On Thursday 01 May 2014 07:20:21 Sam M wrote:
I think Baloo should be able to be removed entirely. If I wanted a system where things couldn't be removed I'd be running Windows. I have my opinions which I've already expressed, and I'm not going to invest a whole lot of time reiterating myself and writing numerous emails. If the KDE developers want Baloo to not be able to be removed, then so be it. But I don't think that telling somebody to code their own desktop is a very good argument. It definitely _is_ a bit of an argument, but when you don't understand somebody's use case and you can't 100% put yourself in their brain and thinking patterns, AND understand what is and isn't important to them, then it's 100% impossible to fully understand the differentiation between something that may be important to somebody else and something that is only a run-of-the-mill topic which carries little importance to you. The whole idea is to make the system adaptable, and since Linux and other Unix-like systems are frequently used by people who have more knowledge on average about computers and how computers work, foisted "features" aren't always going to be popular. Is the Linux system going to become one big web of libraries that are all tied together, and nothing can be removed? Is the suggestion going to be to compile everything from source for those people who want minimalism, are purests, and that want free choice?
Oh, do you hear yourself talking? You HAVE free choice. Unlike on windows you can compile all the KDE software yourself and not include baloo. And you can adjust the code to take it out. There isn't a single reasonable reason to not have baloo installed so there is really no reason for either the openSUSE packagers or the KDE developers to introduce extra complexity and potential for bugs for this non-feature that you seem to want so desperately.
As far as not testing, I had been using Windows more than Linux up until recently. Plus, I like XFCE in some regards, and it's not like KDE is the be-all and end-all in desktop environments. However, it's definitely a great system. Please at least offer a GUI switch for users to easily turn indexing off. Done! Add your home folder in the gui in systemsettings and indexing will turn itself off automatically.
How about a system notification that slides up and gives the user an option to begin indexing, postpone it, opt-out, or let them know what the hell is going on?
Bother the average user more with complicated questions they have no clue about? That seems like a genuinely bad idea. We prefer to spend time on finding and fixing issues - considering all the complaining in this thread, I bet many others would agree with that.
I want to see KDE get more modular, more customizable, less bloated, etc. Not a one size fits all methodology, where the developers decide that it's either black or white, and if they choose white, then white is _the_ color, and that's the end of the discussion.
More customizable = more bloated. Flexibility adds complexity, as I wrote in another email. You can't have simple + complex at the same time. We are always looking for the right balance, and that is hard. If you want simple and inflexible, use GNOME Shell & software. If you want more complicated but still reasonable, use Plasma & KDE software. If you want over engineered and incomplete, try out enlightenment. You can have whatever you want ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde+owner@opensuse.org