Currently openSUSE's KDE3 uses KDE Media Manager (an early version of KDE4's Phonon) instead of Arts. Arts is built in a separate package but seems to be buggy (Noatun does not work, does it?). As such I suggest to consider restoring Arts and removing KDEMM. To dcheck whether this would be beneficial I suggest to try the packages from KDE:KDE3:Trident, the variant of KDE3 developed by Serghei, which currently uses Arts. If there are no problems occuring, we can make the move and remove the Arts package from factory. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-kde3+owner@opensuse.org