On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 04:35:15PM +0000, Tor Sigurdsson wrote: -> I have posted the solution to this before ( SuSE 7.3 ) Thanks, I did all that and it still doesn't work. It complains about bad parameters in the kdmrc, respawns several times and exits with a sig 11. I tried both commenting out and removing the lines it was upset about, now it doesn't complain, it just respawns three times and then exits with a sig 11. It has something to do with the kdm_greeter, because that is what segfaults. Right now I'm running kde3 from the kde2 kdm, and that works fine, so it's an OK workaround until my SuSE 8.0 package arrives, at which time I'll upgrade and will have some entirely new set of issues to deal with. ;-) Michael -- Michael Nelson San Francisco, CA