Re: [opensuse-kde] kmail question
On Tuesday 04 March 2008 06:55:29 Bob S wrote:
On Tuesday 04 March 2008 12:20:11 am Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Monday 03 March 2008 21:02, Bob S wrote:
I would like to forward some emails to another user within kmail. Is it possible?
One of the many available KMail filter actions is "Forward To," so it would seem the answer is "yes."
Man, Randall you are fast.!! I just posted that. Another nut-job like me sitting at the computer after midnight.
Thanks for the reply but wouldn't the "forward to" send it baack out to the ISP and then return it to the same original email address?
Maybe I wasn't clear enough. Just want to forward it to another user on the same computer. (separate but different user accounts)
Wouldn't that entail setting up some "Local account" to forward it to without going outside the system?
I know people who share one email address and one user account, but one email address and two user accounts is almost outside kmail's competency. It's designed for one linux user account. To do it right you should use fetchmail and an MTA like postfix + sieve to filter the mails into each user's mailbox. I thought you might be able to graunch it inside kmail by combining a Forward To rule with a Set Transport To rule to use local sendmail to forward to the other user without leaving the computer again, but it appears that the Set Transport To and Set Identity rules only work on sent mail (as you would expect). Will -- Will Stephenson Desktop Engineer KDE Team --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 04 March 2008 2:20:50 Will Stephenson wrote:
On Tuesday 04 March 2008 06:55:29 Bob S wrote:
On Tuesday 04 March 2008 12:20:11 am Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Monday 03 March 2008 21:02, Bob S wrote:
I would like to forward some emails to another user within kmail. Is it possible?
One of the many available KMail filter actions is "Forward To," so it would seem the answer is "yes."
Man, Randall you are fast.!! I just posted that. Another nut-job like me sitting at the computer after midnight.
Thanks for the reply but wouldn't the "forward to" send it baack out to the ISP and then return it to the same original email address?
Maybe I wasn't clear enough. Just want to forward it to another user on the same computer. (separate but different user accounts)
Wouldn't that entail setting up some "Local account" to forward it to without going outside the system?
I know people who share one email address and one user account, but one email address and two user accounts is almost outside kmail's competency. It's designed for one linux user account.
I have something like 10.2 installed on my desktop machine and kmail handles both email addresses just fine. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. But all you need to do is set up a local receiving account and a sendmail sending account (or whatever you may have named the computer on the network), and then you can send an email, using the local sending account, to (user)@localhost and it'll go to the right place. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 04 March 2008, Constantinos Maltezos said:
I know people who share one email address and one user account, but one email address and two user accounts is almost outside kmail's competency. It's designed for one linux user account.
I have something like 10.2 installed on my desktop machine and kmail handles both email addresses just fine. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying.
Yes, you are, like you got your distros confused before. The OP wants to use kmail as a MTA to filter some incoming (POPped I guess) mails from one email address, to another local mailbox (aka linux user account). Will -- Desktop Engineer KDE Team --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 04 March 2008 04:05:01 am Will Stephenson wrote:
On Tuesday 04 March 2008, Constantinos Maltezos said:
I know people who share one email address and one user account, but one email address and two user accounts is almost outside kmail's competency. It's designed for one linux user account.
I have something like 10.2 installed on my desktop machine and kmail handles both email addresses just fine. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying.
Yes, you are, like you got your distros confused before. The OP wants to use kmail as a MTA to filter some incoming (POPped I guess) mails from one email address, to another local mailbox (aka linux user account).
Yes Will. I download (popped) mail to my kmail. Now I want to forward some of the mail to my wife. Same computer, different user account with her own kmail. She will not download mail from our joint email address because she doesn't want "all that other garbage" I get. (quite a bit) Just wants stuff that pertain to her interests. So it is up to me to screen the mail and give her her stuff. I've been printing her stuff and leaving it for her but that is really getting old. Not to mention the wasted paper. Bob S --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 04 March 2008 8:38:45 Bob S wrote:
On Tuesday 04 March 2008 04:05:01 am Will Stephenson wrote:
On Tuesday 04 March 2008, Constantinos Maltezos said:
I know people who share one email address and one user account, but one email address and two user accounts is almost outside kmail's competency. It's designed for one linux user account.
I have something like 10.2 installed on my desktop machine and kmail handles both email addresses just fine. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying.
Yes, you are, like you got your distros confused before. The OP wants to use kmail as a MTA to filter some incoming (POPped I guess) mails from one email address, to another local mailbox (aka linux user account).
Yes Will. I download (popped) mail to my kmail. Now I want to forward some of the mail to my wife. Same computer, different user account with her own kmail. She will not download mail from our joint email address because she doesn't want "all that other garbage" I get. (quite a bit) Just wants stuff that pertain to her interests. So it is up to me to screen the mail and give her her stuff. I've been printing her stuff and leaving it for her but that is really getting old. Not to mention the wasted paper.
This is what I thought. He doesn't want kmail to filter the mail, he wants to do it by hand, in which case what I was saying should be sufficient. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 04 March 2008 10:38:36 pm Constantinos Maltezos wrote:
On Tuesday 04 March 2008 8:38:45 Bob S wrote:
Yes Will. I download (popped) mail to my kmail. Now I want to forward some of the mail to my wife. Same computer, different user account with her own kmail. She will not download mail from our joint email address because she doesn't want "all that other garbage" I get. (quite a bit) Just wants stuff that pertain to her interests. So it is up to me to screen the mail and give her her stuff. I've been printing her stuff and leaving it for her but that is really getting old. Not to mention the wasted paper.
This is what I thought. He doesn't want kmail to filter the mail, he wants to do it by hand, in which case what I was saying should be sufficient.
Yes Constantinos, except what you were saying is insufficient, or I am not understanding it properly. Yes, I have a Local account set up for both me and my wife in kmail. My Local account is to receive emails for root. Her's is to receive emails supposedly from me. If I go to Yast>Network Services>Mail TransferAgent, (doesnt say if it is Postfix, Sendmail, Procmail or whatever) but is not automatically set up. It must be configured. It all seems to be for sending or receiving mails from/to the "outside", not locally. It is not very intuitive. All I want to do is forward received mails from one user to another. Is there a howto for whatever that MTA is in Yast? Bob S --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 06:06:42 Bob S wrote:
On Tuesday 04 March 2008 10:38:36 pm Constantinos Maltezos wrote:
On Tuesday 04 March 2008 8:38:45 Bob S wrote:
Yes Will. I download (popped) mail to my kmail. Now I want to forward some of the mail to my wife. Same computer, different user account with her own kmail. She will not download mail from our joint email address because she doesn't want "all that other garbage" I get. (quite a bit) Just wants stuff that pertain to her interests. So it is up to me to screen the mail and give her her stuff. I've been printing her stuff and leaving it for her but that is really getting old. Not to mention the wasted paper.
This is what I thought. He doesn't want kmail to filter the mail, he wants to do it by hand, in which case what I was saying should be sufficient.
Yes Constantinos, except what you were saying is insufficient, or I am not understanding it properly. Yes, I have a Local account set up for both me and my wife in kmail. My Local account is to receive emails for root. Her's is to receive emails supposedly from me. If I go to Yast>Network Services>Mail TransferAgent, (doesnt say if it is Postfix, Sendmail, Procmail or whatever) but is not automatically set up. It must be configured. It all seems to be for sending or receiving mails from/to the "outside", not locally. It is not very intuitive.
All I want to do is forward received mails from one user to another.
Is there a howto for whatever that MTA is in Yast?
Bob S
Bob Try this: 1. Using Yast - Software - Software management, install 'postfix'. It may already be installed, mine was. 2 Go to Yast - Network Services - Mail Transfer agent 3 Choose 'Standard' and click on 'next'. 4. When General Settings appears, choose 'no connection to internet'. Click on Finish. 5 In your own kmail, go to Settings - Configure kmail - accounts - sending If you haven't done so already, add another account, and choose 'sendmail' as the transport. 6 In your wife's kmail, go to Settings - configure kmail - receiving Add another account, and choose local mailbox. Accept the defaults. 7 To forward mails to your wife, right click on the mail message and choose 'redirect' . Enter your_wife's_name@localhost in the box and then CHOOSE 'SEND LATER'. This is important as otherwise your default mail transport will be used, and you will get an error message. 8 When you've redirected all your wife's messages in this way, click on your outbox in kmail, and then on File - Send all queued messages via - sendmail. 9 Uncross your fingers, and check that the mails have been received. Depending on your kmail settings, you may have to manually check mail from your wife's local account. -- regards John johnmking_uk@yahoo.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 03:38:53 am John King wrote: .......<snjp a whole bunch>......
All I want to do is forward received mails from one user to another.
Is there a howto for whatever that MTA is in Yast?
Bob S
Bob Try this:
1. Using Yast - Software - Software management, install 'postfix'. It may already be installed, mine was.
2 Go to Yast - Network Services - Mail Transfer agent
3 Choose 'Standard' and click on 'next'.
4. When General Settings appears, choose 'no connection to internet'. Click on Finish.
5 In your own kmail, go to Settings - Configure kmail - accounts - sending If you haven't done so already, add another account, and choose 'sendmail' as the transport.
6 In your wife's kmail, go to Settings - configure kmail - receiving Add another account, and choose local mailbox. Accept the defaults.
7 To forward mails to your wife, right click on the mail message and choose 'redirect' . Enter your_wife's_name@localhost in the box and then CHOOSE 'SEND LATER'. This is important as otherwise your default mail transport will be used, and you will get an error message.
8 When you've redirected all your wife's messages in this way, click on your outbox in kmail, and then on File - Send all queued messages via - sendmail.
9 Uncross your fingers, and check that the mails have been received. Depending on your kmail settings, you may have to manually check mail from your wife's local account.
Thanks so much John, Worked like a charm. Not so hard when you know what to do. Thanks again. Bob S --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 04 March 2008, Bob S wrote:
On Tuesday 04 March 2008 04:05:01 am Will Stephenson wrote:
On Tuesday 04 March 2008, Constantinos Maltezos said: ------------snip----------
Yes Will. I download (popped) mail to my kmail. Now I want to forward some of the mail to my wife. Same computer, different user account with her own kmail. She will not download mail from our joint email address because she doesn't want "all that other garbage" I get. (quite a bit) Just wants stuff that pertain to her interests. So it is up to me to screen the mail and give her her stuff. I've been printing her stuff and leaving it for her but that is really getting old. Not to mention the wasted paper.
Quoting your first message I know that I could probably do it with postfix or whatever but would like to keep life simple and just use kmail. This is the solution I would use... Set up a gmail account for your wife and have her use that for her regular mail, then you can forward the mail you recieve (and that she wants) to her gmail address. I use kmail to manage my gmail with no problems. Problem solved ............................................................................................. Consider what follows to be a thought experiment. I don't know if it would really work but I don't see why it wouldn't. I'd be interested to hear what others think about this idea but I won't waste much time defending it. (If I knew what I was doing I'd probably set up postfix or whatever the proper tool is :) If you try this then back up things you don't want to lose first. I am sure there are security risks to what I am going to suggest but for a personal computer that is shared w/ your wife they may be acceptable. I am also IGNORING one possible problem, that is the kmail lock file ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/lock I am thinking that by only having yourself download the mail this might not be an issue. I don't know... 1) Set your wifes kmail preferences so that she does not download mail. 2) Set your preferences to automatically download your mail on a regular basis (so she doesn't need to). 3) Create a new folder in your kmail "Wifes Name" 4) Stop both instances of kmail 5) set up a group "our_mail" with yourself and your wife as members (you can do this w/ yast) 6) Change the permissions of your ~/Mail so that the group is "our_mail" rather than "users" 7) Give write access to your ~/Mail (and to the files and directories beneath it to the group "our_mail" (rather than "users"). (This can be done w/ konqueror's properties -> permissions Dialog, make the owner and group permissions (rwxrwxr-x) put a checkmark next to "Apply...to all folders and their contents" and apply. 8) rename your wifes ~/Mail to something like ~/mail.orig she won't have access to her old messages but there is probably a way to import them if you want. 9) Create a link from home/your_account/Mail to /home/wifes account/Mail (Basically linking her ~/Mail folder to your ~/Mail folder) From now on just filter, drag or copy your wifes mail to her folder Now your wife should be able to read the mail from her folder and ignore the stuff (other folders) she doesn't care about. She will be able to read any mail in your mailbox so you might want a web based mailbox for all of your Victoria's Secret emails ;-) Any filters that you want to use for incoming mail will have to be set up in your account but either one of you should be able to delete or move messages. As I said at the start, this is just an idea. Its probably best to go the gmail rout or learn about postfix but this might just work See ya -- dh --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org
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