I have problems with my keyboard group toggle. With KDE3.04 I had used /etc/X11/XF86Config to set the toggle keys to alt-shift (to toggle between keyboard language settings, greek - US in my case). Now, I saw the Keyboard Settings dialogue in the Control Center, and set there the "Group Shift/Lock behaviour" to "Alt+Shift changes group". As soon as I applied it, the nice mini-US flag in Kicker showed up, but the toggle keys didn't work anymore... I can change the keyboard, clicking the flag, so that at least works. I commented out the setting in XF86Config for possible interference problems, but that didn't help. Any ideas? Kostas
Hello Kostas, You don't need to have US flag at all. Just set "Primary Layout" to Greek and disable US English from the list "Additional layouts" (and enable Greek there, too). Then (if you need Greek and English only), you'd have always Greek flag. Nikola On Tuesday 25 February 2003 11:37, Konstantinos Georgokitsos wrote:
I have problems with my keyboard group toggle. With KDE3.04 I had used /etc/X11/XF86Config to set the toggle keys to alt-shift (to toggle between keyboard language settings, greek - US in my case). Now, I saw the Keyboard Settings dialogue in the Control Center, and set there the "Group Shift/Lock behaviour" to "Alt+Shift changes group". As soon as I applied it, the nice mini-US flag in Kicker showed up, but the toggle keys didn't work anymore... I can change the keyboard, clicking the flag, so that at least works. I commented out the setting in XF86Config for possible interference problems, but that didn't help.
Any ideas?
Kostas
I wasn't clear with my question. My problem is that pressing alt-shift doesn't switch the keyboard anymore, even if this is the behaviour selected in the Control Center. The flag is not the problem. At the moment switching the keyboard between English and Greek is only possible via the flag. However, I want the Alt-Shift combination to do that in addition. Maybe this is clearer. Kostas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikola Lecic" <nikola@serbianunity.net> To: "Konstantinos Georgokitsos" <kgeorgokitsos@nomioan.gr>; <suse-kde@suse.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [suse-kde] Keyboard group toggle in KDE 3.1
Hello Kostas,
You don't need to have US flag at all. Just set "Primary Layout" to Greek and disable US English from the list "Additional layouts" (and enable Greek there, too). Then (if you need Greek and English only), you'd have always Greek flag.
Nikola
On Tuesday 25 February 2003 11:37, Konstantinos Georgokitsos wrote:
I have problems with my keyboard group toggle. With KDE3.04 I had used /etc/X11/XF86Config to set the toggle keys to alt-shift (to toggle between keyboard language settings, greek - US in my case). Now, I saw the Keyboard Settings dialogue in the Control Center, and set there the "Group Shift/Lock behaviour" to "Alt+Shift changes group". As soon as I applied it, the nice mini-US flag in Kicker showed up, but the toggle keys didn't work anymore... I can change the keyboard, clicking the flag, so that at least works. I commented out the setting in XF86Config for possible interference problems, but that didn't help.
Any ideas?
Kostas
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I see. U are used to like it works in Windows, for example -- a group_toggle key combination swithces layout. However, here it works a little bit different. You may find all the details in documantation about XKB, but in shorts, it looks like the following. the group_switch (in my case -- it is Ctrl-Shift, in yours -- Alt-Shift, etc), only switches xkb-groups -- being short -- from Latin to Local. what layout you want to use as "Local" you usually specify in XF68Config as "XKBLayout" option -- and it is constant all the time. When you select "Primary" keyboard layout setup in KDE control center -- it is the same as you specify the XKBlayout in XF86config -- if you have selected the US flag as your promary layout -- group switch will do nothing. When you select other flags in Control center as additional layouts -- they are temprorally "inactive" untill you select those flags manually by clicking the system tray flag icon, or by using Ctrl-Alt-K combination. -- for example, you have also selected Russian and greek flags as alternative layouts in KDE control center, and currently, you see the US flag in the tray -- then Ctrl-Shift wont switch any groups. when you selected Greek flag in system tray -- then Ctrl-Shift will swithc your layout between Greek and Latin, If you click the sys-tray flag once more -- it will change to russian, and now Ctrl-Shift changes between Russian and Latin. unfortunately -- this is the way it works now. My advice to you: if you want the Ctrl-Shift behavior you've been used to, then return all your settings to XF86Config where they were, disable the keyboard layout swithcing in KDE control center, and find a small program called KKBSWITCH (on apps.kde.com) -- it uses your current XF86Config settings, and it only shows the flag of your current layout in the tray, and also, it changes layout when you click it -- in the same manner as you are probably used to it in Windows. On Tuesday 25 February 2003 15:17, Konstantinos Georgokitsos wrote:
I wasn't clear with my question. My problem is that pressing alt-shift doesn't switch the keyboard anymore, even if this is the behaviour selected in the Control Center. The flag is not the problem. At the moment switching the keyboard between English and Greek is only possible via the flag. However, I want the Alt-Shift combination to do that in addition.
Maybe this is clearer.
Kostas
----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikola Lecic" <nikola@serbianunity.net> To: "Konstantinos Georgokitsos" <kgeorgokitsos@nomioan.gr>; <suse-kde@suse.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [suse-kde] Keyboard group toggle in KDE 3.1
Hello Kostas,
You don't need to have US flag at all. Just set "Primary Layout" to Greek and disable US English from the list "Additional layouts" (and enable Greek there, too). Then (if you need Greek and English only), you'd have always Greek flag.
Nikola
On Tuesday 25 February 2003 11:37, Konstantinos Georgokitsos wrote:
I have problems with my keyboard group toggle. With KDE3.04 I had used /etc/X11/XF86Config to set the toggle keys to alt-shift (to toggle between keyboard language settings, greek - US in my case). Now, I saw the Keyboard Settings dialogue in the Control Center, and set there the "Group Shift/Lock behaviour" to "Alt+Shift changes group". As soon as I applied it, the nice mini-US flag in Kicker showed up, but the toggle keys didn't work anymore... I can change the keyboard, clicking the flag, so that at least works. I commented out the setting in XF86Config for possible interference problems, but that didn't help.
Any ideas?
Kostas
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Konstantinos Georgokitsos
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Nikola Lecic
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Vitaly Shishakov