*Newbie* Dictionary on the panel?
Hi all, At one point during my several reformats and reinstalls, I was able to get a dictionary placed on my panel. After updating to KDE 3.3, I can no longer find the dictionary by right clicking the panel. Does anyone know how I should be able to get a dictionary on my panel again? In my old age of 70 I guess I am getting soooo senile that ....and I forgot what I was going to say. Thank you, Andy
On Saturday 26 March 2005 05:22 pm, Andy Yankovich wrote:
Hi all,
At one point during my several reformats and reinstalls, I was able to get a dictionary placed on my panel. After updating to KDE 3.3, I can no longer find the dictionary by right clicking the panel.
Does anyone know how I should be able to get a dictionary on my panel again? In my old age of 70 I guess I am getting soooo senile that ....and I forgot what I was going to say.
Thank you, Andy ==========
If you right click the panel, go to Add applet then Dictionary. Now I'm using 3.4 KDE, but there should be little difference. Not senile, just forgetful, but then we are all that way of those things we don't do daily. ;o) Lee -- --- KMail v1.8 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 "He's not my brother, he's just heavy." ........Bucky Katt
On Saturday 26 March 2005 17:35, BandiPat wrote:
If you right click the panel, go to Add applet then Dictionary. Now I'm using 3.4 KDE, but there should be little difference. Lee
Please read all. Dictionary is simply NOT there. If it comes with 9.3 then I'll just wait instead of putting you thru all that trouble. Heck, I forget to look in the dictionary anyway nowadays. BTW, good friend, is Novell Desktop much different than Suse Pro? What are the major advantages in upgrading to Suse Pro 9.3 rather than Novell Desktop? If I go to Novell do I lose the good people on this list? For a dummy like me is it better for me to buy the 9.3 package that to try to upgrade thru Yast or whatever? I really would like a good wordprocessor in the near future. I do some "retirement" type writing for myself and some Church friends. Since the Bible software I used to use on XP Pro piggybacks on IE6 DLL's in part of its system, I absolutely *need* access to XP and IE6. I plan on buying Win4Lin Pro when XP is stable on it. I don't think I can handle the complexity of the VMware emulator. But maybe I'm wrong. I would be willing to handle VMware's cost if I could handle the installation, bug fixing, updating, etc. The Bible software I use, I use quite frequently if not daily, and it is one GB in size and cost me several hundred dollars. I don't want to give it up. The BibleTime software available on Linux doesn't come close to comparing to the several hundred of volumes on Logos Libronix. Crossover can't handle Libronix nor can Wine (at least the versions I investigated months ago). That is why I have a strong, serious interest in a good wordprocessor. And I am told by some friends that Novell's wordprocessor is better and much more stable than OpenOfficeOrg 1.1. And I really do not want to give up Linux. Any advice from anyone on this list regarding getting my Bible software working on Suse or Novell would be greatly appreciated. Sorry this is so long a post. Is a post like this permitted on the list or should I break it down into several? Andy
On Saturday 26 March 2005 15:23, Andy Yankovich wrote:
On Saturday 26 March 2005 17:35, BandiPat wrote:
If you right click the panel, go to Add applet then Dictionary. Now I'm using 3.4 KDE, but there should be little difference. Lee
Please read all.
Dictionary is simply NOT there. If it comes with 9.3 then I'll just
Kdict is part of the kdenetwork3-query rpm. Make sure you have it installed. HTH Michael
On Saturday 26 March 2005 18:32, Michael Siefritz wrote:
Kdict is part of the kdenetwork3-query rpm. Make sure you have it installed.
HTH Michael
Thank you, Michael Installed kdenetwork3-query and there it was. Just for the sake of my understanding, how could I know what was necessary to install to load the dictionary. Should I be reading something that I obviously have not (yet) read? Andy
On Sunday 27 March 2005 06:19 pm, Andy Yankovich wrote:
On Saturday 26 March 2005 18:32, Michael Siefritz wrote:
Kdict is part of the kdenetwork3-query rpm. Make sure you have it installed.
HTH Michael
Thank you, Michael Installed kdenetwork3-query and there it was.
Just for the sake of my understanding, how could I know what was necessary to install to load the dictionary. Should I be reading something that I obviously have not (yet) read?
Andy ========
Andy, Many times SuSE will separate the files into different rpms. Why exactly, I'm not sure. Maybe to make the files smaller for modem users or to move programs some aren't using regularly, but whatever the case, one should usually get all the new KDE files. Rather than just update the installed packages, I usually just get them all and install everything from a shell. Users of Red Carpet or apt or even YaST2 will only do the installed system file updates, leaving many of the others untouched. Like you, they begin to miss many of the programs they use and wonder why. As you can see now, it's because it didn't get updated or reinstalled. Lee -- --- KMail v1.8 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 "He's not my brother, he's just heavy." ........Bucky Katt
On Sunday 27 March 2005 20:22, BandiPat wrote: snip
Rather than just update the installed packages, I usually just get them all and install everything from a shell. Users of Red Carpet or apt or even YaST2 will only do the installed system file updates, leaving many of the others untouched. Lee How do you know you got them all and where does one go to "get them all?"
Andy
On Sunday 27 March 2005 10:26 pm, Andy Yankovich wrote:
On Sunday 27 March 2005 20:22, BandiPat wrote: snip
Rather than just update the installed packages, I usually just get them all and install everything from a shell. Users of Red Carpet or apt or even YaST2 will only do the installed system file updates, leaving many of the others untouched. Lee
How do you know you got them all and where does one go to "get them all?"
Andy ===========
I have one of their (SuSE) mirrors bookmarked in my browser and most times use Red Carpet to help keep me alerted to updates, but then go to the site to download all the new files, because some may be missed with RC. Here is the one I use most often, but there are many more. ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.2/ That line may wordwrap on you, but it's all one line. I generally keep up with the dates of the files, so I'll know which new ones to download each time. Lee
On Sunday 27 March 2005 15:19, Andy Yankovich wrote:
On Saturday 26 March 2005 18:32, Michael Siefritz wrote:
Just for the sake of my understanding, how could I know what was necessary to install to load the dictionary. Should I be reading something that I obviously have not (yet) read?
I'm using the dictionary as well, so I knew that the program is called kdict. From there it was a 'which kdict', followed by a 'rpm -qf /opt/kde3/bin/kdict' to find the package. Of course this does not do you any good, if you don't know what exactly you are looking for. My first approach in this case would be to use the search functionality in the YaST software installation. Or google to maybe find a reference. Or ask the list :) Take care Michael
Lee and Michael, Thank you very much for your help and consideration in helping. It is sure nice to know that people like you are out there in cyberspace, willing to help others. Andy
On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 07:03, Michael Siefritz wrote:
On Sunday 27 March 2005 15:19, Andy Yankovich wrote:
On Saturday 26 March 2005 18:32, Michael Siefritz wrote:
Just for the sake of my understanding, how could I know what was necessary to install to load the dictionary. Should I be reading something that I obviously have not (yet) read?
<snip> You can use the program called pin. pin dict will show you which rpm you require. Regards Ian
Take care
Michael
On Saturday 26 March 2005 06:23 pm, Andy Yankovich wrote: [...]
Please read all.
Dictionary is simply NOT there. If it comes with 9.3 then I'll just wait instead of putting you thru all that trouble. Heck, I forget to look in the dictionary anyway nowadays. ************
Ok, I'll mention it again from Michael's mail, Kdict is part of the kdenetwork3-query rpm, make sure that is installed. ==========
BTW, good friend, is Novell Desktop much different than Suse Pro? What are the major advantages in upgrading to Suse Pro 9.3 rather than Novell Desktop? If I go to Novell do I lose the good people on this list? For a dummy like me is it better for me to buy the 9.3 package that to try to upgrade thru Yast or whatever? ***********
Novell Desktop is designed for the office worker/secretary with mostly or only that in mine, so you would probably be missing several things you need or want in SuSE 9.2/9.3! ==========
I really would like a good wordprocessor in the near future. I do some "retirement" type writing for myself and some Church friends. Since the Bible software I used to use on XP Pro piggybacks on IE6 DLL's in part of its system, I absolutely *need* access to XP and IE6. I plan on buying Win4Lin Pro when XP is stable on it. I don't think I can handle the complexity of the VMware emulator. But maybe I'm wrong. I would be willing to handle VMware's cost if I could handle the installation, bug fixing, updating, etc. *********
Linux is full of good word processors! KOffice, OpenOffice.org, AbiWord are all available. Also, you can use Scribus, if you need desktop publishing software to do newsletters, etc for the church. All really good stuff. Plus, OpenOffice.org 2.0 will be included with 9.3 next month. KOffice is becoming quite good as well. ===========
The Bible software I use, I use quite frequently if not daily, and it is one GB in size and cost me several hundred dollars. I don't want to give it up. The BibleTime software available on Linux doesn't come close to comparing to the several hundred of volumes on Logos Libronix. Crossover can't handle Libronix nor can Wine (at least the versions I investigated months ago). ***********
Are you sure there is not a comparable package available for Linux? I do believe there are some very good packages around, but you may need to do a search. Open Konqueror browser and type either "sf:bible or gg:bible for Linux" in the URL box. I think you'll be surprised. Also, it's quite possible to install IE6 with the Wine included with SuSE and I'm betting your old windows bible software too. ==========
That is why I have a strong, serious interest in a good wordprocessor. And I am told by some friends that Novell's wordprocessor is better and much more stable than OpenOfficeOrg 1.1. And I really do not want to give up Linux. **********
The same OpenOffice.org software included in standard SuSE is also used in Novell's, do I doubt you see any difference. ========= regards, Lee -- --- KMail v1.8 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 "He's not my brother, he's just heavy." ........Bucky Katt
On Saturday 26 March 2005 19:06, BandiPat wrote:
Are you sure there is not a comparable package available for Linux? I do believe there are some very good packages around, but you may need to do a search. Open Konqueror browser and type either "sf:bible or gg:bible for Linux" in the URL box. I think you'll be surprised. Also, it's quite possible to install IE6 with the Wine included with SuSE and I'm betting your old windows bible software too.
Absolutely, Positively Certain there is not a Linux version of Libronix. I am only 99 percent sure there is nothing comperable in Linux. (Nothing comperable in Windows either). But thanks for the google reminder. Some time ago I noticed a mailing discussion list for those interested in bible use on Linux was going to start. When I just looked, it had just started. Thanks. Also 100 percent certain CodeWeavers Crossover is unable to handle Libronix. It specifically states that on its web site. On one of these lists, some kind person in South Africa wrote that IE6 (and it must be IE6) could be separated from XP and installed in the Qemu emulator along with (I think) a *different* windows version (maybe ME or 2000). However he said he was unable to get it to work well in Wine. Problem was "unstable". He also gave the URL for instructions(?) on how to separate IE from XP, but, during one of my reformats and reinstalls (I thought I backed up and my saved my email) I did not do it properly AND I LOST his name, his email address, and the url for instructions. Libronix needs IE6 but it also needs XP (or at least a late windows version compatible with IE6) to run, and I did not think Wine could use any Windows higher than 98SE -but that was a while ago that I looked. Also I am truly afraid to mess with the kernel to install Windows via Wine. NEXT topic: Which of those Linux word processors is the strongest in features for long article writing? Many thanks for your help. How can I return the favor? Andy
On Saturday 26 March 2005 08:22 pm, Andy Yankovich wrote:
Absolutely, Positively Certain there is not a Linux version of Libronix. I am only 99 percent sure there is nothing comperable in Linux. (Nothing comperable in Windows either). But thanks for the google reminder. Some time ago I noticed a mailing discussion list for those interested in bible use on Linux was going to start. When I just looked, it had just started. Thanks.
Also 100 percent certain CodeWeavers Crossover is unable to handle Libronix. It specifically states that on its web site. ==========
Ok, just curious, because I found several things on Sourceforge when I did the "sf:bible" entry. Looked like some pretty complete bible study programs, although not nearly as complete as Libronix. I had a look at that program and it offers quite a lot, if you are extensively into bible & the holy land study. =========== [...]
Libronix needs IE6 but it also needs XP (or at least a late windows version compatible with IE6) to run, and I did not think Wine could use any Windows higher than 98SE -but that was a while ago that I looked. Also I am truly afraid to mess with the kernel to install Windows via Wine. **********
You might want to setup a machine with Windows or fix yourself a dual boot type setup, so you can use it then. That may be the best alternative for you at the moment, although putting Windows or IE on the internet is asking for trouble. =========
NEXT topic: Which of those Linux word processors is the strongest in features for long article writing?
Many thanks for your help. How can I return the favor?
Andy
OpenOffice.org is probably your strongest with the most usable features presently. It is also available for Windows. Using that would make it easy to move back and forth with files. Glad to be of some help Lee
On Saturday 26 March 2005 20:41, BandiPat wrote:
On Saturday 26 March 2005 08:22 pm, Andy Yankovich wrote:
Absolutely, Positively Certain there is not a Linux version of Libronix. I am only 99 percent sure there is nothing comperable in Linux. (Nothing comperable in Windows either). But thanks for the google reminder. Some time ago I noticed a mailing discussion list for those interested in bible use on Linux was going to start. When I just looked, it had just started. Thanks.
Also 100 percent certain CodeWeavers Crossover is unable to handle Libronix. It specifically states that on its web site. ==========
Ok, just curious, because I found several things on Sourceforge when I did the "sf:bible" entry. Looked like some pretty complete bible study programs, although not nearly as complete as Libronix. I had a look at that program and it offers quite a lot, if you are extensively into bible & the holy land study. =========== [...]
Libronix needs IE6 but it also needs XP (or at least a late windows version compatible with IE6) to run, and I did not think Wine could use any Windows higher than 98SE -but that was a while ago that I looked. Also I am truly afraid to mess with the kernel to install Windows via Wine. **********
You might want to setup a machine with Windows or fix yourself a dual boot type setup, so you can use it then. That may be the best alternative for you at the moment, although putting Windows or IE on the internet is asking for trouble. =========
NEXT topic: Which of those Linux word processors is the strongest in features for long article writing?
Many thanks for your help. How can I return the favor?
Andy
**********
OpenOffice.org is probably your strongest with the most usable features presently. It is also available for Windows. Using that would make it easy to move back and forth with files.
Glad to be of some help Lee
There has been an extremely helpful set of articles on the Linux Journal website on using styles in OOo. Actually for the past year, there have been one or two articles each month that are available on-line only. I would recommend looking at them. They should be quite useful in getting you going on long articles, especially if you can build up a set of styles that you use regularly and then just apply them as needed to the articles. The series has been called "OOo: Off the Wall". -- Kelly L. Fulks Home Account near Huntsville, AL
On Monday 28 March 2005 08:18, Kelly Fulks wrote:
There has been an extremely helpful set of articles on the Linux Journal website on using styles in OOo. Actually for the past year, there have been one or two articles each month that are available on-line only. I would recommend looking at them. They should be quite useful in getting you going on long articles, especially if you can build up a set of styles that you use regularly and then just apply them as needed to the articles. The series has been called "OOo: Off the Wall".
Wonderful idea. Subscribed to the Linux Journal and to the OpenOfficeorg Forum. the forum has already answered a half-dozen questions I had and that was during the first quick look at some of the topics. The "off the wall" articles are simply great. Fantastic! Christmas gift in March. Thank you Kelly, Andy
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