Am Montag, 4. Juli 2011, 20:05:37 schrieb Sven Burmeister:
Am Montag, 4. Juli 2011, 11:17:06 schrieb Anton Aylward:
todd rme said the following on 07/04/2011 11:01 AM:
I think you are missing my point. OK, so rekonq has addblock built in. WYSIWYG and that's it. With Firefox I can load _other_ blockers and ADDITIONAL plugins.
You can load additional blockers in rekonq as well, just click a link for a rule list and it is automatically installed. As was mentioned before, plugin support is already being implemented.
Once again I think you are missing my point. By 'additional blockers' I did NOT mean addition sources of rule lists.
I meant additional engines; alternative ad-blockers to adblock.
Yes adblock from Wladimir Palant is great, but some people may have reasons to use something else. I keep saying that we should have that kind of freedom of choice.
You do. This thread is about the default browser which should fulfil the default needs and not everybody's – because that's impossible. A browser should let you browse in the first place if that works there are only a few more things to expect Most people do not even know about noscript, noflash etc. Neither do they develop websites or anything else. They use webmail, facebook, google and that's it. After that it gets into detail and since everybody has the choice to still install/use firefox, there is no lack of choice but just a decision to use it as default or not.
BTW: before firefox became default in openSUSE's KDE pattern, konqueror was the default browser – worse engine, worse plug-in support etc. Those that liked it, used it because for them it had advantage x. Those that did not like it, used firefox because it had extension y.
This is just about a default browser and not which browser is the most versatile in all kinds of disciplines. Whether rekonq is the right choice – I do not know, but firefox is certainly not the right choice because one can use noscript or any of the stuff 99% of the users on the web do not use. Firefox does not even care about desktop integration other than gtk, which is why KDe people have to work on making it fit into plasma's notification system, use KDE's file-dialogues and standard-apps. That's important for the normal user - not having the choice of a dozen adblockers.
This is where I completely disagree. Firefox /is/ the right choice since everybody knows it quite well. Most important: If someone changed from a windows system or just has to use a linux/kde-system at work or whatsoever he or she knows already one of the most important programs.
Another really important point is, that with Firefox sync you can now easily share bookmarks, tabs, prefs or even passwords if you want. Especially with a lot of mobile devices this is a killer-feature. At least for me. In the old days I rarely used bookmarks since it was a pain in the ass to keep them synced. Maybe this is not a rekonq/konqueror, but more a kde-problem how to get "into the cloud".
Another thing are socks proxys. I open a ssh-socks proxy on a daily basis to get access to a secured network. Using rekonq for this? No way! Socks is just not working (just tried it with rekonq 0.7). I also would like to switch between different proxies like you can do it with "foxy proxy".
If you like it or not: Just offering a way to view web-pages is not enough nowadays.
I really like rekonq and I am trying it from now to then, but it is not an alternative to firefox.
regards Marco Does a default browser need to be fancy? If somebody finds themselves missing a feature, then they already know what it is (Firefox) and retrieve it. As for learning curve, Rekonq is relatively soft thanks to its simple UI. I say we push it in the next release as default on KDE only. That way we can accelerate development on it, and give users a more unified experience (for
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