[opensuse-kde] Changing date/time format?
How do I make all dates and times /in KDE/ to be shown in the following format if the 'date' command returns "Mon Nov 23 21:53:13 EST 2015": Date: "2015-11-23" Time (no AM/PM): "21:51" I am in the United States but prefer the formats above. Under KDE4 with another distro I figured this out, but can't find it in OpenSUSE's KDE4. Yes, I also know that KDE5 does NOT support customization of formats, which is one of MANY reasons I switched to OpenSUSE. Thanks in advance, Emilio The information contained in this transmission contains privileged and confidential information. It is intended only for the use of the person named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. CAUTION: Intended recipients should NOT use email communication for emergent or urgent health care matters.
Emilio Recio composed on 2015-11-24 02:56 (UTC):
How do I make all dates and times /in KDE/ to be shown in the following format if the 'date' command returns "Mon Nov 23 21:53:13 EST 2015":
Date: "2015-11-23" Time (no AM/PM): "21:51"
I am in the United States but prefer the formats above. Under KDE4 with another distro I figured this out, but can't find it in OpenSUSE's KDE4.
Yes, I also know that KDE5 does NOT support customization of formats, which is one of MANY reasons I switched to OpenSUSE.
AFAICT, no one can do what you (and I) want, just one of many reasons KDE4 should have remained supported upstream (and in openSUSE) until at least two more years' worth of releases of KDE5 beyond the termination that already took place last summer. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340982 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 22:49:47 -0500
Felix Miata
Emilio Recio composed on 2015-11-24 02:56 (UTC):
How do I make all dates and times /in KDE/ to be shown in the following format if the 'date' command returns "Mon Nov 23 21:53:13 EST 2015":
Date: "2015-11-23" Time (no AM/PM): "21:51"
I am in the United States but prefer the formats above. Under KDE4 with another distro I figured this out, but can't find it in OpenSUSE's KDE4.
Yes, I also know that KDE5 does NOT support customization of formats, which is one of MANY reasons I switched to OpenSUSE.
AFAICT, no one can do what you (and I) want, just one of many reasons KDE4 should have remained supported upstream (and in openSUSE) until at least two more years' worth of releases of KDE5 beyond the termination that already took place last summer. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340982
Date/time format can be changed (in KDE4) by opening Desktop Configuration (from start menu) > Common Appearance & Behaviour > Locale > Country/Region & Language > Date & Time. Click on the Help button and you should be able to figure out the changes necessary. Long date format would be similar to: "SHORTWEEKDAY, DD SHORTMONTH YYYY". Thanks, Tom KG7CFC -- When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. - Anonymous ^^ --... ...-- / -.- --. --... -.-. ..-. -.-. ^^^^ Tom Taylor KG7CFC openSUSE 13.1 (64-bit), Kernel 3.11.6-4-default, KDE 4.11.2, AMD A8-7600, GeForce GTX 740 T/PCIe/ 16GB RAM -- 3x1.5TB sata2 -- 128GB-SSD FF 37.0, claws-mail 3.10.1 registered linux user 263467 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/23/2015 10:49 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
AFAICT, no one can do what you (and I) want,
DUH? Then there's something wrong with my system since that's what I have. I wonder how THAT happened? Perhaps it systemsetting -> locale where I have date/time set to YYYY-MM-DD and HH:MM:SS .... cos I like seeing second roll over :-) -- "The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward composed on 2015-11-24 00:44 (UTC-0500):
Felix Miata wrote:
AFAICT, no one can do what you (and I) want, ... https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340982 ...
DUH?
Then there's something wrong with my system since that's what I have. I wonder how THAT happened?
Perhaps it systemsetting -> locale where I have date/time set to
YYYY-MM-DD and HH:MM:SS .... cos I like seeing second roll over :-)
In v5? I had a brain fart. Careful reading of both what I wrote, and more importantly, the URL provided, should have made evident what I wrote applied to v5, not as the OP asked to KDE4. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/23/2015 09:56 PM, Emilio Recio wrote:
How do I make all dates and times /in KDE/ to be shown in the following format if the 'date' command returns "Mon Nov 23 21:53:13 EST 2015":
Date: "2015-11-23" Time (no AM/PM): "21:51"
I am in the United States but prefer the formats above. Under KDE4 with another distro I figured this out, but can't find it in OpenSUSE's KDE4.
Just to clarify: 1. the 'date' command, like the 'ls; command, are not part of KDE See the respective man pages for how to alter their formatting See also the environment setting for LOCALE set in your shell startup try 'date -I' 2. yes this is broken in "KDE5" but not in KDE4. -- Try to learn something about everything and everything about something. Thomas H. Huxley -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
In KDE5 there is no way to format the date/time, you can only pick the country. On 11/24/15 00:44, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 11/23/2015 10:49 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
AFAICT, no one can do what you (and I) want,
DUH?
Then there's something wrong with my system since that's what I have. I wonder how THAT happened?
Perhaps it systemsetting -> locale where I have date/time set to
YYYY-MM-DD and HH:MM:SS .... cos I like seeing second roll over :-)
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On 11/24/2015 08:58 AM, Emilio Recio wrote:
In KDE5 there is no way to format the date/time, you can only pick the country.
So? What's your problem? Define a new 'country', call it perhaps "en_myversion". Set it with the values you want & compile it. See appropriate man pages. If you don't want to do that, then you can define the values on the book command line. RTFM locale.conf(5) Alternatively you could have an entry in the system wide file /etc/locale.conf for LC_TIME If it comes down to that, you could arrange that KDE start from a script where LC_TIME has been set. These options set LC_TIME *only* so you just find a "country" that has the time values you want and use that , you don't have to adopt *every* locale value of that country, -- Every civilization that has ever existed has ultimately collapsed. -- Henry Kissinger -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
In KDE4 it just worked fine! You could format it like using the date command. Further even though I cannot select 24 hour time, or format my date, my week starts on a monday(!) it should start on a sunday. In KDE4 I wouldn't get desktop seg faults all the time. In KDE4 I my system tray would not be broken (xembed). This is why I am sticking with KDE4. On 11/24/15 12:11, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 11/24/2015 08:58 AM, Emilio Recio wrote:
In KDE5 there is no way to format the date/time, you can only pick the country.
So? What's your problem?
Define a new 'country', call it perhaps "en_myversion". Set it with the values you want & compile it. See appropriate man pages.
If you don't want to do that, then you can define the values on the book command line. RTFM locale.conf(5)
Alternatively you could have an entry in the system wide file /etc/locale.conf for LC_TIME
If it comes down to that, you could arrange that KDE start from a script where LC_TIME has been set.
These options set LC_TIME *only* so you just find a "country" that has the time values you want and use that , you don't have to adopt *every* locale value of that country,
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In data martedì 1 dicembre 2015 17:22:16 CET, Emilio Recio ha scritto: Hello,
This is why I am sticking with KDE4.
I would encorage you to file bugs against problems you find in Plasma 5 (even if by testing it from time to time). Keeping with Plasma 4.x on the long run will not be sustainable for a number of reasons: - openSUSE 13.2 will go EOL sooner or later; - The Qt 4.x toolkit, which is the base for kdelibs 4.x and all the 4.x applications, will also go EOL by the end of the year; - Upstream KDE has ceased support and development of Plasma 4.x. At least IMO, if anyone wants to keep 4.x running, you're welcome to do so, no one will stop you. However, it will not be supported by the team and it'll likely not to get back in the main distro repos. -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team KDE Science supporter GPG key ID: A29D259B
On Tuesday 01 December 2015 19:48:46 Luca Beltrame wrote:
In data martedì 1 dicembre 2015 17:22:16 CET, Emilio Recio ha scritto:
Hello,
This is why I am sticking with KDE4.
I would encorage you to file bugs against problems you find in Plasma 5 (even if by testing it from time to time). Keeping with Plasma 4.x on the long run will not be sustainable for a number of reasons:
- openSUSE 13.2 will go EOL sooner or later; - The Qt 4.x toolkit, which is the base for kdelibs 4.x and all the 4.x applications, will also go EOL by the end of the year; - Upstream KDE has ceased support and development of Plasma 4.x.
At least IMO, if anyone wants to keep 4.x running, you're welcome to do so, no one will stop you. However, it will not be supported by the team and it'll likely not to get back in the main distro repos.
... and the upstream devs are totally open to bug reports and feature requests - send one in please, so these things can be fixed! -- Jos Poortvliet (jos@owncloud.com) ownCloud Community Manager ownCloud GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, Holger Dyroff, Frank Karlitschek Schloßäckerstrasse 26a, 90443 Nürnberg, HRB 28050 (AG Nürnberg)
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