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Most of these changes could easily have been done several months earlier to ensure more testing, and a less hectic final couple of months of development (of course some couldn't have been done early, like e.g. HAL removal or oxygen-gtk inclusion).
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11.4 EVALUATION FOR TESTERS ========================== This is one of the areas where I'm able to contribute and I'm particularly embarrassed that I didn't test the DVD install in the RC phase, and therefore didn't notice that the DVD installs KNetworkManager instead of plasmoid- networkmanagement which is a horrible mess and support nightmare. And a bug which could probably easily have been fixed.
Another lesson learnt is that testing KDF is not always "enough". There have been a number of occurences where stuff is in KDF, but hasn't been submitted to openSUSE:Factory - like currently rekonq which is at 0.6.1 in o:F while KDF has had 0.7 for weeks and weeks.
So we, testers, should also do better.
Agreed. I'm planning on doing more testing this time around. BTW, how did KDF and Factory get out of sync? <snip>
So for 12.1 we should try to add new packages/features as early as possible, for maximum testing, and so that we can focus on critical bugs towards the end of the cycle. E.g. it seems like a no-brainer to me that we would want to include kamoso in 12.1, so why wait until the eve of version/feature freeze to submit it?
The Ubuntu devs are having the exact same discussion right now about systemd. I think the sooner the better, to let testers - well, test :) Squash bugs early and often. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-kde+help@opensuse.org