On Tuesday 09 of September 2014 13:03:38 Wolfgang Bauer wrote:
Am Montag, 1. September 2014, 07:39:16 schrieb Luca Beltrame:
- KDE Frameworks 5 (the libraries) can happily coexist with the 4.x kdelibs; - Plasma 5 (the workspace) can *not* coexist with the 4.x workspace, meaning that there is a conflict (one overwrites the other), so rather than "should not", one should say "can't" - KF5-based applications: this is a case-by-case basis. Also, no KF5 based application has had a real release yet (most are snapshots offered in KDE:Unstable:Frameworks).
Hi all! Sorry for joining in late.
For anybody that's interested in trying out Plasma 5 on their existing openSUSE system without removing KDE4, I do maintain a repo on OBS that contains versions of the Plasma 5 packages that can be co-installed with KDE4.
See https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/499607-KDE5?p=2654365#post26543 65
In short: Add my repo in addition to the "official" 2 repos. For 13.1 that is http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/wolfi323:/branches:/KDE:/F rameworks5/openSUSE_13.1/ or for Factory http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/wolfi323:/branches:/KDE:/F rameworks5/openSUSE_Factory (you might want to give my repo a higher priority to be sure it gets preferred).
Then install plasma5-session from my repo. This should add a "Plasma 5" entry to your login screen, and pull in all packages that are needed to use Plasma 5. With my packages you can also keep using KDM as display/login manager, as it doesn't have to be uninstalled... ;)
I only keep packages that conflict with KDE4 in there, so it is absolutely necessary to have the other two repos as well. And I try to keep them as up-to-date as possible. (normally this should happen automatically, but sometimes there are conflicts I have to solve...)
As a bonus, I also added KF5 versions of selected KDE applications there, again they can be co-installed with their KDE4 versions. E.g.: kate/kwrite, konsole, gwenview, dolphin, k3b, ... Use YaST's View->Repositories to see what's available.
But please note, that those are only development snapshots from KDE:Unstable:Frameworks, that haven't been released yet. In my experience most of them work reliably, but there might be problems. (dolphin e.g. doesn't save the window size properly), although I haven't used _all_ of them extensively yet. This was actually a combo of bugs, one Qt, other KXmlGui - for first we have the patch in KDE:Qt5 and Factory soon, and KXmlGui one is fixed with 5.2.0 release =)
Cheers, Hrvoje
I plan to switch them to the versions from KDE:Frameworks5, as soon they are available there. The intention of this repo is to be as stable as possible. (I might do something similar for KDE:Unstable:Frameworks in the future though, if there's demand for it)
My packages should not influence the existing KDE4 installation whatsoever. But as has been mentioned in this thread already, Plasma 5 does do some changes (like fonts, widget style, color scheme, ...) to the KDE4 settings, so you might want to create a new user anyway for trying it. This is done on purpose (by upstream) to make KDE4 applications integrate better into a Plasma 5 desktop.
If you have question, feel free to ask here, or in that forum thread I mentioned. ;)
Kind Regards, Wolfgang
PS: My thanks go to the openSUSE KDE team for making this possible. :-) They did/do most of the work, not me. I only branched the existing packages on OBS and change them if necessary to avoid conflicts...