[opensuse-kde] KDE PIM and mobile device syncing news

Tejas Guruswamy

22 Sep 2010 22 Sep '10

12:24

All, Just wanted to pass on some information to those of you who are interested in syncing your KDE PIM data with mobile devices. Basically after a long time of stagnation some development is going on again and we'd like to get more users testing stuff. Some of you may remember KitchenSync, the KDE OpenSync frontend on KDE 3.5; and how it was doubly abandoned by OpenSync moving from 0.22 to 0.3x and KDE moving from 3.x to 4.x. Well, I've resurrected it for KDE SC 4 + OpenSync 0.22 (the current, shipped version of OpenSync) [1]. Please test and give feedback. Meanwhile development on the KitchenSync OpenSync 0.3x branch has also restarted (see [2]) - however that's waiting on the release of OpenSync 0.40, which now almost three years late and counting. I've also finished the porting of the kdepim plugin to KDE/Qt 4; that lets you sync with KAddressbook, KOrganizer, and KNotes (KDE SC <= 4.4). Be warned that note syncing is currently broken because of bko#251914 [3] (patch available there), I'll try and push a fix to the openSUSE KDEPIM packages at least. For now a fixed knotes is available in obs://home:MasterPatricko:sync [4]. I've also written a brand new akonadi-sync plugin [4] to sync OpenSync 0.22 with akonadi ( i.e. KDE SC >= 4.4 ). This is not to be confused with the OpenSync 0.3x version available on KDE SVN - which is, again, waiting for OpenSync 0.40. OpenSUSE packages for all this are available in home:MasterPatricko:sync; I'll send relatively stable snapshots to KDE:Unstable:Playground too. If you weren't aware, OpenSync provides plugins to sync with Blackberrys, Windows Mobile devices, mobile phones over USB, bluetooth, and IR, Google Calendar, Evolution, and Mozilla Sunbird/Lightning among others -- see http://www.opensync.org, though its slightly out of date. Regards, Tejas PS. slightly more instructions on my blog at masterpatricko.blogspot.com [1] http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KitchenSync?content=132898 [2] http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/opensync-plugin-kdepim?content=132899 [3] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=251914 [4] http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/MasterPatricko:/sync/ [4] http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/opensync-plugin-akonadi?content=132900 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

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Dotan Cohen

22 Sep 22 Sep

15:41

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 14:24, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:

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All,

Just wanted to pass on some information to those of you who are interested in syncing your KDE PIM data with mobile devices. Basically after a long time of stagnation some development is going on again and we'd like to get more users testing stuff.

Some of you may remember KitchenSync, the KDE OpenSync frontend on KDE 3.5; and how it was doubly abandoned by OpenSync moving from 0.22 to 0.3x and KDE moving from 3.x to 4.x.

Well, I've resurrected it for KDE SC 4 + OpenSync 0.22 (the current, shipped version of OpenSync) [1]. Please test and give feedback.

Why on the abandoned 0.22 branch? I understand the rate of progress on 0.40 (google my own mesages on the opensync list), but 0.22 is three years out of date and completely abandoned (like KDE 3.x). I would be very interested in testing this for the Symbian platform if it were based on Opensync 0.40.

...

Meanwhile development on the KitchenSync OpenSync 0.3x branch has also restarted (see [2]) - however that's waiting on the release of OpenSync 0.40, which now almost three years late and counting.

Oh, nice! But it is for the abandoned pre-Akonadi KDEPIM. So again, I'll have to wait until the project keeps up with KDEPIM and will not become throw-away code.

...

I've also finished the porting of the kdepim plugin to KDE/Qt 4; that lets you sync with KAddressbook, KOrganizer, and KNotes (KDE SC <= 4.4). Be warned that note syncing is currently broken because of bko#251914 [3] (patch available there), I'll try and push a fix to the openSUSE KDEPIM packages at least. For now a fixed knotes is available in obs://home:MasterPatricko:sync [4].

I've also written a brand new akonadi-sync plugin [4] to sync OpenSync 0.22 with akonadi ( i.e. KDE SC >= 4.4 ). This is not to be confused with the OpenSync 0.3x version available on KDE SVN - which is, again, waiting for OpenSync 0.40.

OpenSUSE packages for all this are available in home:MasterPatricko:sync; I'll send relatively stable snapshots to KDE:Unstable:Playground too.

If you weren't aware, OpenSync provides plugins to sync with Blackberrys, Windows Mobile devices, mobile phones over USB, bluetooth, and IR, Google Calendar, Evolution, and Mozilla Sunbird/Lightning among others -- see http://www.opensync.org, though its slightly out of date.

Thank you for your hard work, Tejas. Just in the past week I have been moving all my PIM data out of Kontact and into Google products. I've had a few problems along the way (I don't have a blog, but I'd like to document them) but overall I am very happy with the move. Which makes me sad as a KDE advocate. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Tejas Guruswamy

16:45

On 22/09/10 16:41, Dotan Cohen wrote:

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On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 14:24, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:

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Well, I've resurrected it for KDE SC 4 + OpenSync 0.22 (the current, shipped version of OpenSync) [1]. Please test and give feedback.

Why on the abandoned 0.22 branch? I understand the rate of progress on 0.40 (google my own mesages on the opensync list), but 0.22 is three years out of date and completely abandoned (like KDE 3.x). I would be very interested in testing this for the Symbian platform if it were based on Opensync 0.40.

The thing is, OpenSync doesn't want distros to ship till OpenSync 0.40 is ready - so all distro's, including for example openSUSE 11.3, still ship OpenSync 0.22 - semi-unmaintained or not - so OpenSync 0.22 is still the only thing widely available. Sure, its sad that so much work has to go into supporting an old product but until the OpenSync devs get their act together its all we've got.

...

...
Meanwhile development on the KitchenSync OpenSync 0.3x branch has also restarted (see [2]) - however that's waiting on the release of OpenSync 0.40, which now almost three years late and counting. Oh, nice! But it is for the abandoned pre-Akonadi KDEPIM. So again, I'll have to wait until the project keeps up with KDEPIM and will not become throw-away code.

Actually, KitchenSync is an OpenSync frontend - it doesn't care about akonadi vs kresources. All it needed was to be ported to KDE4 (and then backported to OpenSync 0.22).

...

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I've also finished the porting of the kdepim plugin to KDE/Qt 4; that lets you sync with KAddressbook, KOrganizer, and KNotes (KDE SC <= 4.4). Be warned that note syncing is currently broken because of bko#251914 [3] (patch available there), I'll try and push a fix to the openSUSE KDEPIM packages at least. For now a fixed knotes is available in obs://home:MasterPatricko:sync [4].

This is the bit that's specific for pre-akonadi KDEPIM.

...
I've also written a brand new akonadi-sync plugin [4] to sync OpenSync 0.22 with akonadi ( i.e. KDE SC >= 4.4 ). This is not to be confused with the OpenSync 0.3x version available on KDE SVN - which is, again, waiting for OpenSync 0.40.

This is the bit that's for post-akonadi KDEPIM. Both are available! (and for both branches of OpenSync, too! I've done the 0.22 version, 0.3x is half finished on KDE SVN - development on that is resuming)

...
OpenSUSE packages for all this are available in home:MasterPatricko:sync; I'll send relatively stable snapshots to KDE:Unstable:Playground too.

If you weren't aware, OpenSync provides plugins to sync with Blackberrys, Windows Mobile devices, mobile phones over USB, bluetooth, and IR, Google Calendar, Evolution, and Mozilla Sunbird/Lightning among others -- see http://www.opensync.org, though its slightly out of date.

Thank you for your hard work, Tejas. Just in the past week I have been moving all my PIM data out of Kontact and into Google products. I've had a few problems along the way (I don't have a blog, but I'd like to document them) but overall I am very happy with the move. Which makes me sad as a KDE advocate.

I assume you know about akonadi-googledata - you can host on google and still use KDE. In addition the akonadi sync plugin I mention above should work just fine with akonadi-googledata resources (that's the brilliance of akonadi). There is also an OpenSync google plugin you could try out. So whichever backend you choose, there should be a way to sync. Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

todd rme

16:48

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:

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On 22/09/10 16:41, Dotan Cohen wrote:

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On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 14:24, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:

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Well, I've resurrected it for KDE SC 4 + OpenSync 0.22 (the current, shipped version of OpenSync) [1]. Please test and give feedback.

Why on the abandoned 0.22 branch? I understand the rate of progress on 0.40 (google my own mesages on the opensync list), but 0.22 is three years out of date and completely abandoned (like KDE 3.x). I would be very interested in testing this for the Symbian platform if it were based on Opensync 0.40.

The thing is, OpenSync doesn't want distros to ship till OpenSync 0.40 is ready - so all distro's, including for example openSUSE 11.3, still ship OpenSync 0.22 - semi-unmaintained or not - so OpenSync 0.22 is still the only thing widely available. Sure, its sad that so much work has to go into supporting an old product but until the OpenSync devs get their act together its all we've got.

...
...
Meanwhile development on the KitchenSync OpenSync 0.3x branch has also restarted (see [2]) - however that's waiting on the release of OpenSync 0.40, which now almost three years late and counting. Oh, nice! But it is for the abandoned pre-Akonadi KDEPIM. So again, I'll have to wait until the project keeps up with KDEPIM and will not become throw-away code.

Actually, KitchenSync is an OpenSync frontend - it doesn't care about akonadi vs kresources. All it needed was to be ported to KDE4 (and then backported to OpenSync 0.22).

...
...
I've also finished the porting of the kdepim plugin to KDE/Qt 4; that lets you sync with KAddressbook, KOrganizer, and KNotes (KDE SC <= 4.4). Be warned that note syncing is currently broken because of bko#251914 [3] (patch available there), I'll try and push a fix to the openSUSE KDEPIM packages at least. For now a fixed knotes is available in obs://home:MasterPatricko:sync [4].

This is the bit that's specific for pre-akonadi KDEPIM.

...
I've also written a brand new akonadi-sync plugin [4] to sync OpenSync 0.22 with akonadi ( i.e. KDE SC >= 4.4 ). This is not to be confused with the OpenSync 0.3x version available on KDE SVN - which is, again, waiting for OpenSync 0.40.

This is the bit that's for post-akonadi KDEPIM. Both are available! (and for both branches of OpenSync, too! I've done the 0.22 version, 0.3x is half finished on KDE SVN - development on that is resuming)

...
OpenSUSE packages for all this are available in home:MasterPatricko:sync; I'll send relatively stable snapshots to KDE:Unstable:Playground too.

If you weren't aware, OpenSync provides plugins to sync with Blackberrys, Windows Mobile devices, mobile phones over USB, bluetooth, and IR, Google Calendar, Evolution, and Mozilla Sunbird/Lightning among others -- see http://www.opensync.org, though its slightly out of date.

Thank you for your hard work, Tejas. Just in the past week I have been moving all my PIM data out of Kontact and into Google products. I've had a few problems along the way (I don't have a blog, but I'd like to document them) but overall I am very happy with the move. Which makes me sad as a KDE advocate.

I assume you know about akonadi-googledata - you can host on google and still use KDE. In addition the akonadi sync plugin I mention above should work just fine with akonadi-googledata resources (that's the brilliance of akonadi). There is also an OpenSync google plugin you could try out. So whichever backend you choose, there should be a way to sync.

Regards, Tejas

What is the relationship between this and the SyncML GSOC project? -Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Tejas Guruswamy

17:14

On 22/09/10 17:48, todd rme wrote:

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What is the relationship between this and the SyncML GSOC project? -Todd

Nothing specific. The only link is that OpenSync has a SyncML plugin too. If you have a SyncML device, I assume you can sync directly KDEPIM <-> SyncML device using the GSoC work. I've never tested it or seen it work myself, I only heard that the project was technically successful - I don't even know if the SyncEvolution / SyncML / Funambol projects ever went the final step of being integrated into KDE and made available to users. Or you could sync KDEPIM <-> OpenSync <-> SyncML device. The advantage here is that OpenSync has many other plugins besides SyncML; and you can actually sync between more than two members if you want. As a slightly crazy example you could sync between SyncML (phone) <-> PDA (Windows Mobile) <-> Google Calendar/Contacts <-> file backup <-> KDE PIM all at the same time. Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

Dotan Cohen

24 Sep 24 Sep

20:08

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 18:45, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:

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The thing is, OpenSync doesn't want distros to ship till OpenSync 0.40 is ready - so all distro's, including for example openSUSE 11.3, still ship OpenSync 0.22 - semi-unmaintained or not - so OpenSync 0.22 is still the only thing widely available. Sure, its sad that so much work has to go into supporting an old product but until the OpenSync devs get their act together its all we've got.

I see, thanks. Can I quote that last line on the Opensync list? I'll simple attribute it as a "KDE dev" and let them either google it or ask for more details (If you agree).

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I assume you know about akonadi-googledata - you can host on google and still use KDE. In addition the akonadi sync plugin I mention above should work just fine with akonadi-googledata resources (that's the brilliance of akonadi).

No, I didn't know about that. I might not need it, though, as I am simply moving all my PIM data to Google for now. I might go back to Kontact after KDE 4.7 or so, but it's too unstable for me now. I've been working on the move this past week.

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There is also an OpenSync google plugin you could try out. So whichever backend you choose, there should be a way to sync.

Thanks for the info, Tejas. I wish to you the best of luck. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org

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