On Monday, 15 August 2016 17:12:21 BST Martin Schlander wrote:
Mandag den 15. august 2016 09:44:29 skrev Anton Aylward:
On 08/13/2016 07:23 AM, Martin Schlander wrote:
Lørdag den 13. august 2016 10:20:35 skrev ianseeks:
If you are a single user machine, its not an issue. If you have multiple users logged into the same machine the its a big issue if one user can shut the system down while other people are working.
And how does crippling kshutdown a little bit solve that issue?
It doesn't. The sysadmin on that system will need to take other steps regardless if kshutdown is slightly crippled or not.
I take I that you're now admitting that an regular/ordinary (aka 'non privileged') user in a multi-user environment should not be able to shut down the multi-user environment.
As for "crippling a little bit", I think you still fail to understand. Its not about 'crippling", and certainly not "a little bit". its about "completely removing the ability" for an ordinary user to shut down or kill another user's processes. AT ALL. IN ANY WAY WHAT SO EVER.
You seem to fail to understand that
1) Even with this crippling the ordinary user can still shut down the system using kshutdown if he starts kshutdown by running the kshutdown executable directly instead of using the .desktop file to start kshutdown. On systemsettings/login screen, you can configure who can shutdown the system via KDM i.e. Everyone, root or nobody. Does it check if KDM is configured to allow "everyone" to shutdown thereby allowing it to work when accessed directly?
2) Out of the box an ordinary user can shut down the system in dozens of different ways besides kshutdown. So what is gained by crippling the kshutdown package? Nothing.
If a sysadmin wants to prevent people from shutting down the system, he needs to achieve this in a different way than crippling of individual packages. It's not like kshutdown does any special hacks or circumvents other stuff to shut down the system, which might legitimize giving it special treatment.
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