Hi, I am using KDE4 as a paralel-session with KDE3.. Disadvantage: had not closed thunderbird, which did not want to start. Used Kmail instead. Kmail works fine. After filtering about 1180 messages, i am able to write this from KDE4 desktop. The terminal is registering all, and working fine ;-) I have started SuperKaramba with it, and downloaded some gadgets: monitors and a clock. The 'Mac'bar=Tuxbar, does not work, helas. I updated the kde4 session, which prevents that everything gets unreadable. (i did not resize, afraid it would cause the windows to get unreadable) The session does not crash: Open: Terminal, Superkaramba, Kmail, Amarok, V3-monitor, and klipper. Nice experience. Have to install the debugpkgs, for to get some useable output in the backtraces... I am enjoying myself with this new and shiny toy ;-) Just starting up FF to surfaround a bit.. Greetings from KDE 4.0 M9. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org