors-m7ncd-kde41090.txt . I tried again by forcing lower resolution, but the process lacked 10 required debugging files, so I quit. I did one more start without the custom layout.js file and got same failure, then with neither, and failed again. Switching repos from factory-snapshot to factory and doing zypper dup didn't help. Gfx is rv200. Next I tried another M3 system with Intel gfxchip. Autoload=false as you indicated works, but layout.js has no apparent effect. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 18/07/13 01:05, šumski wrote:
On Wednesday 17 of July 2013 16:00:44 CP Hennessy wrote:
Doh! Thanks Sumski, that was my issue.
Looks good so far. The only issue I came across was that kscreen clashed with krandr. I assume that breaking the kde workspace package as krandr is removed and replaced with kscreen is a reasonable thing to do. Correct. That should be fixed when the next build publishes. (eta - later today, early tomorrow)
I am wondering if this has now been accomplished? I am on the verge of doing the 'dup --from' quick-step and it would be nicer if it didn't involve having a hassle with this kdandr and kscreen 'thing' :-) . BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.5 & kernel 3.10.1-3 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 18 of July 2013 13:57:34 Basil Chupin wrote:
I am wondering if this has now been accomplished? It has :-)
I am on the verge of doing the 'dup --from' quick-step and it would be nicer if it didn't involve having a hassle with this kdandr and kscreen 'thing' :-) .
It should be good to go now. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 18/07/13 20:52, šumski wrote:
On Thursday 18 of July 2013 13:57:34 Basil Chupin wrote:
I am wondering if this has now been accomplished? It has :-)
I am on the verge of doing the 'dup --from' quick-step and it would be nicer if it didn't involve having a hassle with this kdandr and kscreen 'thing' :-) . It should be good to go now.
Thanks. Held off until now and 4.11 going in in about 2 minutes from now :-) . BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.5 & kernel 3.10.1-3 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 18/07/13 20:52, šumski wrote:
On Thursday 18 of July 2013 13:57:34 Basil Chupin wrote:
I am wondering if this has now been accomplished? It has :-)
I am on the verge of doing the 'dup --from' quick-step and it would be nicer if it didn't involve having a hassle with this kdandr and kscreen 'thing' :-) . It should be good to go now.
Nah, didn't go thru with trying to install 4.11 - too many dependency errors, the resolution of which is mind-boggling with each one having mutiple choice actions which are a lot of gooblydook for a mere mortal to understand/work out :-( . BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.10.5 & kernel 3.10.1-3 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 18/07/13 20:52, šumski wrote:
On Thursday 18 of July 2013 13:57:34 Basil Chupin wrote:
I am wondering if this has now been accomplished? It has :-)
I am on the verge of doing the 'dup --from' quick-step and it would be nicer if it didn't involve having a hassle with this kdandr and kscreen 'thing' :-) . It should be good to go now.
Hi, I just did a dup --from..... and upgraded to 4.11 RC but then YaST announced that it still had some files to update. However, when I went to do the updates I got these dependency problems: http://susepaste.org/14042327 Which of the choices need to be selected, please, to compete the update? BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.11.0 & kernel 3.10.1-3 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Which of the choices need to be selected, please, to compete the update? Hi Basil, best would be to break kdebase4-runtime and kwin packages, and
On Saturday 20 of July 2013 00:12:22 Basil Chupin wrote: then check that you have correct branding packages from kdf. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 20/07/13 00:35, šumski wrote:
Which of the choices need to be selected, please, to compete the update? Hi Basil, best would be to break kdebase4-runtime and kwin packages, and
On Saturday 20 of July 2013 00:12:22 Basil Chupin wrote: then check that you have correct branding packages from kdf.
OK, shall try it. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.3, KDE 4.11.0 & kernel 3.10.1-3 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
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