[opensuse-kde] Firefox 29 (Australis)
Hi, I've just published the first Firefox 29 for openSUSE in the mozilla:beta repository. Since this version is a major update to the Firefox UI I'm seeking input from KDE users/developers which UI parts need adjustments when running under KDE. You probably know that our Firefox switches to a bit of different behaviour when running under KDE but with the new changes I'm not sure what's wrong now and what needs to be adapted still. So in case you are curious and want to give feedback, please feel free to install the beta package and let me know. Thanks, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 14 of April 2014 14:50:29 Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Hi,
I've just published the first Firefox 29 for openSUSE in the mozilla:beta repository. Since this version is a major update to the Firefox UI I'm seeking input from KDE users/developers which UI parts need adjustments when running under KDE.
You probably know that our Firefox switches to a bit of different behaviour when running under KDE but with the new changes I'm not sure what's wrong now and what needs to be adapted still.
So in case you are curious and want to give feedback, please feel free to install the beta package and let me know.
Hi Wolfgang, after short preliminary testing, at least the crucial parts of the KDE integration (namely filedialog and mimetype associations) seems to operate as with previous versions =) Cheers, Hrvoje
Thanks, Wolfgang
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Wolfgang Rosenauer <wolfgang@rosenauer.org> wrote:
I've just published the first Firefox 29 for openSUSE in the mozilla:beta repository. Since this version is a major update to the Firefox UI I'm seeking input from KDE users/developers which UI parts need adjustments when running under KDE.
You probably know that our Firefox switches to a bit of different behaviour when running under KDE but with the new changes I'm not sure what's wrong now and what needs to be adapted still.
So in case you are curious and want to give feedback, please feel free to install the beta package and let me know.
I just installed Firefox 28.99 from the Beta repo... and ran it through some basic tests. Everything is working well. The integration with the default KDE4.12 theme for openSUSE looks good. On initial view, I don't see any issues at all both visually and functionally. It's even faster startup/loading etc than previous versions. C. -- openSUSE 13.1 x86_64, KDE 4.12 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:50:29 +0200 Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Hi,
I've just published the first Firefox 29 for openSUSE in the mozilla:beta repository. Since this version is a major update to the Firefox UI I'm seeking input from KDE users/developers which UI parts need adjustments when running under KDE.
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So in case you are curious and want to give feedback, please feel free to install the beta package and let me know.
Hello Thank you for your package. When I down loaded and tried to install MozillaFirefox-28.99-6.1.x86_64.rpm I was unable to install to. (Please send the details below.) Any idea why or what I need to do? TIA # details Sabertooth:/home/james # uname -a Linux Sabertooth 3.11.10-7-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Feb 3 09:41:24 UTC 2014 (750023e) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Sabertooth:/home/james # zypper in ./MozillaFirefox-28.99-6.1.x86_64.rpm Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... Problem: nothing provides libsmime3.so(NSS_3.16)(64bit) needed by MozillaFirefox-28.99-6.1.x86_64 Solution 1: do not install MozillaFirefox-28.99-6.1.x86_64 Solution 2: break MozillaFirefox-28.99-6.1.x86_64 by ignoring some of its dependencies Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/c] (c): c Sabertooth:/home/james # zypper search --provides --match-exact libsmime3.so Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... S | Name | Summary | Type --+-------------------+---------------------------+-------- i | mozilla-nss | Network Security Services | package | mozilla-nss-32bit | Network Security Services | package The packages below currently work fine. Sabertooth:/home/james # rpm -qa | grep Mozilla MozillaThunderbird-23.99-44.16.x86_64 MozillaFirefox-28.0-17.1.x86_64 MozillaFirefox-branding-openSUSE-21-2.1.2.x86_64 Regards James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Hi James, Am 15.04.2014 19:58, schrieb James PEARSON:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:50:29 +0200 Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
When I down loaded and tried to install MozillaFirefox-28.99-6.1.x86_64.rpm I was unable to install to. (Please send the details below.)
Any idea why or what I need to do? TIA
Firefox 29 needs a more recent NSS package. Those are always in the mozilla repository and I forgot to mention that. In general mozilla:beta always needs to also have mozilla repo to provide newer dependencies. Sorry that I missed that.
The packages below currently work fine. Sabertooth:/home/james # rpm -qa | grep Mozilla MozillaThunderbird-23.99-44.16.x86_64
You should really update your Thunderbird. Version 24.4.0 is current and available through official updates or in the mozilla repo. Thanks, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 20:30:40 +0200 Wolfgang Rosenauer <wolfgang@rosenauer.org> wrote:
Hi James,
Am 15.04.2014 19:58, schrieb James PEARSON:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:50:29 +0200 Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
When I down loaded and tried to install MozillaFirefox-28.99-6.1.x86_64.rpm I was unable to install to. (Please send the details below.)
Any idea why or what I need to do? TIA
Firefox 29 needs a more recent NSS package. Those are always in the mozilla repository and I forgot to mention that. In general mozilla:beta always needs to also have mozilla repo to provide newer dependencies. Sorry that I missed that.
The packages below currently work fine. Sabertooth:/home/james # rpm -qa | grep Mozilla MozillaThunderbird-23.99-44.16.x86_64
Thank you very much for your rapid come back. I installed mozilla-nss-3.16-1.1.x86_64.rpm and then I installed MozillaFirefox-28.99-6.1.x86_64.rpm with no problems Sabertooth:/home/james # zypper in ./MozillaFirefox-28.99-6.1.x86_64.rpm Retrieving repository 'openSUSE-13.1-Packman' metadata ..................................................................................................................................................................................................................[done] Building repository 'openSUSE-13.1-Packman' cache .......................................................................................................................................................................................................................[done] Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... The following package is going to be upgraded: MozillaFirefox The following package is going to change vendor: MozillaFirefox openSUSE -> obs://build.opensuse.org/mozilla 1 package to upgrade, 1 to change vendor. Overall download size: 27.9 MiB. After the operation, additional 15.1 MiB will be used. Continue? [y/n/? shows all options] (y): Retrieving package MozillaFirefox-28.99-6.1.x86_64 (1/1), 27.9 MiB ( 75.1 MiB unpacked) Retrieving package MozillaFirefox-28.99-6.1.x86_64 (1/1), 27.9 MiB ( 75.1 MiB unpacked) (1/1) Installing: MozillaFirefox-28.99-6.1 ..............................................................................................................................................................................................................................[done] Additional rpm output: Unknown media type in type 'all/all' Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles' Unknown media type in type 'uri/mms' Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmst' Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmsu' Unknown media type in type 'uri/pnm' Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspt' Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspu' Note : I ended up installing both the x86_64 and the i585 version on 2 different PCs I had to add the menu bar in both cases. MozillaFirefox starts up very fast and so far I have no problems to report so far. I will report back here if there are any problems. Thanks again.
You should really update your Thunderbird. Version 24.4.0 is current and available through official updates or in the mozilla repo.
Actually I pulled this version of Thunderbird out of the same directory and installed it without checking the version. Double oops! Thank you for pointing this out to me. I have updated it as well. rpm -qa | grep Mozilla MozillaFirefox-28.99-6.1.x86_64 MozillaThunderbird-24.4.0-15.2.x86_64 MozillaFirefox-branding-openSUSE-21-2.1.2.x86_64 Regards James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
As I've no interest in uninstalling rv17, so I'm testing with Mozilla.org's 29b8 binary: 13.1/KDE3 http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ff29b8-d132os131k3adwaita.png http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ff29b8-d132os131k3raleigh.png 13.2/KDE4 http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ff29b8-d132os132k4adwaita.png http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/ff29b8-d132os132k4raleigh.png These have all had most Australis UI alterations reverted by the Classic Theme Restorer extension. The most usable among the 4 is KDE4/Raleigh. All others, plus Oxygen, have the too skinny GTK scrollbars. In none does it appear possible to replace the too small nav icons with icons big enough to be visually meaningful. Is there some other theme, branding or icon set that provides icons the same size as in rv17? Is there anything other than Raleigh that makes scrollbars same width as in QT apps like KDE4 does, or anything that does that in KDE3? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Wolfgang Rosenauer writes:
So in case you are curious and want to give feedback, please feel free to install the beta package and let me know.
I've installed it yesterday via the 1-click installer on Tumbleweed (32bit system) and it is working nicely so far. Didn't notice any rough edges. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Wavetables for the Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#BlofeldUserWavetables -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 14 April 2014 14:50:29 Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Hi,
I've just published the first Firefox 29 for openSUSE in the mozilla:beta repository. Since this version is a major update to the Firefox UI I'm seeking input from KDE users/developers which UI parts need adjustments when running under KDE.
You probably know that our Firefox switches to a bit of different behaviour when running under KDE but with the new changes I'm not sure what's wrong now and what needs to be adapted still.
So in case you are curious and want to give feedback, please feel free to install the beta package and let me know.
Firefox 29 (or maybe earlier version) have web notification api for social services. It uses non-system notification popups as opposed to other notifications (for example downloading finish). GNotifier addon [1] fixes it. [1] https://github.com/mkiol/GNotifier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Am 28.04.2014 22:37, schrieb Dmitry Roshchin:
On Monday 14 April 2014 14:50:29 Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Hi,
I've just published the first Firefox 29 for openSUSE in the mozilla:beta repository. Since this version is a major update to the Firefox UI I'm seeking input from KDE users/developers which UI parts need adjustments when running under KDE.
You probably know that our Firefox switches to a bit of different behaviour when running under KDE but with the new changes I'm not sure what's wrong now and what needs to be adapted still.
So in case you are curious and want to give feedback, please feel free to install the beta package and let me know.
Firefox 29 (or maybe earlier version) have web notification api for social services. It uses non-system notification popups as opposed to other notifications (for example downloading finish). GNotifier addon [1] fixes it.
yes, since web notifations are supported all support for native notifications was removed to achieve the required flexibility of the standard (AFAIK). This was done a few version ago (before or with 24.0 already). BTW, this is even worse for Thunderbird since the flexibility of web notifications are not really required there. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=858919 Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 23:24, Wolfgang Rosenauer <wolfgang@...> wrote:
Am 28.04.2014 22:37, schrieb Dmitry Roshchin:
On Monday 14 April 2014 14:50:29 Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote: <snip> Firefox 29 (or maybe earlier version) have web notification api for social services. It uses non-system notification popups as opposed to other notifications (for example downloading finish). GNotifier addon [1] fixes it.
yes, since web notifations are supported all support for native notifications was removed to achieve the required flexibility of the standard (AFAIK). This was done a few version ago (before or with 24.0 already). BTW, this is even worse for Thunderbird since the flexibility of web notifications are not really required there.
Food for thought: Would it make sense to 'bundle' the GNotifier addon with the OSS packages of Firefox / Thunderbird ? (Similar to "Feedback" addon in beta releases) I do not know anything about the maturity of the addon, let alone the feasability bundeling the addon. But better to think about the possiblity than just cry over spilled milk. - Yamaban. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, Am 28.04.2014 23:45, schrieb Yamaban:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 23:24, Wolfgang Rosenauer <wolfgang@...> wrote:
Am 28.04.2014 22:37, schrieb Dmitry Roshchin:
Firefox 29 (or maybe earlier version) have web notification api for social services. It uses non-system notification popups as opposed to other notifications (for example downloading finish). GNotifier addon [1] fixes it.
yes, since web notifations are supported all support for native notifications was removed to achieve the required flexibility of the standard (AFAIK). This was done a few version ago (before or with 24.0 already). BTW, this is even worse for Thunderbird since the flexibility of web notifications are not really required there.
Food for thought: Would it make sense to 'bundle' the GNotifier addon with the OSS packages of Firefox / Thunderbird ? (Similar to "Feedback" addon in beta releases)
I do not know anything about the maturity of the addon, let alone the feasability bundeling the addon.
But better to think about the possiblity than just cry over spilled milk.
I wouldn't bundle it directly into the Firefox/Thunderbird packages. There is no need to actually. mozilla:addons would be a good target for an RPM package for the addon and offer it to users. From there we could decide if it would be a Recommends for whatever package combination or not. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org
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