Hi, In KMail 1.8 (KDE 3.4.2) I could mark a whole topic thread as "read". Now the "Mark Thread" sub-menu of the Message menu has only "Watch Thread" and "Ignore Thread." What gives? I've looked through the Preferences dialog, but I can't find any way to enable these commands. Are they simply gone? If not, how might I get them back? If so, why?? Randall Schulz
On Friday 09 December 2005 22:16, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Hi,
In KMail 1.8 (KDE 3.4.2) I could mark a whole topic thread as "read". Now the "Mark Thread" sub-menu of the Message menu has only "Watch Thread" and "Ignore Thread."
What gives? I've looked through the Preferences dialog, but I can't find any way to enable these commands. Are they simply gone? If not, how might I get them back? If so, why??
Randall Schulz ======
Looks like it's been moved to the "shortcuts" list to me. I thought there was a way to edit the menu, but I don't see anything. Many things have changed in the 1.9 build. It's like going into your favorite store and they've moved everything around, you suddenly have to look all over to find what you want. ;o) Lee
Harrumph! It gets worse. SHIFT-DEL, though it's shown in the Shortcuts dialog as being associated with the "Delete" action, does not in fact do anything. Furthermore, the Delete action does not appear in the context menu of the mailbox list pane nor of the message preview pane nor in any of the menu-bar menus. Why would they remove all these functions? What the hell is going on? Are they trying to turn KMail in a mail client for babies? Actually, I cannot believe this is intended. Rather, I think it's probably an inadvertent consequence of the series of upgrades I've done over the years. While KDE applications are infamous with me for resetting all my toolbar customization whenever I make a .N upgrade (say, from 3.4.x to 3.5.x), I suspect there are some more insidious side-effects of keeping the same configuration files I've had since I installed SuSE 9.0 and upgraded to 9.1, then 9.3 and now 10.0. Randall Schulz On Friday 09 December 2005 19:16, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Hi,
In KMail 1.8 (KDE 3.4.2) I could mark a whole topic thread as "read". Now the "Mark Thread" sub-menu of the Message menu has only "Watch Thread" and "Ignore Thread."
What gives? I've looked through the Preferences dialog, but I can't find any way to enable these commands. Are they simply gone? If not, how might I get them back? If so, why??
Randall Schulz
Op zaterdag 10 december 2005 07:08, schreef Randall R Schulz:
Harrumph!
It gets worse. SHIFT-DEL, though it's shown in the Shortcuts dialog as being associated with the "Delete" action, does not in fact do anything. Furthermore, the Delete action does not appear in the context menu of the mailbox list pane nor of the message preview pane nor in any of the menu-bar menus.
I noticed that I have buttons sometimes twice to get them through. Perhaps you have that problem too? I had a custom key 'o' for unread mail, after the upgrade this was gone.... I had to configure that again, what I did not expect.... Anyway that works now again. -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
On Saturday 10 December 2005 07:08, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Harrumph!
It gets worse. SHIFT-DEL, though it's shown in the Shortcuts dialog as being associated with the "Delete" action, does not in fact do anything. Furthermore, the Delete action does not appear in the context menu of the mailbox list pane nor of the message preview pane nor in any of the menu-bar menus.
Why would they remove all these functions? What the hell is going on? Are they trying to turn KMail in a mail client for babies?
shift-delete works for me, so this must be a local problem on your machine I do note though that the first time I do it, I get the "are you really sure, you can't undo this" popup, and there's a "don't ask me again" checkbox. Could it be that you have clicked "no" on this while the "don't ask me again" box was ticked? Have a look through your kmailrc to see if the setting is in there
Op zaterdag 10 december 2005 11:32, schreef Anders Johansson:
Have a look through your kmailrc to see if the setting is in there
While your on rc files, does one know how to change the default $HOME/Documents in the file selector to just $HOME. Which rc file is responsible for this setting or is it hard coded. -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
On Saturday 10 December 2005 11:45, Richard Bos wrote:
Op zaterdag 10 december 2005 11:32, schreef Anders Johansson:
Have a look through your kmailrc to see if the setting is in there
While your on rc files, does one know how to change the default $HOME/Documents in the file selector to just $HOME. Which rc file is responsible for this setting or is it hard coded.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but if you mean which directory comes up as default in the "save as" dialogs in KDE, that is determined by the "Documents" directory you have set in KDE's control centre, in System Administration->Paths
Op zaterdag 10 december 2005 11:57, schreef Anders Johansson:
I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but if you mean which directory comes up as default in the "save as" dialogs in KDE, that is determined by the "Documents" directory you have set in KDE's control centre, in System Administration->Paths
You knew exactly what I meant :)) Thanks a lot! -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
On Saturday 10 December 2005 01:08, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Harrumph!
It gets worse. SHIFT-DEL, though it's shown in the Shortcuts dialog as being associated with the "Delete" action, does not in fact do anything. Furthermore, the Delete action does not appear in the context menu of the mailbox list pane nor of the message preview pane nor in any of the menu-bar menus. ========
I think this must be your problem, because this function still works for my KMail. Having only move to trash in the selections is probably a better choice, especially for new users. It allows the user to have a second chance at removing the mail or viewing it again. For those of us that just want to get rid of them, then shift-del still works to completely remove the mail. Lee
On Saturday 10 December 2005 11:18, BandiPat wrote:
On Saturday 10 December 2005 01:08, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Harrumph!
It gets worse. SHIFT-DEL, though it's shown in the Shortcuts dialog as being associated with the "Delete" action, does not in fact do anything. Furthermore, the Delete action does not appear in the context menu of the mailbox list pane nor of the message preview pane nor in any of the menu-bar menus.
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I think this must be your problem, because this function still works for my KMail. Having only move to trash in the selections is probably a better choice, especially for new users. It allows the user to have a second chance at removing the mail or viewing it again. For those of us that just want to get rid of them, then shift-del still works to completely remove the mail.
Lee
Just another point, moving the email to the trash should be considered a good thing. When you close Kmail, it automagically purges the trash anyway. Alvin -- Please reply to the list.
Alvin, Lee & Anders, On Saturday 10 December 2005 07:27, Alvin wrote:
On Saturday 10 December 2005 11:18, BandiPat wrote:
On Saturday 10 December 2005 01:08, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Harrumph!
It gets worse. SHIFT-DEL, though it's shown in the Shortcuts dialog as being associated with the "Delete" action, does not in fact do anything. Furthermore, the Delete action does not appear in the context menu of the mailbox list pane nor of the message preview pane nor in any of the menu-bar menus.
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I think this must be your problem, because this function still works for my KMail. Having only move to trash in the selections is probably a better choice, especially for new users. It allows the user to have a second chance at removing the mail or viewing it again. For those of us that just want to get rid of them, then shift-del still works to completely remove the mail.
Upon restarting KMail this morning, SHIFT-DEL is again deleting message. I don't know what that's about.
Lee
Just another point, moving the email to the trash should be considered a good thing. When you close Kmail, it automagically purges the trash anyway.
First of all, that is email for babies. Second, automatic trash purging is an option, not a fixed behavior. I have been using SHIFT-DEL, mostly for spam, without incident for years. (I do leave the confirmation dialog enabled. Contrast this with Thunderbird, which simply has no such confirmation dialog and in which I have, once or twice, lost mail by accidentally hitting shift delete or hitting it when the wrong message was selected). On Saturday 10 December 2005 02:25, Anders Johansson wrote:
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I guess it's just a menu reorganisation. Context commands in preference to menu commands
Removing commands from menus that can be activated by the keyboard and
leaving them only in context menus is a loss of functionality, not a
mere reorganization of the menus, and is a bad thing. (And yes, I know
you can activate the context menu from the key between the right-side
Windows and CTRL keys, but this is hard for me to to hit reliably and
without looking at the keyboard, which is not true for
Alvin
Randall Schulz
On Saturday 10 December 2005 17:01, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Just another point, moving the email to the trash should be considered a good thing. When you close Kmail, it automagically purges the trash anyway.
First of all, that is email for babies. [...] Contrast this with Thunderbird, which simply has no such confirmation dialog and in which I have, once or twice, lost mail by accidentally hitting shift delete or hitting it when the wrong message was selected).
'nuff said. I guess babies have it pretty good
Anders, On Saturday 10 December 2005 08:59, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 10 December 2005 17:01, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Just another point, moving the email to the trash should be considered a good thing. When you close Kmail, it automagically purges the trash anyway.
First of all, that is email for babies.
[...]
Contrast this with Thunderbird, which simply has no such confirmation dialog and in which I have, once or twice, lost mail by accidentally hitting shift delete or hitting it when the wrong message was selected).
'nuff said. I guess babies have it pretty good
I suppose they do. And they should. But I prefer to live dangerously. You got a problem with that? Seriously, it is just silly to force email deletions to go through the trash first. Randall Schulz
On Saturday 10 December 2005 04:16, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Hi,
In KMail 1.8 (KDE 3.4.2) I could mark a whole topic thread as "read". Now the "Mark Thread" sub-menu of the Message menu has only "Watch Thread" and "Ignore Thread."
Yes, but if you right-click on a message in the thread, you will have the Mark Thread->Mark Thread As Read command
What gives? I've looked through the Preferences dialog, but I can't find any way to enable these commands. Are they simply gone? If not, how might I get them back? If so, why??
I guess it's just a menu reorganisation. Context commands in preference to menu commands
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