I thought I would start with a posting here to see what feedback I might get. I searched KDE bugs but did not find this particular issue and if the consensus here in this news group is that I should report this as a bug I will... I am running SuSE 10.3 and have been working for quite a while now trying to track down a problem that starts to occurs near the end of boot up and then occurring intermittently thereafter. The problem I am experiencing is freezes where the GUI becomes unresponsive for several minutes at a time, or it becomes extremely sluggish. This freeze always occurs near the end of booting up and each of the final steps will take several minutes to report that it as completed. As X becomes active and the KDE desktop comes up this process will take upwards of 15 minutes to complete. After a while the KDE desktop will become intermittently quite responsive for a bit, then will become quite unresponsive again for a bit... I have tried removing all services except those required by X11 without success, and am now going through log files to see what complaints are showing up there and trying to clean them up. I have looked at TOP and VMSTAT to see if I have a process taking up all the CPU time or am having swapping troubles. Again so far without success. I then decided to take a look at KDE itself to see what I might try and there I learned about a bunch of services that KDE is running and so I tried to stop them. This had no effect on this problem either. Next I found there is something called a Session Manager and when I tried to open it, it crashes! So I now suspect I should get that working to see if this may be the cause of my GUI unresponsiveness. The KDE Crash reporter gave me a walkback which I have included below. Any one got any ideas on what this means? Thanks in advance for any help offered and please remember I am NOT a Linux guru by any means... So if you have a suggestion for me to try, please don't use any advance terms or expect me to have a lot of detailed knowledge about Linux and its toolset... Marc Chamberlin Attached is the stack walkback from the crash when I tried to open the Session Manger found in Personal Settings -> KDE Components -> Session Manager Something that caught my eye in this walkback is that there are references to the ATI fglrx driver. I am using the ATI Radeon x1600 video card with the fglrx driver, could something be amiss with this driver? [?1034h(no debugging symbols found) Using host libthread_db library "/lib64/libthread_db.so.1". (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread 0x2acdfb1533e0 (LWP 28335)] (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) [KCrash handler] #5 0x00002acdf6984b45 in raise () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #6 0x00002acdf69860e0 in abort () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #7 0x00002acdf697e07f in __assert_fail () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #8 0x00002acdf6362c96 in _XReply () from /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6 #9 0x00002acdfe4e4643 in AtiCallFGLCWDDE () from /usr/lib64/xorg/libGL.so.1 #10 0x00002acdff1d75dc in DRICallFGLCWDDE () from /usr/lib64/dri/fglrx_dri.so #11 0x00002acdff2288e8 in lnxioGetDongleInfo () from /usr/lib64/dri/fglrx_dri.so #12 0x00002acdff0b9836 in ioOpen () from /usr/lib64/dri/fglrx_dri.so #13 0x00002acdff0b09a4 in gslOpen () from /usr/lib64/dri/fglrx_dri.so #14 0x00002acdfe6f6d2a in gldvOpen () from /usr/lib64/dri/fglrx_dri.so #15 0x00002acdfed07899 in wsiDisplay::wsiDisplay () from /usr/lib64/dri/fglrx_dri.so #16 0x00002acdfed07b5e in wsiGetDisplay () from /usr/lib64/dri/fglrx_dri.so #17 0x00002acdff1d9ac7 in __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 () from /usr/lib64/dri/fglrx_dri.so #18 0x00002acdfe4c1531 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/xorg/libGL.so.1 #19 0x00002acdfe4bdd55 in glXQueryExtensionsString () from /usr/lib64/xorg/libGL.so.1 #20 0x00002acdfda56d3f in SMServerConfig::load () from /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kcm_smserver.so #21 0x00002acdfda570c9 in SMServerConfig::SMServerConfig () from /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kcm_smserver.so #22 0x00002acdfda57d7a in KGenericFactory<SMServerConfig, QWidget>::createObject () from /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kcm_smserver.so #23 0x00002acdf530ea3a in KLibFactory::create () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdecore.so.4 #24 0x00002acdfc0a2ddf in KCModuleLoader::load () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkutils.so.1 #25 0x00002acdfc0a35a8 in KCModuleLoader::loadModule () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkutils.so.1 #26 0x00002acdfb7b6c52 in ConfigModule::module () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so #27 0x00002acdfb7b6fdd in ModuleWidget::load () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so #28 0x00002acdfb7b7096 in DockContainer::loadModule () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so #29 0x00002acdfb7b7313 in DockContainer::dockModule () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so #30 0x00002acdfb7bb2d5 in TopLevel::activateModule () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so #31 0x00002acdfb7be8a7 in TopLevel::qt_invoke () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so #32 0x00002acdf5a0ae9c in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #33 0x00002acdfb7ad7b2 in IndexWidget::moduleActivated () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so #34 0x00002acdfb7bb595 in IndexWidget::moduleSelected () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so #35 0x00002acdfb7bba71 in IndexWidget::qt_invoke () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so #36 0x00002acdf5a0ae9c in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #37 0x00002acdfb7af692 in ModuleIconView::moduleSelected () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so #38 0x00002acdfb7bb04f in ModuleIconView::slotItemSelected () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so #39 0x00002acdfb7bb151 in ModuleIconView::qt_invoke () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so #40 0x00002acdf5a0ae9c in QObject::activate_signal () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #41 0x00002acdf5cffaf5 in QListView::clicked () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #42 0x00002acdf5add78a in QListView::contentsMouseReleaseEventEx () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #43 0x00002acdf6e6210a in KListView::contentsMouseReleaseEvent () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdeui.so.4 #44 0x00002acdf5b0863e in QScrollView::viewportMouseReleaseEvent () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #45 0x00002acdf5b065f0 in QScrollView::eventFilter () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #46 0x00002acdf5ad914f in QListView::eventFilter () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #47 0x00002acdf5a0a4a2 in QObject::activate_filters () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #48 0x00002acdf5a0a4f7 in QObject::event () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #49 0x00002acdf5a3c4a3 in QWidget::event () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #50 0x00002acdf59b470d in QApplication::internalNotify () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #51 0x00002acdf59b5622 in QApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #52 0x00002acdf53d83dd in KApplication::notify () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdecore.so.4 #53 0x00002acdf595c503 in QETWidget::translateMouseEvent () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #54 0x00002acdf595b445 in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #55 0x00002acdf596a7e2 in QEventLoop::processEvents () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #56 0x00002acdf59c8f83 in QEventLoop::enterLoop () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #57 0x00002acdf59c8e32 in QEventLoop::exec () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3 #58 0x00002acdfb7bfbe4 in kdemain () from /opt/kde3/lib64/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so #59 0x0000000000407e58 in QGList::~QGList () #60 0x0000000000408601 in QGList::~QGList () #61 0x0000000000408b29 in QGList::~QGList () #62 0x0000000000409452 in QGList::~QGList () #63 0x00002acdf6971b54 in __libc_start_main () from /lib64/libc.so.6 #64 0x0000000000404ce9 in QGList::~QGList () #65 0x00007fffb62ee248 in ?? 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