And I'm hoping one or more of you lovely people can point me in a right direction. I need a simple video editing app... mainly to scrub bits of mom & dad making goofy faces at the kids to get them to act up when the "red light is on". I can't find one.. and the one I had that worked seems to have been up or downgraded and no longer wants to do anything but play the video. It will need to "play" windows files as well. ( legacy stuff. I was finally beginning to see where the pile was getting ever so slightly smaller. ) avi mainly, but I don't really know. Cinelarra is just too much program for such a minor tweak. ;) ( My pet peeve happened again this week. I'm shopping for a new computer to mainly do this video stuff.. to get it off my desk. before the cameras wont work and I can't even get the stuff to play. At least if I can get ti to a dvd that should hold the things I can't manage for perhaps another decade. :/ I have 27 applications on my multimedia menu, the main one that says "Media Editing" none of them will do that little thing where it just removes the stuff at the start, and sometimes the end.. "scrubbing" we used to call it.. Any suggestions will be welcome. Also, are we going to have to use KDE4 when Suse 11.2 (, 3?) is released? I still don't see most of the programs I use... and on one or two occasions , an online update has removed a working 3.5+ program and replaced it w/ a non working KDE4 version. Also, where do I go to put in my vote for programs to be updated &/or upgraded? I do appreciate the work you folks do. It's just it probably doesn't seem so when I'm whining because I can't get my work done.. So do consider yourselves thanked properly. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org