[opensuse-kde] Dropping Qt4 WebKit
Hi everyone, it's about time now to drop Qt4 WebKit, before it has a chance to get into Leap 15.0. It received its last "major" update in 2013 and is now for over three years without security-related fixes or actually any kind of bugfixes. For now it'll only be removed from openSUSE:Leap:15.0 and :Factory and stay in the devel prj (KDE:Qt) as long as it builds fine. This is mostly due to some third-party applications that still need it, like the old skype, for example. A lot of kdelibs4-based applications are in the dependency tree, but with some patches we were able to sever the close tie between kdelibs4/kdebase4 and WebKit. There are some packages which will not build anymore after the drop, so if you really need them, you'll have to patch them to not use Qt4 WebKit. If this does not happen before KDE:Applications 17.12 lands in Factory, those packages will not be installable anymore. The list is: - FreeCAD (reported as boo#1070901) - bibletime - kchmviewer - knemo - mathgl - {perl,ruby,mono}-qt4 - {python,python3}-kde4 - rekonq - rkward - tomahawk - vacuum-im - vtk Cheers, Fabian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Fabian
- rkward
It seems they have a fix for using qt5 now https://cgit.kde.org/rkward.git/commit/?h=frameworks
- vtk I don't understand why this one should be affected On TW it requires pkgconfig(Qt5WebKitWidgets)
Also all related QT are QT5 perhaps vtk-qt has missed the rename to vtk-qt5 ? -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch Bareos Partner, openSUSE Member, fsfe fellowship GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, Am Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2017, 16:23:29 CET schrieb Bruno Friedmann:
Hi Fabian
- rkward
It seems they have a fix for using qt5 now https://cgit.kde.org/rkward.git/commit/?h=frameworks
Probably not released yet I guess.
- vtk I don't understand why this one should be affected On TW it requires pkgconfig(Qt5WebKitWidgets)
It also has BuildRequires: libQtWebKit-devel. Can probably just be removed then.
Also all related QT are QT5 perhaps vtk-qt has missed the rename to vtk-qt5 ?
Cheers, Fabian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, 03 Dec 2017 09:44:37 +0100 Fabian Vogt <fabian@ritter-vogt.de> wrote:
Hi everyone,
it's about time now to drop Qt4 WebKit, before it has a chance to get into Leap 15.0. It received its last "major" update in 2013 and is now for over three years without security-related fixes or actually any kind of bugfixes.
For now it'll only be removed from openSUSE:Leap:15.0 and :Factory and stay in the devel prj (KDE:Qt) as long as it builds fine. This is mostly due to some third-party applications that still need it, like the old skype, for example.
A lot of kdelibs4-based applications are in the dependency tree, but with some patches we were able to sever the close tie between kdelibs4/kdebase4 and WebKit. There are some packages which will not build anymore after the drop, so if you really need them, you'll have to patch them to not use Qt4 WebKit. If this does not happen before KDE:Applications 17.12 lands in Factory, those packages will not be installable anymore.
The list is:
- FreeCAD (reported as boo#1070901) - bibletime - kchmviewer - knemo - mathgl - {perl,ruby,mono}-qt4 - {python,python3}-kde4 - rekonq - rkward - tomahawk - vacuum-im - vtk
Cheers, Fabian
Scribus 1.4.6 also has a dependency on this. It is used for the help browser. We have 1.4.7 in the works and I will submit this as a maintenance release into Leap. If wanted, this can go into SLE 12 SP4 or maintenance for SP3 My plan: Move to Scribus 1.5.x branch before Leap 15 is out. !.5.x is Qt5 and getting close to becoming 1.6 (stable) The 1.5.x branch is pretty stable and we're not planning on adding a lot of new functionality. Thoughts ? Cheers, Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2017, 17:31:23 schrieb Peter Linnell:
Scribus 1.4.6 also has a dependency on this. It is used for the help browser.
Apparently not. The binary package has no dependency on libQtWebKit4, QtWebKit is not mentioned in the cmake output nor in the CMakeLists.txt, and it builds fine without. I actually even tried to uninstall libQtWebKit4 on my system now, and I can still open the handbook in scribus. AFAICT, that build requirement is just pointless, and can safely be removed. Therefore I filed https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/561710 That is Help->Scribus Manual... at least. Or did you mean something else? (the other options in the help menu just seem to open the default web browser anyway, even before my change) Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Some notes below... Am Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2017, 09:44:37 schrieb Fabian Vogt:
- kchmviewer
This supports building with Qt5 since version 5.2 (KDE:Extra has 5.2.1, the latest version is 5.7 though). No idea if it will actually build with he latest versions, but I'll give it a try... Probably not so important IMHO, okular can display .chm files as well.
- knemo
Hm. I don't see any dependency on QtWebKit (neither at runtime nor buildtime), and I have no idea what it would use/need it for... If necessary, we could package the git frameworks branch though. There hasn't been any work since a while, but it seems to work (I never used any more advanced features though, I only like to have the icon in the systray that shows network traffic).
- {perl,ruby,mono}-qt4 - {python,python3}-kde4
- rekonq
A WebKit based browser, so no point trying to patch it to work without it... Probably time to drop it. Although there is a WIP KF5/Qt5 port, it seems dead (last commit 3 years ago). Am Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2017, 16:23:29 schrieb Bruno Friedmann:
- rkward
It seems they have a fix for using qt5 now https://cgit.kde.org/rkward.git/commit/?h=frameworks
No, that's a fix *for* the Qt5/KF5 port, much more is needed to build it with Qt5 in the first place... ;-) We could package the frameworks branch maybe. I build it since a while and it starts at least. I don't know how well it works though, rkward is not something I ever used really.
- vtk
The libQtWebKit-devel BuildRequires seems to be a mistake, it is built with Qt5 in Factory since a while: %if 0%{?suse_version} > 1320 BuildRequires: python3-qt5-devel BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5OpenGL) BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5OpenGLExtensions) BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5Sql) BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5WebKitWidgets) BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5Widgets) %else BuildRequires: libqt4-devel BuildRequires: python3-qt4-devel %endif Could be removed, or at least moved into the %else branch I suppose. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2017, 18:32:22 schrieb Wolfgang Bauer:
Some notes below...
Am Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2017, 09:44:37 schrieb Fabian Vogt:
- kchmviewer
This supports building with Qt5 since version 5.2 (KDE:Extra has 5.2.1, the latest version is 5.7 though).
Sorry, typos... The version numbers should be 7.2(.1) and 7.7, respectively... ;-) Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2017, 18:32:22 CET schrieb Wolfgang Bauer:
Some notes below...
Am Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2017, 09:44:37 schrieb Fabian Vogt:
- kchmviewer
This supports building with Qt5 since version 5.2 (KDE:Extra has 5.2.1, the latest version is 5.7 though).
No idea if it will actually build with he latest versions, but I'll give it a try...
Probably not so important IMHO, okular can display .chm files as well.
- knemo
Hm. I don't see any dependency on QtWebKit (neither at runtime nor buildtime), and I have no idea what it would use/need it for...
If necessary, we could package the git frameworks branch though. There hasn't been any work since a while, but it seems to work (I never used any more advanced features though, I only like to have the icon in the systray that shows network traffic).
It needs libksignalplotter, which had to be patched out from kdebase4-workspace as one dependency of that lib depends on webkit (ksysguard's processui IIRC). It might be possible to patch that a bit more fine-grained, but probably not worth the work.
- {perl,ruby,mono}-qt4 - {python,python3}-kde4
- rekonq
A WebKit based browser, so no point trying to patch it to work without it... Probably time to drop it. Although there is a WIP KF5/Qt5 port, it seems dead (last commit 3 years ago).
Yes, I think so too. I filed a dr.
Am Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2017, 16:23:29 schrieb Bruno Friedmann:
- rkward
It seems they have a fix for using qt5 now https://cgit.kde.org/rkward.git/commit/?h=frameworks
No, that's a fix *for* the Qt5/KF5 port, much more is needed to build it with Qt5 in the first place... ;-)
We could package the frameworks branch maybe. I build it since a while and it starts at least. I don't know how well it works though, rkward is not something I ever used really.
If you have already packaged it, you can submit it to the devel project directly. An untested application is way better than no application :-)
- vtk
The libQtWebKit-devel BuildRequires seems to be a mistake, it is built with Qt5 in Factory since a while:
%if 0%{?suse_version} > 1320 BuildRequires: python3-qt5-devel BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5OpenGL) BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5OpenGLExtensions) BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5Sql) BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5WebKitWidgets) BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5Widgets) %else BuildRequires: libqt4-devel BuildRequires: python3-qt4-devel %endif
Could be removed, or at least moved into the %else branch I suppose.
AFAICT already being worked on by Bruno Friedmann. Cheers, Fabian
Kind Regards, Wolfgang
-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2017, 18:49:39 schrieb Fabian Vogt:
It needs libksignalplotter, which had to be patched out from kdebase4-workspace as one dependency of that lib depends on webkit (ksysguard's processui IIRC). It might be possible to patch that a bit more fine-grained, but probably not worth the work.
Ah ok. The KF5 port seems to use libksysguard5 (which contains a Qt5/KF5 libksignalplotter) instead...
If you have already packaged it, you can submit it to the devel project directly. An untested application is way better than no application :-)
Ok, I should be able to do that in the next days. Need to clean up the spec file a bit first though... (and add a proper tarball instead of using a _service, AFAIK the latter is not allowed in Factory) Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
- vtk
The libQtWebKit-devel BuildRequires seems to be a mistake, it is built with Qt5 in Factory since a while:
%if 0%{?suse_version} > 1320 BuildRequires: python3-qt5-devel BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5OpenGL) BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5OpenGLExtensions) BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5Sql) BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5WebKitWidgets) BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5Widgets) %else BuildRequires: libqt4-devel BuildRequires: python3-qt4-devel %endif
Could be removed, or at least moved into the %else branch I suppose.
Kind Regards, Wolfgang
I'm doing the fix actually ... by moving inside the else. So it should still also build for SLE. -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch Bareos Partner, openSUSE Member, fsfe fellowship GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On lundi, 4 décembre 2017 18.53:33 h CET Bruno Friedmann wrote:
- vtk
The libQtWebKit-devel BuildRequires seems to be a mistake, it is built with Qt5 in Factory since a while:
%if 0%{?suse_version} > 1320 BuildRequires: python3-qt5-devel BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5OpenGL) BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5OpenGLExtensions) BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5Sql) BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5WebKitWidgets) BuildRequires: pkgconfig(Qt5Widgets) %else BuildRequires: libqt4-devel BuildRequires: python3-qt4-devel %endif
Could be removed, or at least moved into the %else branch I suppose.
Kind Regards, Wolfgang
I'm doing the fix actually ... by moving inside the else. So it should still also build for SLE.
sr#548228 against devel project is opened now waiting to be taken by maintainer then go thru factory -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch Bareos Partner, openSUSE Member, fsfe fellowship GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Dne pondělí 4. prosince 2017 18:32:22 CET, Wolfgang Bauer napsal(a):
Am Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2017, 09:44:37 schrieb Fabian Vogt:
- rekonq
A WebKit based browser, so no point trying to patch it to work without it... Probably time to drop it. Although there is a WIP KF5/Qt5 port, it seems dead (last commit 3 years ago).
It's death, AFAIK.
Am Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2017, 16:23:29 schrieb Bruno Friedmann:
- rkward
It seems they have a fix for using qt5 now https://cgit.kde.org/rkward.git/commit/?h=frameworks
No, that's a fix *for* the Qt5/KF5 port, much more is needed to build it with Qt5 in the first place... ;-)
We could package the frameworks branch maybe. I build it since a while and it starts at least. I don't know how well it works though, rkward is not something I ever used really.
This is crucial application for me (RStudio is unavailable for TW as it relies on GStreamer 0.10). So I'd be happy if I could somehow help it to be available for openSUSE. But I have no idea how to package and so. I can at least definitely test it. I hope it'll be in any case still available at least for Leap 42. -- Vojtěch Zeisek Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux https://www.opensuse.org/ https://trapa.cz/
Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017, 08:59:10 schrieb Vojtěch Zeisek:
This is crucial application for me (RStudio is unavailable for TW as it relies on GStreamer 0.10). So I'd be happy if I could somehow help it to be available for openSUSE. But I have no idea how to package and so. I can at least definitely test it.
As I wrote, I did already package the "unstable" frameworks branch (since about 2 years ago to be precise ;-) ). I'm going to submit it, but I need to do some cleanups first. (as it's a devel snapshot, the translations are missing, I'll probably add the ones from the KDE4 version or from SVN). If you want to test it, see here: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:wolfi323:branches:devel:languag... Feedback would be welcome of course. Btw, as it's a devel snapshot, the translations are missing. But I'm probably going to add the ones from the KDE4 version or from SVN.
I hope it'll be in any case still available at least for Leap 42.
It is in the main/standard repos, so yes, it (the stable KDE4 version 0.6.5, and Qt4 WebKit) will always be available for Leap 42. But it would need to be dropped from Tumbleweed and Leap 15. No idea when the KF5 port will be released, the only "announcement" in that direction I found is this: https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/rkward-devel/2017-May/004763.html So even though this was half a year ago, it probably will still take some time. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Dne úterý 5. prosince 2017 10:09:12 CET, Wolfgang Bauer napsal(a):
Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017, 08:59:10 schrieb Vojtěch Zeisek:
This is crucial application for me (RStudio is unavailable for TW as it relies on GStreamer 0.10). So I'd be happy if I could somehow help it to be available for openSUSE. But I have no idea how to package and so. I can at least definitely test it.
As I wrote, I did already package the "unstable" frameworks branch (since about 2 years ago to be precise ;-) ). I'm going to submit it, but I need to do some cleanups first. (as it's a devel snapshot, the translations are missing, I'll probably add the ones from the KDE4 version or from SVN).
If you want to test it, see here: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:wolfi323:branches:devel:languag es:R:released/rkward
Hm, OBS seems to be broken for a moment: Files could not be expanded: service error: Command failed(128): 'fatal: Unable to look up anongit.kde.org (port 9418) (Temporary failure in name resolution)' less info service tar_scm failed: Use of uninitialized value $val in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/lib/ obs/server/bs_admin line 1144. /srv/obs/service/31202 /srv/obs/service/31202/src /srv/obs/service/31202/src/_link /srv/obs/service/31202/src/_service /srv/obs/service/31202/src/rkward-0.6.5.tar.gz /srv/obs/service/31202/src/rkward.changes /srv/obs/service/31202/src/rkward.spec /srv/obs/service/31202/src/_serviceproject /srv/obs/service/31202/src/.old /srv/obs/service/31202/src/.old/_service:recompress:tar_scm:rkward-0.6.9git. 20171022T093034~f74df5d6.tar.gz /srv/obs/service/31202/src/.old/_service:set_version:rkward.spec /srv/obs/service/31202/out /srv/obs/service/31202/var /srv/obs/service/31202/var/cache /srv/obs/service/31202/var/cache/obs /srv/obs/service/31202/var/cache/obs/7i4Lq6aylPJE /srv/obs/service/31202/var/cache/obs/7i4Lq6aylPJE/scripts /srv/obs/service/31202/var/cache/obs/7i4Lq6aylPJE/scripts/inner.sh /srv/obs/service/31202/var/cache/obs/7i4Lq6aylPJE/scripts/inner.sh.command /srv/obs/service/31202/home Running /usr/lib/obs/service//tar_scm --url git://anongit.kde.org/rkward.git --scm git --versionformat 0.6.9git.%ci~%h --revision frameworks --outdir /var/ cache/obs/7i4Lq6aylPJE/out + echo Running /usr/lib/obs/service//tar_scm --url git://anongit.kde.org/ rkward.git --scm git --versionformat 0.6.9git.%ci~%h --revision frameworks -- outdir /var/cache/obs/7i4Lq6aylPJE/out + export CACHEDIRECTORY=/var/cache/obs/7i4Lq6aylPJE/scm-cache + CACHEDIRECTORY=/var/cache/obs/7i4Lq6aylPJE/scm-cache + export HOME=/var/cache/obs/7i4Lq6aylPJE/home + HOME=/var/cache/obs/7i4Lq6aylPJE/home + /usr/lib/obs/service//tar_scm --url git://anongit.kde.org/rkward.git --scm git --versionformat 0.6.9git.%ci~%h --revision frameworks --outdir /var/cache/ obs/7i4Lq6aylPJE/out Detected cached repository... ERROR(128): 'fatal: Unable to look up anongit.kde.org (port 9418) (Temporary failure in name resolution) ' Command failed(128): 'fatal: Unable to look up anongit.kde.org (port 9418) (Temporary failure in name resolution) I'll try later... -- Vojtěch Zeisek https://trapa.cz/
In data martedì 5 dicembre 2017 10:28:20 CET, Vojt?ch Zeisek ha scritto:
Hm, OBS seems to be broken for a moment: Files could not be expanded: service error: Command failed(128): 'fatal: Unable to look up anongit.kde.org (port 9418) (Temporary failure in name
This occasionally happens with OBS and source services. It'll be sufficient to rerun them to usually fix the issue. -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team KDE Science supporter GPG key ID: A29D259B
Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017, 10:34:31 schrieb Luca Beltrame:
In data martedì 5 dicembre 2017 10:28:20 CET, Vojt?ch Zeisek ha scritto:
Hm, OBS seems to be broken for a moment: Files could not be expanded: service error: Command failed(128): 'fatal: Unable to look up anongit.kde.org (port 9418) (Temporary failure in name
This occasionally happens with OBS and source services. It'll be sufficient to rerun them to usually fix the issue.
Yes, and I triggered a re-run meanwhile. Although, you should be able to *download* the already built packages (or add the repo) despite that error (which only affects the build). Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Oh, I see. I pasted the wrong Url by mistake. That's the direct link to the package download page: https://software.opensuse.org//download.html?project=home%3Awolfi323%3Abranches%3Adevel%3Alanguages%3AR%3Areleased&package=rkward (that's what you get when you click on "Download package" on the previous page's upper right corner) Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Dne úterý 5. prosince 2017 11:01:17 CET, Wolfgang Bauer napsal(a):
Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017, 10:34:31 schrieb Luca Beltrame:
In data martedì 5 dicembre 2017 10:28:20 CET, Vojt?ch Zeisek ha scritto:
Hm, OBS seems to be broken for a moment: Files could not be expanded: service error: Command failed(128): 'fatal: Unable to look up anongit.kde.org (port 9418) (Temporary failure in name
This occasionally happens with OBS and source services. It'll be sufficient to rerun them to usually fix the issue.
Yes, and I triggered a re-run meanwhile.
Although, you should be able to *download* the already built packages (or add the repo) despite that error (which only affects the build).
So I installed Rkward 0.6.9z+0.7.0+devel1 from Your repository. It does work as expected, it looks nearly same as the KDE4 version. It loaded Rkward modules from KDE4, some of them work. ;-) Well, the modules are not crucial. Interestingly, Git module crashes whole application (not only the module as in the previous version). Not a big issue as this module never worked really well. ;-) It's missing some default settings (like SUSE typical path to R packages, i.e. something like ~/R/x86_64-suse-linux-gnu-library/3.4/), it is missing some default CRAN mirror (source of R packages). Not a big issue, thought. It doesn't import history, settings and so on from previous version (as it seems to be functionally nearly identical, it could be done, might be I'll try to do it later manually). Overall, I'm very happy with it! Thank You, Wolfgang! As RStudio is not available for TW and Leap 15, Rkward is the only good GUI/ IDE for R available for openSUSE. -- Vojtěch Zeisek https://trapa.cz/
As RStudio is not available for TW and Leap 15, Rkward is the only good GUI/ IDE for R available for openSUSE.
I have on my todo (the one called : one day if free time) to check and build it directly for openSUSE on obs ... As I don't have yet any urgent R project to finish it was not on my priority. Would be cool to have for christmas :-) -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch Bareos Partner, openSUSE Member, fsfe fellowship GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Dne úterý 5. prosince 2017 16:42:38 CET jste napsal(a):
Dne úterý 5. prosince 2017 11:01:17 CET, Wolfgang Bauer napsal(a):
Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017, 10:34:31 schrieb Luca Beltrame:
In data martedì 5 dicembre 2017 10:28:20 CET, Vojt?ch Zeisek ha scritto:
Hm, OBS seems to be broken for a moment: Files could not be expanded: service error: Command failed(128): 'fatal: Unable to look up anongit.kde.org (port 9418) (Temporary failure in name
This occasionally happens with OBS and source services. It'll be sufficient to rerun them to usually fix the issue.
Yes, and I triggered a re-run meanwhile.
Although, you should be able to *download* the already built packages (or add the repo) despite that error (which only affects the build).
So I installed Rkward 0.6.9z+0.7.0+devel1 from Your repository. It does work as expected, it looks nearly same as the KDE4 version. It loaded Rkward modules from KDE4, some of them work. ;-) Well, the modules are not crucial. Interestingly, Git module crashes whole application (not only the module as in the previous version). Not a big issue as this module never worked really well. ;-) It's missing some default settings (like SUSE typical path to R packages, i.e. something like ~/R/x86_64-suse-linux-gnu-library/3.4/), it is missing some default CRAN mirror (source of R packages). Not a big issue, thought. It doesn't import history, settings and so on from previous version (as it seems to be functionally nearly identical, it could be done, might be I'll try to do it later manually). Overall, I'm very happy with it! Thank You, Wolfgang! As RStudio is not available for TW and Leap 15, Rkward is the only good GUI/ IDE for R available for openSUSE.
On another TW machine I see today $ LC_ALL=C sudo zypper dup [...] Problem: rkward-0.6.5-3.7.x86_64 requires libkdewebkit.so.5()(64bit), but this requirement cannot be provided deleted providers: libkde4-4.14.38-1.1.x86_64 Solution 1: deinstallation of rkward-0.6.5-3.7.x86_64 Solution 2: keep obsolete libkde4-4.14.38-1.1.x86_64 Solution 3: break rkward-0.6.5-3.7.x86_64 by ignoring some of its dependencies So... If it means we reached the breakpoint, might I ask for replacement of RKWard 0.6.5 by the KF5/Qt5 Git version? -- Vojtěch Zeisek Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux https://www.opensuse.org/ https://trapa.cz/
Am Freitag, 8. Dezember 2017, 16:44:17 schrieb Vojtěch Zeisek:
On another TW machine I see today $ LC_ALL=C sudo zypper dup [...] Problem: rkward-0.6.5-3.7.x86_64 requires libkdewebkit.so.5()(64bit), but this requirement cannot be provided deleted providers: libkde4-4.14.38-1.1.x86_64 Solution 1: deinstallation of rkward-0.6.5-3.7.x86_64 Solution 2: keep obsolete libkde4-4.14.38-1.1.x86_64 Solution 3: break rkward-0.6.5-3.7.x86_64 by ignoring some of its dependencies
Well, you can keep the obsolete libkde4 for now, QtWebKit4 has not been deleted yet.
So... If it means we reached the breakpoint, might I ask for replacement of RKWard 0.6.5 by the KF5/Qt5 Git version?
https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/555321 It's up to the maintainers of devel:languages:R now when/if this gets accepted and forwarded to Factory... (rkward is not maintained by the openSUSE KDE team) Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Just out of curiosity ... Will any of this lead to Wayland for KDE? Perhaps by judicious use of LD_LIBRARY_PATH ? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Freitag, 8. Dezember 2017, 14:52:37 schrieb Anton Aylward:
Will any of this lead to Wayland for KDE?
??? This has absolutely nothing to do with Wayland. It is about dropping an outdated and unmaintained (since years!) web browser engine (mainly because of security concerns), and what to do with the applications/packages that still use it. Btw, Plasma5 can be run on Wayland since quite some time (though there were problems and limitations, some may still be there), on Tumbleweed at least (not on Leap 42). Just install the package plasma5-session-wayland and you should have an entry on your login screen (if that supports Wayland, kdm e.g. does not and never will). Also, it is possible to run X11 applications in Wayland too. So your question doesn't really make sense to me... ;-) Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Dne pátek 8. prosince 2017 20:29:39 CET, Wolfgang Bauer napsal(a):
Am Freitag, 8. Dezember 2017, 16:44:17 schrieb Vojtěch Zeisek:
So... If it means we reached the breakpoint, might I ask for replacement of RKWard 0.6.5 by the KF5/Qt5 Git version?
https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/555321
It's up to the maintainers of devel:languages:R now when/if this gets accepted and forwarded to Factory... (rkward is not maintained by the openSUSE KDE team)
Thank You very much! -- Vojtěch Zeisek Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux https://www.opensuse.org/ https://trapa.cz/
In data venerdì 8 dicembre 2017 20:29:39 CET, Wolfgang Bauer ha scritto:
It's up to the maintainers of devel:languages:R now when/if this gets accepted and forwarded to Factory... (rkward is not maintained by the
Judging on my experience (I contributed a number of updated R packages there) I don't see that happening any time soon... (I'd be happy if proven wrong, though) -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team GPG key ID: A29D259B
Dne pátek 8. prosince 2017 23:48:42 CET, Luca Beltrame napsal(a):
In data venerdì 8 dicembre 2017 20:29:39 CET, Wolfgang Bauer ha scritto:
It's up to the maintainers of devel:languages:R now when/if this gets accepted and forwarded to Factory... (rkward is not maintained by the
Judging on my experience (I contributed a number of updated R packages there) I don't see that happening any time soon... (I'd be happy if proven wrong, though)
Sad :-( Why do You think so? Anyway, it is also directly in Factory, but it seems to have no maintainer: https://build.opensuse.org/package/users/openSUSE:Factory/rkward Why not to submit the update directly to Factory, then? -- Vojtěch Zeisek https://trapa.cz/
Am Samstag, 9. Dezember 2017, 09:32:26 schrieb Vojtěch Zeisek:
Anyway, it is also directly in Factory, but it seems to have no maintainer: https://build.opensuse.org/package/users/openSUSE:Factory/rkward Why not to submit the update directly to Factory, then?
That's not how openSUSE development works, you cannot submit changes to Factory directly. Each package in Factory is maintained in some devel project (devel:languages:R:released in this case), submits to Factory are only accepted from there. IOW, changes have to be done in the devel project before they can be submitted to Factory (and Tumbleweed in the end). We could put the package into KDE:Extra or similar and request a devel project change, but that takes time too and also needs to be accepted by the current maintainers I think. I don't really share the concerns though. I did contribute to the rkward package in the past (mainly updated it to 0.6.5) and had no "problem" with the maintainers. Of course the situation is a bit different now, after all this is just a git snapshot, no proper release, this might be a reason to reject it. But the current package is "broken" now anyway, so let's see. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Dne sobota 9. prosince 2017 10:40:21 CET, Wolfgang Bauer napsal(a):
Am Samstag, 9. Dezember 2017, 09:32:26 schrieb Vojtěch Zeisek:
Anyway, it is also directly in Factory, but it seems to have no maintainer: https://build.opensuse.org/package/users/openSUSE:Factory/rkward Why not to submit the update directly to Factory, then?
That's not how openSUSE development works, you cannot submit changes to Factory directly. Each package in Factory is maintained in some devel project (devel:languages:R:released in this case), submits to Factory are only accepted from there. IOW, changes have to be done in the devel project before they can be submitted to Factory (and Tumbleweed in the end).
We could put the package into KDE:Extra or similar and request a devel project change, but that takes time too and also needs to be accepted by the current maintainers I think.
I don't really share the concerns though. I did contribute to the rkward package in the past (mainly updated it to 0.6.5) and had no "problem" with the maintainers. Of course the situation is a bit different now, after all this is just a git snapshot, no proper release, this might be a reason to reject it. But the current package is "broken" now anyway, so let's see.
OK, thank You for clarification. Today 'zypper dup' installed rkward 0.6.9git. 20171022T093034~f74df5d6-19.1 from dev_lang_R_released and it works well. Thank You all! -- Vojtěch Zeisek Komunita openSUSE GNU/Linuxu Community of the openSUSE GNU/Linux https://www.opensuse.org/ https://trapa.cz/
Am Montag, 11. Dezember 2017, 09:17:09 schrieb Vojtěch Zeisek:
Today 'zypper dup' installed rkward 0.6.9git. 20171022T093034~f74df5d6-19.1 from dev_lang_R_released and it works well. Thank You all!
Yes, it got accepted by the maintainers yesterday, and is on the way to Tumbleweed now too... ;-) https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/555765 Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
PS:
- bibletime
This would just need to be updated to the latest version. 2.11 (released a year ago) uses Qt5 and QtWebEngine, a 2.11.1 bugfix release has been made 2 months ago (including a crash fix for Qt 5.9). https://github.com/bibletime/bibletime/releases And apparently somebody is already working on that update: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:cornelisbb:branches:Education/b... Btw, kchmviewer 7.2.1 builds fine with Qt5, one needs to use qmake instead of cmake though and install the files manually. I'll submit that one too in the next days. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2017, 09:44:37 CET schrieb Fabian Vogt:
it's about time now to drop Qt4 WebKit, before it has a chance to get into Leap 15.0.
[...]
There are some packages which will not build anymore after the drop, so if you really need them, you'll have to patch them to not use Qt4 WebKit. If this does not happen before KDE:Applications 17.12 lands in Factory, those packages will not be installable anymore.
The list is:
- FreeCAD (reported as boo#1070901)
Does that mean, FreeCAD will not be available anymore? That would be a pity, because IMHO FreeCAD is the best open source application in the field of 3D CAD. Unfortunately patching it is beyond my skills, but I REALLY would like to use it further on OpenSUSE. Best regards Thomas Hejze -- Nordmanngasse 27/1/39, A-1210 Wien Telefon/Fax: +43 1 2559839 Mobil: +43 677 61982018 E-Mail: office@hejze.at Web: www.hejze.at -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, Am Donnerstag, 14. Dezember 2017, 17:27:41 CET schrieb Thomas Hejze:
Am Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2017, 09:44:37 CET schrieb Fabian Vogt:
it's about time now to drop Qt4 WebKit, before it has a chance to get into Leap 15.0.
[...]
There are some packages which will not build anymore after the drop, so if you really need them, you'll have to patch them to not use Qt4 WebKit. If this does not happen before KDE:Applications 17.12 lands in Factory, those packages will not be installable anymore.
The list is:
- FreeCAD (reported as boo#1070901)
Does that mean, FreeCAD will not be available anymore? That would be a pity, because IMHO FreeCAD is the best open source application in the field of 3D CAD. Unfortunately patching it is beyond my skills, but I REALLY would like to use it further on OpenSUSE.
There's a bug report with some more information: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1070901 Cheers, Fabian
Best regards Thomas Hejze
-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Donnerstag, 14. Dezember 2017, 17:27:41 CET wrote Thomas Hejze:
Am Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2017, 09:44:37 CET schrieb Fabian Vogt:
it's about time now to drop Qt4 WebKit, before it has a chance to get into Leap 15.0.
[...]
There are some packages which will not build anymore after the drop, so if you really need them, you'll have to patch them to not use Qt4 WebKit. If this does not happen before KDE:Applications 17.12 lands in Factory, those packages will not be installable anymore.
The list is:
- FreeCAD (reported as boo#1070901)
Does that mean, FreeCAD will not be available anymore? That would be a pity, because IMHO FreeCAD is the best open source application in the field of 3D CAD. Unfortunately patching it is beyond my skills, but I REALLY would like to use it further on OpenSUSE.
Well, I have an unstable snapshot working with Qt5, but I am not really convinced to submit it to factory yet. It needs unstable snapshots of other stacks and can not even use current versions there. But the bigger problem is a memory corruption somehwere in python/pyside2/glibc. This requires a quite brutal workaround which basically disables all UTF8. This really needs to be debugged before. (I have a valgrind enabled build of python somewhere in OBS, otherwise you will get mad). And don't think it is the graphic driver as I thought first since it is crashing there. It happens with all drivers ;) -- Adrian Schroeter email: adrian@suse.de SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 14. Dezember 2017, 17:32:35 schrieb Adrian Schröter:
Well, I have an unstable snapshot working with Qt5, but I am not really convinced to submit it to factory yet.
I see only two options then (other than keeping libQtWebKit4 in the distribution): - provide libQtWebKit4 in the same repo as FreeCAD Won't help with standard Tumbleweed or Leap 15 though, i.e. people wanting to install/use it would need to add that repo. - build it without libQtWebKit4, i.e. remove the "BuildRequires: pkgconfig(QtWebKit)" Judging from the CMakeLists.txt that seems to be possible. It would disable "browser integration" though, I have no idea what that means exactly and if that is acceptable or not. (never used or installed FreeCAD myself) I just gave it a try and it fails during compilation though, because a QtWebKit include file is not found. :-( /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/FreeCAD-0.16.6712/src/Gui/DownloadManager.cpp:36:24: fatal error: QWebSettings: No such file or directory [ 569s] #include <QWebSettings> Probably worth a bug report upstream. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 14. Dezember 2017, 18:31:04 schrieb Wolfgang Bauer:
- build it without libQtWebKit4, i.e. remove the "BuildRequires: pkgconfig(QtWebKit)" Judging from the CMakeLists.txt that seems to be possible. It would disable "browser integration" though, I have no idea what that means exactly and if that is acceptable or not. (never used or installed FreeCAD myself)
I just gave it a try and it fails during compilation though, because a QtWebKit include file is not found. :-( /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/FreeCAD-0.16.6712/src/Gui/DownloadManager.cpp:36 :24: fatal error: QWebSettings: No such file or directory [ 569s] #include <QWebSettings>
This patch from Arch might help: https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/remove-qtwebkit.... The build for Tumbleweed failed early though, because of the latest boost changes. (would need adjustments to the build requirements I suppose) And for Leap it fails now with: /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/FreeCAD-0.16.6712/src/Mod/Web/Gui/BrowserView.h:32:20: fatal error: QWebView: No such file or directory #include <QWebView> Arch apparently has this to fix that problem: https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/remove-webgui.pa... No idea yet if that's "portable" to openSUSE. But maybe it helps? Otherwise, I'll try to play more with it in the next days... Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 14. Dezember 2017, 20:57:12 schrieb Wolfgang Bauer:
Arch apparently has this to fix that problem: https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/remove-webgui.pa tch?h=packages/freecad No idea yet if that's "portable" to openSUSE.
But maybe it helps?
This alone didn't help either, but adding two options to cmake made it build (without QtWebKit4)... + -DBUILD_START=OFF \ + -DBUILD_WEB=OFF \ (also inspired by Arch ;-) ) As I wrote, I am unsure of the implications of this, so maybe somebody who actually uses it should report back. So far I can only provide packages for Leap though: https://software.opensuse.org//download.html?project=home%3Awolfi323%3Abranches%3Ascience&package=FreeCAD They may work fine on Tumbleweed, but I don't know. Regarding the TW build, it still fails early on: Could not find the following Boost libraries: boost_python I'll try to fix that too, but it will take some more time. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 14. Dezember 2017, 22:58:25 schrieb Wolfgang Bauer:
Regarding the TW build, it still fails early on: Could not find the following Boost libraries: boost_python
Fixed as as well now. Packages for Tumbleweed are available at the same place: https://software.opensuse.org//download.html?project=home%3Awolfi323%3Abranches%3Ascience&package=FreeCAD Please test. If there are no objections, I will submit it then... Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On jeudi 14 décembre 2017 22:58:25 CET Wolfgang Bauer wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 14. Dezember 2017, 20:57:12 schrieb Wolfgang Bauer:
Arch apparently has this to fix that problem: https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/remove-webgui. pa tch?h=packages/freecad No idea yet if that's "portable" to openSUSE.
But maybe it helps?
This alone didn't help either, but adding two options to cmake made it build (without QtWebKit4)... + -DBUILD_START=OFF \ + -DBUILD_WEB=OFF \ (also inspired by Arch ;-) )
As I wrote, I am unsure of the implications of this, so maybe somebody who actually uses it should report back.
The web plugin opens the freecadweb.org website in the creation window. Not critical. The startpage plugin is what the user sees the first time he launches FreeCAD. It contains links to useful resources (examples, doc...). These resources are also available on the website. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On vendredi 15 décembre 2017 09:46:59 CET Christophe Giboudeaux wrote:
On jeudi 14 décembre 2017 22:58:25 CET Wolfgang Bauer wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 14. Dezember 2017, 20:57:12 schrieb Wolfgang Bauer:
Arch apparently has this to fix that problem: https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/remove-webgu i. pa tch?h=packages/freecad No idea yet if that's "portable" to openSUSE.
But maybe it helps?
This alone didn't help either, but adding two options to cmake made it build (without QtWebKit4)... + -DBUILD_START=OFF \ + -DBUILD_WEB=OFF \ (also inspired by Arch ;-) )
As I wrote, I am unsure of the implications of this, so maybe somebody who actually uses it should report back.
The web plugin opens the freecadweb.org website in the creation window. Not critical. The startpage plugin is what the user sees the first time he launches FreeCAD. It contains links to useful resources (examples, doc...). These resources are also available on the website.
I've just tested with and without an already existing ~/.FreeCAD folder, there's a minor issue in both case : although removed, FreeCAD still tries to load the startpage plugin by default (the icon is also still there in the workbench list as shown here https://i.imgur.com/TFSOL3m.png). The web plugin was correctly removed. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Freitag, 15. Dezember 2017, 09:56:40 schrieb Christophe Giboudeaux:
I've just tested with and without an already existing ~/.FreeCAD folder, there's a minor issue in both case : although removed, FreeCAD still tries to load the startpage plugin by default (the icon is also still there in the workbench list as shown here https://i.imgur.com/TFSOL3m.png).
Not really, I think. That seems to be the "None" plugin, that apparently just removes all toolbars from the current view (that's my impression at least). And it seems to be the default on start as well. That doesn't have anything to do with the startpage plugin though AFAICT (although on start it would show the help normally, now it shows nothing). TBH, I'm not really motivated to try to change that further though. As there hasn't been any other reply, and a delete request (for Factory) has been filed today, I think I'm just going to submit it as-is and leave the final decision to the maintainer(s). Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
participants (10)
-
Adrian Schröter -
Anton Aylward -
Bruno Friedmann -
Christophe Giboudeaux -
Fabian Vogt -
Luca Beltrame -
Peter Linnell -
Thomas Hejze -
Vojtěch Zeisek -
Wolfgang Bauer