[opensuse-kde3] Where to Request KDE3 build for 15?
All, I did my monthly update to the latest master of FW5 (17.12) and Plasma (5.12) and it continues to be horrendous. I don't know why I keep hoping that desktop will become usable -- only to be repeatedly disappointed with each latest and greatest version. Simple things don't work, the pager takes up 1/4 of the taskbar, there is no way to tell it to use 2-row that is a simply mouse-click in KDE3, there is no way to control the damn clock and calendar font size leaving it looking like an awkward blob of text at the lower-right of the desktop, and on, and on, and on...... Which makes KDE3 and imperative for 15. Otherwise, it fluxbox, xfe, galculator and geany (not a bad combo at all, but not KDE3, and no tabbed konsole!) It is time to raise our collective voices to the packagers of KDE3 and say "We want to help! We will code for KDE3 on 15!" It is desperately needed, especially for older laptops that don't have 4G and 4cores (and for all the other reasons I've documented here and on the suse list) Let us know what stumbling blocks there are to the build, show us where the build service project is and we can help. Let's make this work for 15. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
Hi David, Am Montag, 12. Februar 2018 05:43:24 schrieb David C. Rankin:
All,
I did my monthly update to the latest master of FW5 (17.12) and Plasma (5.12) and it continues to be horrendous. I don't know why I keep hoping that desktop will become usable -- only to be repeatedly disappointed with each latest and greatest version. Simple things don't work,
full acknowledgement, kde3 is just great, let's keep it alive. Peter Mulller -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
Hi, On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 10:43:24PM -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:
I did my monthly update to the latest master of FW5 (17.12) and Plasma (5.12) and it continues to be horrendous. I don't know why I keep hoping that desktop will become usable -- only to be repeatedly disappointed with each latest and greatest version. Simple things don't work, the pager takes up 1/4 of the taskbar, there is no way to tell it to use 2-row that is a simply mouse-click in KDE3, there is no way to control the damn clock and calendar font size leaving it looking like an awkward blob of text at the lower-right of the desktop, and on, and on, and on......
Which makes KDE3 and imperative for 15. Otherwise, it fluxbox, xfe, galculator and geany (not a bad combo at all, but not KDE3, and no tabbed konsole!)
It is time to raise our collective voices to the packagers of KDE3 and say "We want to help! We will code for KDE3 on 15!" It is desperately needed, especially for older laptops that don't have 4G and 4cores (and for all the other reasons I've documented here and on the suse list)
Let us know what stumbling blocks there are to the build, show us where the build service project is and we can help. Let's make this work for 15.
I have enabled Leap 15.0 builds in the devel repo KDE:KDE3 last week, kdelibs3 does not build and therefore most of the other packages do not build. Due to long-time unfixed build failures in tumbleweed, KDE3 is being removed from TW and will not be added to Leap 15 proper. Don't panic, you can still use KDE3 if you add the buildservice project KDE:KDE3 directly. This IOW means the Leap 15 version will exist if it builds. The KDE3 codebase is old and showing its age, from a quick look the build failure is in some SSL related code that needs to be refreshed. And there's more, see the Monitor tab on the project page. I'm am moving from KDE3 to LXQt but will remain among the OBS project maintainers so if there are people fixing the failures I will review and accept the submit requests. In recent months I tried to fix random build failures, but this did not work. There were suggestions to take fixes from TDE, or use TDE itself. That's a hint for anybody who's willing to spend time on keeping KDE3 in openSUSE in a good shape. https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/KDE:KDE3 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
I have enabled Leap 15.0 builds in the devel repo KDE:KDE3 last week, kdelibs3 does not build and therefore most of the other packages do not build.
Does KDE3 konsole depend on kdelibs3? Thanks, Gianluca On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, David Sterba wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 10:43:24PM -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:
I did my monthly update to the latest master of FW5 (17.12) and Plasma (5.12) and it continues to be horrendous. I don't know why I keep hoping that desktop will become usable -- only to be repeatedly disappointed with each latest and greatest version. Simple things don't work, the pager takes up 1/4 of the taskbar, there is no way to tell it to use 2-row that is a simply mouse-click in KDE3, there is no way to control the damn clock and calendar font size leaving it looking like an awkward blob of text at the lower-right of the desktop, and on, and on, and on......
Which makes KDE3 and imperative for 15. Otherwise, it fluxbox, xfe, galculator and geany (not a bad combo at all, but not KDE3, and no tabbed konsole!)
It is time to raise our collective voices to the packagers of KDE3 and say "We want to help! We will code for KDE3 on 15!" It is desperately needed, especially for older laptops that don't have 4G and 4cores (and for all the other reasons I've documented here and on the suse list)
Let us know what stumbling blocks there are to the build, show us where the build service project is and we can help. Let's make this work for 15.
I have enabled Leap 15.0 builds in the devel repo KDE:KDE3 last week, kdelibs3 does not build and therefore most of the other packages do not build.
Due to long-time unfixed build failures in tumbleweed, KDE3 is being removed from TW and will not be added to Leap 15 proper. Don't panic, you can still use KDE3 if you add the buildservice project KDE:KDE3 directly. This IOW means the Leap 15 version will exist if it builds.
The KDE3 codebase is old and showing its age, from a quick look the build failure is in some SSL related code that needs to be refreshed. And there's more, see the Monitor tab on the project page.
I'm am moving from KDE3 to LXQt but will remain among the OBS project maintainers so if there are people fixing the failures I will review and accept the submit requests. In recent months I tried to fix random build failures, but this did not work. There were suggestions to take fixes from TDE, or use TDE itself. That's a hint for anybody who's willing to spend time on keeping KDE3 in openSUSE in a good shape.
https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/KDE:KDE3 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
----------------------------------------------------- Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca@u.washington.edu +1 (206) 685 4435 http://artemide.bioeng.washington.edu/ Research Assistant Professor at the Department of Bioengineering at the University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A. ----------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:11:25AM -0800, Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
I have enabled Leap 15.0 builds in the devel repo KDE:KDE3 last week, kdelibs3 does not build and therefore most of the other packages do not build.
Does KDE3 konsole depend on kdelibs3?
Yes. Konsole is in the package kdebase3 that depends on kdelibs3. If you need other similar queries the follwing may help you: "what package provides this binary": $ rpm -qf `which binaryname` packagename "what is the exact name of the package from which this one was built" $ rpm -qi packagename ... Source RPM : sourcepackage.src.rpm ... where sourcepackage is probably name of package in buildservice or at least there's a sourcepackage.spec -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/12/2018 06:53 AM, David Sterba wrote:
I have enabled Leap 15.0 builds in the devel repo KDE:KDE3 last week, kdelibs3 does not build and therefore most of the other packages do not build.
Due to long-time unfixed build failures in tumbleweed, KDE3 is being removed from TW and will not be added to Leap 15 proper. Don't panic, you can still use KDE3 if you add the buildservice project KDE:KDE3 directly. This IOW means the Leap 15 version will exist if it builds.
The KDE3 codebase is old and showing its age, from a quick look the build failure is in some SSL related code that needs to be refreshed. And there's more, see the Monitor tab on the project page.
I'm am moving from KDE3 to LXQt but will remain among the OBS project maintainers so if there are people fixing the failures I will review and accept the submit requests. In recent months I tried to fix random build failures, but this did not work. There were suggestions to take fixes from TDE, or use TDE itself. That's a hint for anybody who's willing to spend time on keeping KDE3 in openSUSE in a good shape.
Thank you, We were panicking. I would like to see it continue fully supported, but if not, then I'm more than happy to use a buildservice -- that will kind of screw over the Yast install process, but I guess it can be worked around. We should be able to pull the TDE patches for kdelibs build issues. We also have the ssl patch for TDE that went by on this list about 6 months ago. I'll look at the errors and see if I can figure them out. When I was building TDE for Arch, Arch was moving between gcc 4.x to 6, and there were not too many issues related directly to gcc. Thanks for all your hard work, it is much appreciated. We should really push to keep KDE3 official in 15 and in TW, if possible. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
Am Mittwoch, 14. Februar 2018 08:36:48 schrieb David C. Rankin:
On 02/12/2018 06:53 AM, David Sterba wrote:
Thanks for all your hard work, it is much appreciated. We should really push to keep KDE3 official in 15 and in TW, if possible.
This would be really great. Peter Mulller -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org
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