New subject: [opensuse-kde3] Missing writing accents

10 Jul 2018

      Hi Ray,

Thanks for your reply. I tried out some of your advive but it doesn't 
solve it. The problem is not with the X server because Compose works in 
non-KDE3 applications like xterm or GTK applications like gvim. It fails 
only with KDE3 applications like konsole or kate.

The problem lies with how KDE3 applications handle signals. As I wrote in 
my previous e-mail, if I `ssh localhost` and then start a new konsole (as 
if I was logging in remotely), then Compose works in that new konsole. 
This is a workaround for now, but I would like to understand what the 
difference is between a KDE3 app started directly and started after `ssh 
localhost`. It might have something to do with DCOP. What does DCOP do? If 
somebody with KDE3 development experience could please give me advice, it 
would be appreciated.

Thanks,

      Gianluca

On Tue, 10 Jul 2018, Ray Vine wrote:
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This might be an option for you - it works for me in KDE3, but I don't use SuSE, so
let's hope it will work on your build.
Assuming you're using a US keyboard layout, set this up in Control Center:
Layout: English (US)
Keyboard model: Generic 101-key PC
Layout variant: alt-intl
and you should see:
Command: setxkbmap -model pc101 -layout us -variant alt-intl
Then, for example, where AC11 is the apostrophe/doublequote key:
é [e acute] is AC11 then e
É [E acute] is AC11 then shift+e
ü [u umlaut] is shift+AC11 then u
Ü [U umlaut] is shift+AC11 then shift+u
The dead keys are shown in the /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/us file [from the
xkeyboard-config package on my system]:
    key <AC11> { [dead_acute, dead_diaeresis, apostrophe,        quotedbl ] };
and the order is
 key    shift+key    AltGr+key    AltGr+shift+key
Personally, I wouldn't like this and would rather have the dead keys on the AltGr
key, leaving the AC11 key for it's usual function - apostrophe/doublequote.
In which case, edit /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/us in the 'xkb_symbols "alt-intl"' section:
    key <AC11> { [ apostrophe,        quotedbl,   dead_acute, dead_diaeresis ] };
and then:
é [e acute] is AltGr+AC11 then e
É [E acute] is AltGr+AC11 then shift+e
ü [u umlaut] is AltGr+shift+AC11 then u
Ü [U umlaut] is AltGr+shift+AC11 then shift+u
You'll probably have to restart X for the changes to take affect.
Another option you might prefer ..
There's another section - xkb_symbols "intl" - in the 'us' symbols file with a
greater range of key mappings like:
    key <AD06> { [       y,          Y,    udiaeresis,       Udiaeresis ] };
where 'u umlaut' is just AltGr+y
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I think the best solution is setting up your own key mappings, perhaps using the Win
and/or menu keys:
    key <LWIN>
    key <RWIN>
    key <MENU> - the one between AltGr and Ctrl.
Assuming you're using a US keyboard layout, set this up in Control Center:
Layout: English (US)
Keyboard model: Generic 101-key PC
Layout variant: basic
and you should see:
Command: setxkbmap -model pc101 -layout us -variant basic
I haven't got RWIN key on my keyboard, so I've just tried LWIN and MENU keys.
In the first section [xkb_symbols "basic"] of the /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/us file, add
    key <LWIN> { [ dead_acute, dead_grave ] };
    key <MENU> { [ dead_diaeresis, dead_circumflex ] };
Then we get:
é [e acute] is LWIN then e
è [e grave] is shift+LWIN then e
ü [u umlaut] is MENU then u
û [u circumflex] is shift+MENU then u
Û [U circumflex] is shift+MENU then shift+u
Tested and works in konsole, kate, and LibreOffice.
If you need more accents, then add RWIN, or add AltGr to LWIN and MENU keys:
    key <LWIN> { [ dead_acute,  dead_grave,  dead_**5**,  dead_**6** ] };
    key <MENU> { [ dead_diaeresis, dead_circumflex, dead_**7**, dead_**8** ] };

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Subject: Re: [opensuse-kde3] Missing writing accents
Date: 7 July 2018 at 07:15:29
From: Gianluca Interlandi 

      I would appreciate any advice.
Thanks,
Gianluca

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