Hello Gianluca, Am Montag 24 März 2014 schrieb Gianluca Interlandi:

What exactly do you mean? Does the key combination: Shift+Ctrl+' work?

I set this to Windows-left. (Too often Shift+Ctrl+ turns back the direction of writing). This combination didn't work too. (Formerly it does; but I don't know at which time this behaviour took place). Helga -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org

Am Montag 24 März 2014 schrieb Gianluca Interlandi:

So, you can't make the Umlaute any more? I think that I'm still able to do it in 12.3 with Shift+Ctrl+" and then a, o or u.

Under 13.1 there is no way making Umlaute :(. I tried it out with a new user using a new KDE3 - no Umlaute. For example, using LXDE, Shift+Ctrl+ makes Umlaute for konsole (KDE4), abiword makes them, kwrite (KDE4) does, kwrite (KDE3) doesn't it. Just for me a problem. I'm using full KDE3 environment and won't to change this. Helga -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org

Am Montag 24 März 14 schrieb Helga Fischer:

.. Under 13.1 there is no way making Umlaute :(.

Just for me a problem. I'm using full KDE3 environment and won't to change this.

Me too. I write this on a openSUSE 13.1 with KMail 1.9.10 (KDE 3.5.10 "release 76" openSUSE) and have no Problem with äöüß and ÄÖÜ even in a Terminal, with LANG=de_DE.UTF-8. How can I test accents from Keyboard? I have not activated any Tastaturlayout in KDE3, language is Deutsch. This is from Kcharselect: àáâãåçÀÁÂÃÅÇ -- Herzliche Grüße! Rolf Muth Meine Adressen dürfen nicht für Werbung verwendet werden! S/MIME Zertifikat 0x25F0E92D9AE21AE6

Am Montag 24 März 2014 schrieb Gianluca Interlandi:

I have just tested it under 12.3 and it works. Have you tried to go to "Settings" -> "Encoding" -> "Western European ( iso 8859-15 )"?

No, I'm using utf8.

Also, what is your variable LANG set to?

LANG=de_DE.UTF-8

In my case, it is always set to "en_US". It works also if I set it to "de". In tcsh, you would set it with

setenv LANG de

In bash you would have to issue: export LANG=de

What happens when you try the Shift+Ctrl+ combination, no character is printed, or the character without the Umlaut,

The charakter without Umlaut. I'm not sure, if we mean the same. I wan't to write for example an e with ` oder ´ over it. Real Umlaute like ä, ö and so on are no problem.

or some weird character?

I get ´ e, not é (this one I copied from the web). I hope, it will be there, if you read this mail. Helga -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org

Hallo Gianluca Interlandi, Am Dienstag, 25. März 2014 21:28 schrieb Gianluca Interlandi:

Hi Rolf,

By "Me too" you mean that you also use full KDE3 environment, but the Umlaute are working for you? You have a German Tastaturlayout, so you can simply hit the keys on the keyboard with Umlaute. Yes to both, but I have not activated the Tastaturlayout in KDE3.

What about the use of "Ctrl+Shift" to compose extra characters? For example, what happens if you press the SHIFT key, keep it pressed and then at the same time press the Control key, then release both, then press the key with a single quote (apostrophy) ', let go and then press "e". It should print "é" if it works correctly.

No, the '-key does #, the e-key does an e, and then I have #e. The same without Shift+Ctrl, I think, because X uses an option like nodeadkeys. -- Herzliche Grüße! Rolf Muth Meine Adressen dürfen nicht für Werbung verwendet werden! S/MIME Zertifikat 0x25F0E92D9AE21AE6

To be more precise. What I'm trying to do is to activate the so called "compose key", which normally consists of pressing "Ctrl+Shift" at the same time, let go and then press for example ' and then e to get é, or " and u to get ü. It is not working at least in 13.2. Thanks, Gianluca On Fri, 6 Jul 2018, Gianluca Interlandi wrote:

Hi Helga,

Have you been able to solve the problem with typing accents and Umlaute in KDE3? I am using 13.2 and I cannot type accents or Umlaute using Ctrl+Shift. Did you find a workaround?

Thanks,

Gianluca

On Mon, 24 Mar 2014, Helga Fischer wrote:

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Hello List,

how can I get back the ability writing accents on my KDE3-desktop?

My System is openSUSE 13.1 with KDE3 (3.5.10 release 262) from inofficial Suse-repos. I'm using the keyboard layout with dead keys.

Under KDE4 all applications can work with accents. Under KDE3 there is no application writing accents.

Writing accents is active (kcontrol).

Any hints (or is this behaviour a bug)?.

Thanks, Helga

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Hi David, I installed kdeutils3-extra. Thanks. However, it is strange that it does not work in this version because I was able to use it by default up to version 12.3. I have a running version of 11.3 and the "Keyboard Shortcuts" are identical. I went to kcontrol->Regional&Accessibility->Keyboard Layout and turned on Xkb Options. There is an entry "key Position of Compose key" but it does not give me any options. Would it help to tweak /etc/sysconfig/keyboard or /etc/X11/xorg.conf? I would appreciate any advice. Thanks, Gianluca On Sat, 7 Jul 2018, David C. Rankin wrote:

On 07/06/2018 08:38 PM, Gianluca Interlandi wrote:

...

To be more precise. What I'm trying to do is to activate the so called "compose key", which normally consists of pressing "Ctrl+Shift" at the same time, let go and then press for example ' and then e to get é, or " and u to get ü. It is not working at least in 13.2.

Thanks,

     Gianluca

È É

In gtk apps in kde3 are

Press ctrl+shift+u (then let go and) Press c8 (or c9 for the next)

As I recall, this does not work by default in Qt applications because of the default keybinding in kcontrol->Regional&Accessibility->Keyboard Shortcuts.

You may try tweaking the config there, or looking at kcontrol->Regional&Accessibility->Keyboard Layout.

In the mean time, the easiest way is to simply use kcharselect which allows access to any character within the character set. It is provided in the kdeutils3-extra package.

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Hi David, The only conversion about this topic was the one I had four years ago with Helga and Rolf: https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde3/2014-03/msg00008.html No solution was posted there. I have also tried to follow the directions using setxkbmap as described in: https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/485420-12-3-KDE-US-keyboard-and-t... but it has no effect. I will keep trying. If anyone has any advice how to troubleshoot this, it would be appreciated. Thanks, Gianluca On Sat, 7 Jul 2018, David C. Rankin wrote:

On 07/07/2018 01:13 AM, Gianluca Interlandi wrote:

...

Hi David,

I installed kdeutils3-extra. Thanks. However, it is strange that it does not work in this version because I was able to use it by default up to version 12.3. I have a running version of 11.3 and the "Keyboard Shortcuts" are identical.

I went to kcontrol->Regional&Accessibility->Keyboard Layout and turned on Xkb Options. There is an entry "key Position of Compose key" but it does not give me any options.

Would it help to tweak /etc/sysconfig/keyboard or /etc/X11/xorg.conf?

I would appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

     Gianluca

Well,

I wish I could tell you the answer, but while I can recall discussions about it years ago, I don't recall the exact details (other than a few characters like '§', I don't use anything like that)

Do a search (or two) for something like "opensuse kde3 keycode entry". I suspect you will find what you are looking for.

I'll see if I can find any old notes on the subject.

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Another interesting fact is that if I login to localhost: ssh localhost and then start /opt/kde3/bin/konsole from the command line, then the compose with "Ctrl+Shift" works and can produce Umlaute and accents. It seems that something is interfering but when it is removed, for example by logging into the same system, then it works. I wished I could find out what it is that interferes. Gianluca On Mon, 9 Jul 2018, Gianluca Interlandi wrote:

I have just noticed something interesting. Using "Ctrl+Shift" as compose fails to work only in kconsole. However, it works at least in xterm, lxterminal and even in KDE4 konsole, all within KDE3. It also does not work in KDE3 kate. So, it seems to be a problem with KDE3 applications in 13.x.

I tried activating xkb options and selecting the compose key position, but it did not solve it. I wonder whether I can disable something that is conflicting with it.

Gianluca

On Mon, 9 Jul 2018, Gianluca Interlandi wrote:

...

Hi David,

The only conversion about this topic was the one I had four years ago with Helga and Rolf:

https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde3/2014-03/msg00008.html

No solution was posted there. I have also tried to follow the directions using setxkbmap as described in:

https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/485420-12-3-KDE-US-keyboard-and-t...

but it has no effect. I will keep trying. If anyone has any advice how to troubleshoot this, it would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Gianluca

On Sat, 7 Jul 2018, David C. Rankin wrote:

...

On 07/07/2018 01:13 AM, Gianluca Interlandi wrote:

...

Hi David,

I installed kdeutils3-extra. Thanks. However, it is strange that it does not work in this version because I was able to use it by default up to version 12.3. I have a running version of 11.3 and the "Keyboard Shortcuts" are identical.

I went to kcontrol->Regional&Accessibility->Keyboard Layout and turned on Xkb Options. There is an entry "key Position of Compose key" but it does not give me any options.

Would it help to tweak /etc/sysconfig/keyboard or /etc/X11/xorg.conf?

I would appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

     Gianluca

Well,

I wish I could tell you the answer, but while I can recall discussions about it years ago, I don't recall the exact details (other than a few characters like '§', I don't use anything like that)

Do a search (or two) for something like "opensuse kde3 keycode entry". I suspect you will find what you are looking for.

I'll see if I can find any old notes on the subject.

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Research Assistant Professor at the Department of Bioengineering at the University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A. -----------------------------------------------------

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