[opensuse-kde] Remove all traces of KF5/Plasma 5 from oS 13.2
Hi all. I'm trying to remove all traces of KF5 and Plasma 5 from my oS 13.2 system and revert to the last working version of KDE4. This seems to be like unscrambling an egg. The KDE4 repositories appear to have vanished, and telling Yast to switch system packages to the oS Update repository results in a never ending cycle of intertwined dependencies that insist on removing x86_64 packages and replacing them with i586 packages or removing the KDE base system altogether! After the last set up updates, the system is broken, with transparency apparently "not supported", hence my desire to revert. Besides, I hate the "flat" look of Plasma 5 and really don't want it (so I won't be upgrading to Leap any time soon). Is there a way, any way, to unscramble this egg, short of a complete reinstall? Perhaps I need to disable all bar the base oS 13.2 repositories and do a zypper dup (and dump all previous updates in the process)? Will that fix it? Or has the horse well and truly bolted with Plasma 5? I even thought about switching distros to Debian (desperate, I know) but even there, Plasma 5 is it. Any suggestions gratefully received (unless they involve sticking with Plasma 5). Regards, Rodney. -- ============================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au ============================================================== -- ============================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au ============================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday, 15 February 2016 12:02:12 CET Rodney Baker wrote:
I'm trying to remove all traces of KF5 and Plasma 5 from my oS 13.2 system and revert to the last working version of KDE4.
This seems to be like unscrambling an egg. The KDE4 repositories appear to have vanished, and telling Yast to switch system packages to the oS Update
openSUSE 13.2 has been shipped with KDE4 and therefore using the KDE4 packages from the normal distribution repositories would be the best way. KDE:Current was never build for openSUSE 13.2 as that it contains the same version. And of course the other repositories have been moved to the Frameworks/Plasma5 versions. But again. Reverting back by disabling all the separate repositories and just using the packages from the openSUSE 13.2 distribution and openSUSE 13.2 update repositories, should give you exactly what you need.
Any suggestions gratefully received (unless they involve sticking with Plasma 5).
Well, the above should work. And maybe it would be the best to do first a zypper dup from just the standard oS 13.2 distribution repository (to ensure no Plasma5 package is involved) and then afterwards to enable the Update repository. Plasma 5 was never forced to openSUSE 13.2. It was just provided as a kind of preview of what is coming up. Both Frameworks, Plasma and Apps are being build for openSUSE 13.2, but we also see that not everything can be build as that oS 13.2 does not have all requirements. Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 09:37:28 Raymond Wooninck wrote:
On Monday, 15 February 2016 12:02:12 CET Rodney Baker wrote:
I'm trying to remove all traces of KF5 and Plasma 5 from my oS 13.2 system and revert to the last working version of KDE4.
This seems to be like unscrambling an egg. The KDE4 repositories appear to have vanished, and telling Yast to switch system packages to the oS Update
openSUSE 13.2 has been shipped with KDE4 and therefore using the KDE4 packages from the normal distribution repositories would be the best way.
KDE:Current was never build for openSUSE 13.2 as that it contains the same version. And of course the other repositories have been moved to the Frameworks/Plasma5 versions.
But again. Reverting back by disabling all the separate repositories and just using the packages from the openSUSE 13.2 distribution and openSUSE 13.2 update repositories, should give you exactly what you need.
Any suggestions gratefully received (unless they involve sticking with Plasma 5).
Well, the above should work. And maybe it would be the best to do first a zypper dup from just the standard oS 13.2 distribution repository (to ensure no Plasma5 package is involved) and then afterwards to enable the Update repository.
Plasma 5 was never forced to openSUSE 13.2. It was just provided as a kind of preview of what is coming up. Both Frameworks, Plasma and Apps are being build for openSUSE 13.2, but we also see that not everything can be build as that oS 13.2 does not have all requirements.
Regards Raymond
Thanks Raymond, that's kind of what I was leaning towards. Not looking forward to it - the seemingly recursive dependencies seem difficult to resolve, but I'll give it a go. At worst, I can always reinstall, but I'd rather not lose all of my personal settings if I can help it. Regards, Rodney. -- ============================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au ============================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday, 18 February 2016 21:06:55 CET Rodney Baker wrote:
Thanks Raymond, that's kind of what I was leaning towards. Not looking forward to it - the seemingly recursive dependencies seem difficult to resolve, but I'll give it a go. At worst, I can always reinstall, but I'd rather not lose all of my personal settings if I can help it.
A normal installation would put the home filesysetm on a separate partition on your disk. This would mean that even a new installation or a reinstallation would not have any effect on your home directory. (Unless you choose to format it, etc). Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 11:45:39 Raymond Wooninck wrote:
On Thursday, 18 February 2016 21:06:55 CET Rodney Baker wrote:
Thanks Raymond, that's kind of what I was leaning towards. Not looking forward to it - the seemingly recursive dependencies seem difficult to resolve, but I'll give it a go. At worst, I can always reinstall, but I'd rather not lose all of my personal settings if I can help it.
A normal installation would put the home filesysetm on a separate partition on your disk. This would mean that even a new installation or a reinstallation would not have any effect on your home directory. (Unless you choose to format it, etc).
Regards
Raymond
Yes, you're right. Not only /home, but being an old-schooler I also have /root, /boot, /downloads, /data and /usr/local as separate filesystems (some of which live on separate physical disks). Unfortunately, even disabling all of the repos except the core openSuSE 13.2 repo, zypper dup got into an endlessly looping cycle of recursive dependencies, so it looks like a reinstall is my only real option. :( Oh, well - that will have to wait until I have a few spare hours with no other demands (which are very, very rare these days). Funny, transparency works exactly as it used to if I start up lxde instead of KDE. I can even watch TV with Kaffeine without it going black screen as soon as it loses focus in lxde. Thanks again. -- ============================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au ============================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 18. Februar 2016, 11:45:39 schrieb Raymond Wooninck:
On Thursday, 18 February 2016 21:06:55 CET Rodney Baker wrote:
Thanks Raymond, that's kind of what I was leaning towards. Not looking forward to it - the seemingly recursive dependencies seem difficult to resolve, but I'll give it a go. At worst, I can always reinstall, but I'd rather not lose all of my personal settings if I can help it.
A normal installation would put the home filesysetm on a separate partition on your disk. This would mean that even a new installation or a reinstallation would not have any effect on your home directory. (Unless you choose to format it, etc).
And you can also "upgrade" to the same openSUSE version by booting from the installation DVD and choosing "Upgrade" in the boot menu. This will in practice only re-install all packages according to the installation patterns, and leave your system and user config alone. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 21:33:06 Wolfgang Bauer wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 18. Februar 2016, 11:45:39 schrieb Raymond Wooninck:
On Thursday, 18 February 2016 21:06:55 CET Rodney Baker wrote:
Thanks Raymond, that's kind of what I was leaning towards. Not looking forward to it - the seemingly recursive dependencies seem difficult to resolve, but I'll give it a go. At worst, I can always reinstall, but I'd rather not lose all of my personal settings if I can help it.
A normal installation would put the home filesysetm on a separate partition on your disk. This would mean that even a new installation or a reinstallation would not have any effect on your home directory. (Unless you choose to format it, etc).
And you can also "upgrade" to the same openSUSE version by booting from the installation DVD and choosing "Upgrade" in the boot menu.
This will in practice only re-install all packages according to the installation patterns, and leave your system and user config alone.
Kind Regards, Wolfgang
Well, it seems I solved my original problem without going through the rigmarole of reinstalling. I checked the Desktop Effects settings and discovered that desktop effects were disabled and could not be enabled. In the Advanced tab under Desktop Effects, the Compositing type was set to OpenGL 3.1. I downgraded it to OpenGL 2.0 and everything started working again as before. So, I haven't managed to eradicate all traces of KF5, but at least my desktop functionality has been restored. Not sure how or when OpenGL 3.1 was enabled, or whether there are broken/conflicting libraries causing it to fail, or if this is somehow connected to the Nvidia binary driver (v361.18), but it is all working with OpenGL 2.0 so I'm happy for now. :) Thanks again for the input. Much appreciated. Rodney. -- ============================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au ============================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
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